[:: LAKERS 2014 THREAD | POLL: Who Should Coach Next Year? ::]

[darthska]

No, the Bulls would not be who they are if they had present roster coached by Del Harris. And Thibbs would not have the Bulls where they are if he were coaching a passion-less roster.

Yes, CP3 was a huge catalyst in changing the Clippers identity, but that roster coached by Mike Brown accomplishes even less than a division banner. It ain't ALL CP3, and sure enough, bring in a worthy coach, and they look far more polished.

Kobe/MJ championships without Phil: 0 (but it's the players that make a team into a championship.)

G'on ahead, mention injuries and subpar players. 

 

 

[senorroboto2k5]

 

[darthska]

Who the **** said Woodson is flourishing?

You need your reading glasses bro?


That false attempt of reading is the only response you had to my post?


I said why not give Woodson a little credit for Melo "flourishing"... Melo. The player. Who is scoring a lot of points but losing games Is supposedly "flourishing" hence P's post.


Then I followed that right up by pointing out the team is UNDERACHIEVING. The same team that made the 2ndround last year now is UNDERACHIEVING INCREDIBLY.


So my point was obviously, Melo might be flourishing at the 4 like MDA originally asked for, but what good is that doing the team?


My mind is blown.


How is any of that interpreted as me saying Woodson is flourishing? If anything what I was saying was the exact opposite.


If anything P's post makes MDA look worse. Melo choosing to do lately what MDA asked him to do and losing games to horrible teams doesn't exactly prove to be such a wonderful idea by MDA does it?

C'mon bro.

Double check your reading before you reply Sheesh.

That's classic CP, right there. 

And I sincerely HOPE you're not expecting ANYTHING along the lines of "Yeah, I see you mentioned Melo flourishing", because THAT... is MOST DEFINITELY... not happening. 

What's going to happen is "Oh... *insert L2B quote with the word Knicks* that's you mentioning the Knicks, no? *insert L2B quote w/ 'flourishing' in it*... and that's you saying the Knicks... up in New York, sometimes called the Knickerbockers... that's not you saying they're flourishing? That right there, that we can all read? That's not what that says? I'm tripping?"

One of the first ones to say "I said that? You suuuuuuure?" though. 

Actually, what happened was easy, I was on my phone and couldn't scroll up with ease to re-read.

I could clarify my point on the flourish comment, but it wouldn't do any good. Chalk it up as my bad and move on. If he wants to revisit, I can do that. No prob.

Wait... ... ...

Chalk it up as my bad and move on.

... ... ... what?!

my bad

Who are you, and what have you done w/ CP?

Chester, that you?

 

[teamlakers909]

The thing I loved about Phil Jackson was his ability to focus each player on their strength.

An example would be someone as insignificant as Kent Bazemore or say Jordan Hill.  If he was traded to the 09 Lakers - unlike other coaches who would just play him and let him run free...Phil would talk to him and tell him you are a good defender or rebounder, so thats all we need from you.  Just defend/rebound, dont think...just defend/rebound.

He did the same with Bynum early on when Pau was actually cooking.  All he wanted Bynum to do was defend, rebound and block shots.  Everything else was a bonus.

He got the most out of each player and really made them focus on what they are good at.  That to me a good coach and why I think so many role players flourished with Jackson as coach.

 

[CP1708]

Oh, it's me. Here, I will show you.....

So my point was obviously, Melo might be flourishing at the 4 like MDA originally asked for, but what good is that doing the team?

The team that Mike no longer coaches?

Maybe Woodson was able to connect the dots for Melo in a way that MDA couldn't. Why not give Woodson a little credit for Melo "flourishing" even though this same base of players from last season is incredibly underachieving.

So, what good is doing for the team, but give Woodson some credit for Melo's play?



See, these 2 posts were better off when I only had my phone to reply, and couldn't chop them up. Now that I can, what the hell is this drivel about?


Woodson got the most out of Melo, and nothing out of the other 11.

Mike got the most out of the 11, and couldn't reach Melo, who in turn is doing great at the very thing Mike wanted him to do.


But give WOODSON some credit?

 

[JD617]

Which is why his morning I said why rule out Petino based off of his horrible Celtics stint? Why not see what he could do with better pieces and a better situation? Sometimes coaches need a better fit, just like how sometimes players do.

If you think D'Antoni is stubborn and has a big ego, multiply that by 5 and you have Rick Pitino.

 

[pmatic]

 

[grandtheftbike]

at the poll

not suprised SVG is up there in votes since he loves stretch 4s

 

[kal-el-8]

Who the **** voted for George Karl?

