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Prigioni Sidelined Indefinitely With Kidney Stones
Aug 03, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Pablo Prigioni has been sidelined from the Olympics by kidney stones.
"We've ruled out an infection and we confirmed he has little stones in his urinary tract," said Argentina team physician Dr. Diego Grippo. "He won't have to go through surgery as the stones will probably pass naturally. If that happens, he can play again (in the tournament)."
Prigioni averaged 8 points, 7 assists and 2.5 steals in 33 minutes over Argentina's first two Olympic games.
Via Frank Isola/New York Daily News
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z22UoKZOYz
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Aug 03, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Pablo Prigioni has been sidelined from the Olympics by kidney stones.
"We've ruled out an infection and we confirmed he has little stones in his urinary tract," said Argentina team physician Dr. Diego Grippo. "He won't have to go through surgery as the stones will probably pass naturally. If that happens, he can play again (in the tournament)."
Prigioni averaged 8 points, 7 assists and 2.5 steals in 33 minutes over Argentina's first two Olympic games.
Via Frank Isola/New York Daily News
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z22UoKZOYz
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Maybe he meant the retros that came out 4 years ago I dunno
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The retro Infared Air Max 90's that came out after 08' had terrible quality, had a funny shape and felt like you were wearing cardboard.
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This aint no curse for the Knicks. Sucks for Argentina thoughPrigioni Sidelined Indefinitely With Kidney Stones
Aug 03, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
Pablo Prigioni has been sidelined from the Olympics by kidney stones.
"We've ruled out an infection and we confirmed he has little stones in his urinary tract," said Argentina team physician Dr. Diego Grippo. "He won't have to go through surgery as the stones will probably pass naturally. If that happens, he can play again (in the tournament)."
Prigioni averaged 8 points, 7 assists and 2.5 steals in 33 minutes over Argentina's first two Olympic games.
Via Frank Isola/New York Daily News
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z22UoKZOYz
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It's kidney stones. He just has to pass them. This aint cirrhosis of the liver.When he comes to NY somebody just needs to get him on the right diet.
@ being taken out the game with kidney stones.
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did you seriously just shrug off kidney stones?
it's possibly themost painful thing a man can go through. I'd rather break my arm.
it's possibly themost painful thing a man can go through. I'd rather break my arm.
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I could've swore someone posted something about HOA Air MAx 90's
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Kenyon Martin > Birdman
Although, I think Birdman is more realistic. IDK how I feel about his on going court charges and investigation. Would that distract the team?
Although, I think Birdman is more realistic. IDK how I feel about his on going court charges and investigation. Would that distract the team?
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i dont want birdman and his charges anywhere near us and our locker room...
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Painful but not something that'll keep you out for months. That's pain for a few weeks, if that.
It has to do with the type of food/sugars you eat and what kind of stuff you drink. After a while they're not digested normally or sticks around in the urine tract and they roll up in to little hard pebbles (if you have too many or they're too big surgery is the solution) in your kidneys which cause a crazy amount of pain whenever you move and it's not like when you break something or sprain an ankle and the pain is constantly there with you, it's a shooting pain that comes out of nowhere when you're feeling good and get comfortable. It lasts for a long while and then goes away and you feel fine then comes out of nowhere again and lingers.
It gets worse when they get bigger and begin to obstruct the urinary tract (or something else starting with a u dealing from where you piss). Again if big it's most painful when you pass them.
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So, still no word on when individual game tickets go on sale?
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****** talkin bout kidney stones in a knick thread I'm cryin
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[h1]Carmelo Anthony shows a different side with Team USA[/h1]
[h3]By Jeff Zillgitt, USA TODAY[/h3]
Updated 20h 46m ago
LONDON – Since joining the New York Knicks in February 2011, forward Carmelo Anthony has been tagged with a series of unflattering labels and descriptions.
Critics have said he's: Selfish. A coach killer. Can't play in (then-coach) Mike D'Antoni's offense. Can't play with (forward)Amar'e Stoudemire. Can't play with (point guard) Jeremy Lin.
