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Y'all gotta chill. The sky isn't falling yet.
let this thread die (NYK)
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Youre the voice of reason in this thread....Mark my words , dantoni will not be back, BD is gnna get this team firing on all cylinders once healthy any day now. 66 game season, NO TRAINING CAMP, ill take this season for a grain of salt. Amare will wake up, watch.
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I don't think it's fair to continuously blame the 2 main stars on the team every time the team plays like crap...How many teams in this league have stars and a good supporting cast?
Let's stop pretending like last year when the Mavs won the title, Dirk didn't have a bunch of competent players around him..Jason Terry is one of the best 6th men in the league..J Kidd played pretty effectively for a guy his age..Shawn Marion is a great role player n has been his entire career..Tyson Chandler had a career year..Deshawn Stevenson was locking down perimeter players and hit the 3 off the bench..JJ was a huge offensive spark.
Mark Cuban's blueprint was "surround 1 star with multiple effective role players" rather than plan the Knicks seem to have had last off-season which was "surround our 2 stars with whoever we can find because they can carry the team themselves"
Let's stop pretending like last year when the Mavs won the title, Dirk didn't have a bunch of competent players around him..Jason Terry is one of the best 6th men in the league..J Kidd played pretty effectively for a guy his age..Shawn Marion is a great role player n has been his entire career..Tyson Chandler had a career year..Deshawn Stevenson was locking down perimeter players and hit the 3 off the bench..JJ was a huge offensive spark.
Mark Cuban's blueprint was "surround 1 star with multiple effective role players" rather than plan the Knicks seem to have had last off-season which was "surround our 2 stars with whoever we can find because they can carry the team themselves"
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and that's Grunwald and Dolan's fault. The worst part about the Melo trade was that Eddy Curry wasn't really a part of it and that we traded for Chauncey Billups too.
Losing Fatboy Felton was losing the heart of this team. I mean we won bout every game he played good in and there was no reason past Denver hearing Dolan was on deck, seeing a chump and running his punk $@% for all he's got.
fyi, we still could've afforded Tyson with Felton and that S&T with Dallas and best yet, kept our amnesty.
That's two games in a row that we can't even compete in thanks to poor guard play.
I'll say this though...Shump's athleticism
...he was staying with Westbrook...we mighta found a monster.
Losing Fatboy Felton was losing the heart of this team. I mean we won bout every game he played good in and there was no reason past Denver hearing Dolan was on deck, seeing a chump and running his punk $@% for all he's got.
fyi, we still could've afforded Tyson with Felton and that S&T with Dallas and best yet, kept our amnesty.
That's two games in a row that we can't even compete in thanks to poor guard play.
I'll say this though...Shump's athleticism
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who is going to the game on monday? i'll be there, sec. 119
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Co-sign 100%!!!!
Dude doesn't even run out to put up a hand up after he blows a defensive assignment. He's not even trying defensively.
I can deal with him struggling offensively because he can still scrape together 25 points on a bad day but his defensive effort has nothing to do with us needing a PG.
That was a disgusting display from him yesterday and I was a huge Amar'e supporter.
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If you're not willing, Pringles is the easiest dude to ignore. He's a +#*$*. Can of white noise.
That's why his go to, "are you listening??" move is just benching dudes.
That's why his go to, "are you listening??" move is just benching dudes.
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Stat is really talented but like the saying goes hard work beat talent when talent does not work hard.
He knows he can put up 18 and 5 easily so he is comfortable with just that. In order to really be a beast and help this team he has to develop a damn post game.
He knows he can put up 18 and 5 easily so he is comfortable with just that. In order to really be a beast and help this team he has to develop a damn post game.
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If Baron's trying to come back late this month.... @Cleveland the 25th then @Miami the 27th ... he would make an entrance then
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WATCHING STAT PLAY D THIS YR HAS BEEN HORRID.... i thought his D was a lil better playing the 5...
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Listen to this man! Bottom line for us fans is this: Pringles aint going anywhere this year unless we have no shot at the playoffs (not happening, even at this rate we're 8th seed worthy)That means we simply must wait for BD to run this system. It DOESNT WORK without a PG. We currently dont have one PG on the entire active roster (I dare you to mention Bibby). So in essence this team is going through the motions. %#%*, its been going through the motions since we got Melo. But lets give pringles his legit PG that can run his 'system' and maybe we'll get that magic we had with Felton.As far as Amare goes, I didnt watch the last game, but it comes down to discipline with him. Shooting wild jumpers, not boxing out, not even knowing where the ball is on defense..thats all discipline. Son is a grown man making $100 mil, if he doesnt know what he needs to work on (it aint corner 3's my man) no coach will save him. He just needs to want it.Thats it I'm just gonna make my peace with pringles being forced down our throats (no ayo) and if a healthy BD cant at least lead to a balanced offense the fire dantoni chants better be in full throttle
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Since he played center last year he was matched up against tomato cans and dudes who can't hang with him speed wise. Now he's going against more athletic bigs who are strong and can score the basketball and he can't do $#@! to combat that. And no he will never develop a post game so to prevent yourself from getting upset when he launches three pointers and bricks mid range jumpers just make believe being a 6 11' Power Forward with diminishing athleticism developing a post game is not necessary. Instead he should spend the whole summer working on his "ball handling" and 3 point shot.