 

[hybridsoldier23]

I voted for Coach K

 

[CP1708]

Who the **** voted for George Karl?

Not me

 

[licensed to ball]

Oh, it's me. Here, I will show you.....

So my point was obviously, Melo might be flourishing at the 4 like MDA originally asked for, but what good is that doing the team?

The team that Mike no longer coaches?

Maybe Woodson was able to connect the dots for Melo in a way that MDA couldn't. Why not give Woodson a little credit for Melo "flourishing" even though this same base of players from last season is incredibly underachieving.

So, what good is doing for the team, but give Woodson some credit for Melo's play?



See, these 2 posts were better off when I only had my phone to reply, and couldn't chop them up. Now that I can, what the hell is this drivel about?


Woodson got the most out of Melo, and nothing out of the other 11.

Mike got the most out of the 11, and couldn't reach Melo, who in turn is doing great at the very thing Mike wanted him to do.


But give WOODSON some credit?

You still don't get it do you.
It was all because you and P mentioned Melo is doing great at the 4 this year when it was MDA's original idea, yet Melo refused to listen to MDA.

Well I was CLEARLY saying that why not give Woodson credit for playing well at the 4.
He's the one who obviously got him to buy into the 4 spot. Maybe MDA just didn't explain it to him right.

THATS ALL I ASKED. Why not give Woodson some credit for "flourishing" at the 4.

Flourishing in quotation marks because P points out he's doing great at it, but what good is it doing the team? That's my point.

And then I went on to clearly say the team
Is underachieving incredibly, so obviously Woodson isn't "flourishing" at ****.

It was all about giving credit to MDA for askin Melo to play the 4. Why would we point that out when it's obviously not helping the team now that he's doing it?

Give Woodson credit for having Melo "flourish" individually, but he isn't flourishing as a coach because again.. The team is UNDERACHIEVING.

So no where am I asking you to give Mike Woodson the coach credit for his coaching.
All I asked is why would you give MDA the "credit" for Melo flourishing at the 4 when he couldn't get him to do it but Woodson did? And if anything it was stupid of both of them because obviously it does no good for the Knicks.

Sheesh.

 

[grandtheftbike]

respect

 

[kal-el-8]

 

[mrdieselfuel09]

Why isn't Bernie on that poll?


Wtf is wrong with y'all's.

 

[darthska]

Hubie Brown rollin' over i... (wait... he ain't die, did he?)...

 

[senorroboto2k5]

Kaman isn't playing tonight.

Los Angeles Lakers ‏@Lakers 2m

Kaman is enroute to Milwaukee, if he arrives in time he'll be available to play.

Where's Steve Clifford on this poll?

 

[CP1708]

Lakers Nation ‏@LakersNation 46s
"Both have great potential. I'd mentor either one" - Kobe Bryant's response on Twitter about Wiggins and Parker

Bout time you earn that money Kob.

 

[licensed to ball]

Does anyone believe the best player to come out of this draft class WONT be one of the top 5 guys everyone's drooling about?

 

[essential1]

Does anyone believe the best player to come out of this draft class WONT be one of the top 5 guys everyone's drooling about?

It's always possible.. But won't be known until it happens.


But at this point, right now? Absolutely not.

 

[CP1708]

Like a Kobe-Paul George situation?


Depends.

Who slots where, drops, etc. If Embiid somehow dropped to 6. Or Randle, etc.

As of now, without everyone having declared, I'd say the top 7-8 are going to be solid picks, of course someone(s) could bust based on the team that takes them, but I don't see much after 8 that will become an all NBA performer outside of the possible international player that could join the Spurs, or Thunder, etc and become a Parker/Divac/Manu type career.

 

[CP1708]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 15m
I've talked to 30 NBA players about the 2014 draft and Jabari Parker has A LOT of fans around the league. Many believe he'll be a star

 

[pmatic]

So Vonleh or Smart?

 

[teamlakers909]

Like a Kobe-Paul George situation?


Depends.

Who slots where, drops, etc. If Embiid somehow dropped to 6. Or Randle, etc.

As of now, without everyone having declared, I'd say the top 7-8 are going to be solid picks, of course someone(s) could bust based on the team that takes them, but I don't see much after 8 that will become an all NBA performer outside of the possible international player that could join the Spurs, or Thunder, etc and become a Parker/Divac/Manu type career.

one of the three is not like the other two.

 

[pmatic]

Brandon Knight is doing everything he can to help the Lakers lose.