"I told him when he went to New York (in a much-publicized trade from the Denver Nuggets) if they don't win, he'll get the blame because that's the way it works in New York," said U.S.men's basketball assistant Jim Boeheim, who coached Anthony at Syracuse for one season in 2002-03.
"I don't know why he takes a beating about his game at any time," U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "Carmelo is one of the better international players. He's one of the best players, but it doesn't always translate to being that good internationally."
What gives? Is he selfish? Or is he a team player?
It creates a puzzling contradiction between what we think Anthony is on the basketball court and what his supporters think he is.
The truth might be somewhere in between, but not necessarily the middle.
Anthony understands the situation.
"Now that I'm in the spotlight a lot more being in New York City, you've got multiple opinions," Anthony told USA TODAY Sports. "You've got everybody saying something about this, about that. For me, just play ball.
"What I realized, first of all, is to keep my mouth shut and just play ball. At the end of the day, there's no way you can go back and forth with everybody's opinion. I realize that."
But he pinpoints exactly when the "Anthony is selfish" meme began.
"Let's be frank about it," he said. "When it comes to the Knicks, we're talking about one particular point in time. We're talking about the whole 'Linsanity' thing. That's when it started. That's when it started to escalate as far as people saying I was selfish."
Anthony suffered a right groin injury in early February and missed two weeks. Anthony's absence coincided with Lin's amazing, improbable rise from basketball nomad to global star.
Lin led the Knicks to an 8-1 record with Anthony out. Madison Square Garden was rocking, like it hadn't been in years, and the Knicks were relevant. They moved into the top eight in the Eastern Conference and into playoff contention.
Then Anthony returned, and so did the losing. The Knicks went 2-8, including six consecutive losses culminating in the dismissal of D'Antoni.
Anthony received plenty of blame, because it was believed his offensive style clashed with the way Lin and D'Antoni liked to run the offense. Anthony's game isn't suited for the pick-and-roll offense as much as it is suited for Anthony to operate on the wing in isolation or one-on-one in the low post.
"Lin came and we started winning games and then we started losing games, and they could only point to one thing, which is me, the leader of the team," Anthony said. "They're not going to point to Amar'e. They're not going to point to (guard) Iman Shumpert. They're going to point to me. I accept that. It doesn't bother me."
February seems like a long time ago. Lin is gone, signing with the Houston Rockets for a lucrative deal the Knicks decided not to match.
D'Antoni is without an NBA job, but he's at the Olympics as a U.S. assistant, as he was in 2008 in Beijing and in the 2010 FIBA World Championships. Anthony and D'Antoni talked for the first time since February at Team USA's training camp in Las Vegas in early July.
"It was fine," D'Antoni said of the meeting. "This is basketball. This is not life and death."
D'Antoni sees Anthony for the kind of player he is.
"I don't think it's selfish as much as it is you get into a certain mentality of how to play and you revert to what you do," D'Antoni said.
Which is to score. Which is why Boeheim doesn't agree with the criticism.
"There is this misconception of who he is and what he is," Boeheim said. "This is what he does. I don't think you should get criticized for doing what I, as a coach, want him to do, which is to score. It's wrongful criticism. I don't see trying to do your job as being selfish. If you have Carmelo Anthony, you want him to get the ball and you want him to score."
That scoring prowess has carried the USA through the first three Olympic games. Anthony delivered a record-setting performance in the USA's 156-73 destruction of Nigeria on Thursday.
He set a U.S. Olympic single-game scoring record with 37 points and set records for most three pointers made (10) and attempted (12) by a U.S. player in an Olympic game.
He did all of that in 14 minutes, 29 seconds, an impressive display of offensive efficiency. He scored 19 points in nine minutes in the first half, and he scored 18 in 3:38 in the third quarter — 6-for-6 from the field with five three-pointers, and a free throw — and 15 consecutive U.S. points.
Off the bench, he has been Team USA's best offensive player. He leads the team in scoring at 20.7 points a game. When you take out Kevin Durant and replace him with Anthony, it is a problem for any opponent.
Anthony embraces the international game, where he can play small forward, power forward and center on successive possessions.
"There are different opportunities out there because of the way we play and the way we space the court," Anthony said.
He acknowledged that he had work to do in the offseason for the Knicks. He has responded, losing 12 pounds since the season ended.
He came into Team USA's training camp in great shape and plans to use this experience as a springboard to a great 2012-13 season. After winning gold in the 2008 Olympics, Anthony led the Nuggets to the second-best record in the Western Conference and the conference finals.
"I wanted to prove a point this summer," Anthony said. "I can do and am willing to do whatever it takes, whether it's with the Knicks or Team USA.
"It couldn't have been better timing for me to play with Team USA this summer."
[h3]By Jeff Zillgitt, USA TODAY[/h3]
Updated 20h 46m ago
LONDON – Since joining the New York Knicks in February 2011, forward Carmelo Anthony has been tagged with a series of unflattering labels and descriptions.
By Eric Gay, AP
Team USA forward Carmelo Anthony had a huge game against Nigeria on Thursday, scoring 37 points in less than 15 minutes of playing time.
Critics have said he's: Selfish. A coach killer. Can't play in (then-coach) Mike D'Antoni's offense. Can't play with (forward)Amar'e Stoudemire. Can't play with (point guard) Jeremy Lin.
"I told him when he went to New York (in a much-publicized trade from the Denver Nuggets) if they don't win, he'll get the blame because that's the way it works in New York," said U.S.men's basketball assistant Jim Boeheim, who coached Anthony at Syracuse for one season in 2002-03.
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"I don't know why he takes a beating about his game at any time," U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "Carmelo is one of the better international players. He's one of the best players, but it doesn't always translate to being that good internationally."
What gives? Is he selfish? Or is he a team player?
It creates a puzzling contradiction between what we think Anthony is on the basketball court and what his supporters think he is.
The truth might be somewhere in between, but not necessarily the middle.
Anthony understands the situation.
"Now that I'm in the spotlight a lot more being in New York City, you've got multiple opinions," Anthony told USA TODAY Sports. "You've got everybody saying something about this, about that. For me, just play ball.
"What I realized, first of all, is to keep my mouth shut and just play ball. At the end of the day, there's no way you can go back and forth with everybody's opinion. I realize that."
But he pinpoints exactly when the "Anthony is selfish" meme began.
"Let's be frank about it," he said. "When it comes to the Knicks, we're talking about one particular point in time. We're talking about the whole 'Linsanity' thing. That's when it started. That's when it started to escalate as far as people saying I was selfish."
Anthony suffered a right groin injury in early February and missed two weeks. Anthony's absence coincided with Lin's amazing, improbable rise from basketball nomad to global star.
Lin led the Knicks to an 8-1 record with Anthony out. Madison Square Garden was rocking, like it hadn't been in years, and the Knicks were relevant. They moved into the top eight in the Eastern Conference and into playoff contention.
Then Anthony returned, and so did the losing. The Knicks went 2-8, including six consecutive losses culminating in the dismissal of D'Antoni.
Anthony received plenty of blame, because it was believed his offensive style clashed with the way Lin and D'Antoni liked to run the offense. Anthony's game isn't suited for the pick-and-roll offense as much as it is suited for Anthony to operate on the wing in isolation or one-on-one in the low post.
"Lin came and we started winning games and then we started losing games, and they could only point to one thing, which is me, the leader of the team," Anthony said. "They're not going to point to Amar'e. They're not going to point to (guard) Iman Shumpert. They're going to point to me. I accept that. It doesn't bother me."
February seems like a long time ago. Lin is gone, signing with the Houston Rockets for a lucrative deal the Knicks decided not to match.
D'Antoni is without an NBA job, but he's at the Olympics as a U.S. assistant, as he was in 2008 in Beijing and in the 2010 FIBA World Championships. Anthony and D'Antoni talked for the first time since February at Team USA's training camp in Las Vegas in early July.
"It was fine," D'Antoni said of the meeting. "This is basketball. This is not life and death."
D'Antoni sees Anthony for the kind of player he is.
"I don't think it's selfish as much as it is you get into a certain mentality of how to play and you revert to what you do," D'Antoni said.
Which is to score. Which is why Boeheim doesn't agree with the criticism.
"There is this misconception of who he is and what he is," Boeheim said. "This is what he does. I don't think you should get criticized for doing what I, as a coach, want him to do, which is to score. It's wrongful criticism. I don't see trying to do your job as being selfish. If you have Carmelo Anthony, you want him to get the ball and you want him to score."
That scoring prowess has carried the USA through the first three Olympic games. Anthony delivered a record-setting performance in the USA's 156-73 destruction of Nigeria on Thursday.
He set a U.S. Olympic single-game scoring record with 37 points and set records for most three pointers made (10) and attempted (12) by a U.S. player in an Olympic game.
He did all of that in 14 minutes, 29 seconds, an impressive display of offensive efficiency. He scored 19 points in nine minutes in the first half, and he scored 18 in 3:38 in the third quarter — 6-for-6 from the field with five three-pointers, and a free throw — and 15 consecutive U.S. points.
Off the bench, he has been Team USA's best offensive player. He leads the team in scoring at 20.7 points a game. When you take out Kevin Durant and replace him with Anthony, it is a problem for any opponent.
Anthony embraces the international game, where he can play small forward, power forward and center on successive possessions.
"There are different opportunities out there because of the way we play and the way we space the court," Anthony said.
He acknowledged that he had work to do in the offseason for the Knicks. He has responded, losing 12 pounds since the season ended.
He came into Team USA's training camp in great shape and plans to use this experience as a springboard to a great 2012-13 season. After winning gold in the 2008 Olympics, Anthony led the Nuggets to the second-best record in the Western Conference and the conference finals.
"I wanted to prove a point this summer," Anthony said. "I can do and am willing to do whatever it takes, whether it's with the Knicks or Team USA.
"It couldn't have been better timing for me to play with Team USA this summer."
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People have been calling melo selfish since the Denver days. Whether true or not. It isn't something that just started with Lin. There were Knicks fans screaming for him to pass the ball earlier this season during the losing streak. Before Lin even played
He needs to just stop commenting and play. Because nuthing he says is going to matter honestly. Winning cures everything
He needs to just stop commenting and play. Because nuthing he says is going to matter honestly. Winning cures everything
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Melo is steadily replacing Penny, Ivo and Ray Allen as my favorite baller.
Can't wait for the season to start back.
I'm sure he will be an MVP contender.
Can't wait for the season to start back.
I'm sure he will be an MVP contender.
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Nobody was calling Melo "selfish" in the prime Denver days. He was getting knocked for Denver's wild handling of the front office during the trade year. Melo was mum trade topic during that time and played hard every game. The the Knicks form a "team" without a decent point guard, so D'Antoni decides to play 2K and put Melo at point. How stupid is that? Everyone wants Melo to be LeBron. It's just not going to happen. But that doesn't mean he can't be just as effective overall if used the right way. He had a solid lead vs LeBron in head-to-head games. Obviously, Bron's talents' transplant helped change that, but so did MDA's awful coaching.
So how did the season end? Did Woodson not have the "team" on the same page regardless of who was in? Did Lin and Melo not begin to mesh under Woodson? Did Melo not continue winning after Lin went down?
They went into the playoffs strong, then lost 2 key players on consecutive nights against the eventual "champs." Not to say they would have won at full strength, but there was no chance after those injuries.
I say that to say that things will be fine. The Knicks have gotten some key vets and a great foundation for a defensive identity. They also got rid of Landry Fields and Toney Douglas at the same time. Melo has little to no choice but to show up in shape. Playoffs are a definite lock and I highly doubt there will be a 1st round exit this season. The only question marks are Camby's knees and Stoudemire overall.