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I wish in the NBA dudes would get benched like in the NFL..In the NFL, even if you're a star WR or RB, if you're playing soft or acting like a diva, it's not out of the question to get benched..I remember when Reid benched McNabb in a game where the Eagles still had a chance to win, just to send him the message "If you're gonna play like a B----, then sit the hell down"...The rest of the year, dude played great..But in the NBA if a dude like STAT got benched as a way to send the message "You're playing like a woman," it becomes a big deal and more likely than not, that star player will cry about it...If I was Pringles, I wouldn't start STAT for a game or 2 just to show him he's not untouchable..Same goes for anyone else on the team that decides to go through those stretches of playing like they're not getting paid
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... People on this board went crazy when Dantoni benched Nate Robinson for shooting on his own basket....
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I mean yeah it'll send a message but it'll also assure losses. The reason NFL teams can do that is cuz there's like 60 players on each team. You can get by with benching a star player when guys have legit backups. Plus the NBA is more of an individual sport so if a face of the franchise gets benched for "playing like a woman" there'll be so much media scrutiny the pressure would be crazy.
Besides that Pringles is not strict enough and Dolan isn't hands off enough to just let that happen. Plus I only think Pop would be okay with going through that type of controversy and stick to it when it only has to do with the player's play on the court and not extra shh.
Besides that Pringles is not strict enough and Dolan isn't hands off enough to just let that happen. Plus I only think Pop would be okay with going through that type of controversy and stick to it when it only has to do with the player's play on the court and not extra shh.
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I watched the game last night, I honestly was so disappointed that I didn't watch the 4th quarter. No reason to be gettin smacked by 30 plus points when one main player is injured and there is another left.
Stat is my dude and I still vouch for him being here. But he really gotta stop , take a breath, and calm down. There have been TOO many turnovers, too much driving to the rim to get blocked. This man seriously faces up and tries to do dribble penetration and gets cut off and doesn't try to dish it off. He just tries to force a bad shot. I don't know what it is. Ray Felton really made a big difference.
Stat wasn't even getting all those foolish turnovers and getting muffed everytime he went to the rack while Felton was here.
So it wasn't only @ PG and picking and rolling and dishing to Stat properly, its something mental. Even the things Raymond Felton had nothing to do with, Stat is messing up on.
I really cant even agree with some of you guys when you say "Its because he's playing PF and he's meeting up with stronger and faster players" If that was the case, what was happening his last season in Phx? Was he playing PF or C? If im wrong correct me, because I really can't remember.
I am NOT blaming all the team's problem's on Amare Stoudemire. But he needs to get his head back in the game. I can't agree with the fact that he's not working hard... I think he's working hard but not using his brain. I wont question his work ethic on or off the court. But it seems like he's a deer in headlights when its game time.....
About Mike D'antoni, I won't be a broken record. Dude reallly needs to step his coaching game up for as long as he's here. We can't afford to waste these guy's PRIME years losing like this. I'm hoping Baron Davis can make him look like a genius when he comes to play because it seems like its the PG's that make Dantoni look good ( if we haven't figured that out already)
I hope tomorrow's matinee goes well because I am tired of being smacked around by any team when we have the talent that we do.
I will make sure I rob carmelo of his ring.
Stat is my dude and I still vouch for him being here. But he really gotta stop , take a breath, and calm down. There have been TOO many turnovers, too much driving to the rim to get blocked. This man seriously faces up and tries to do dribble penetration and gets cut off and doesn't try to dish it off. He just tries to force a bad shot. I don't know what it is. Ray Felton really made a big difference.
Stat wasn't even getting all those foolish turnovers and getting muffed everytime he went to the rack while Felton was here.
So it wasn't only @ PG and picking and rolling and dishing to Stat properly, its something mental. Even the things Raymond Felton had nothing to do with, Stat is messing up on.
I really cant even agree with some of you guys when you say "Its because he's playing PF and he's meeting up with stronger and faster players" If that was the case, what was happening his last season in Phx? Was he playing PF or C? If im wrong correct me, because I really can't remember.
I am NOT blaming all the team's problem's on Amare Stoudemire. But he needs to get his head back in the game. I can't agree with the fact that he's not working hard... I think he's working hard but not using his brain. I wont question his work ethic on or off the court. But it seems like he's a deer in headlights when its game time.....
About Mike D'antoni, I won't be a broken record. Dude reallly needs to step his coaching game up for as long as he's here. We can't afford to waste these guy's PRIME years losing like this. I'm hoping Baron Davis can make him look like a genius when he comes to play because it seems like its the PG's that make Dantoni look good ( if we haven't figured that out already)
I hope tomorrow's matinee goes well because I am tired of being smacked around by any team when we have the talent that we do.
I will make sure I rob carmelo of his ring.
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He was way more athletic two years ago. I honestly believe the way Dantoni ran him into the ground last season and him injuring his back has sped up his decline and made him just say #@!$ it and turn to just being a perimeter player.
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aint been right since his last checkup. shoulda strapped up.
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to much truth being spoken
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that pic is from last year tho lol
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Well when I said don't start him I just meant don't put him in the starting line-up but he would come off the bench a few minutes into the game..It wouldn't really have an effect on the game because he would still get the same amount of minutes, just set up differently than usual. It would definitely effect his ego and have him realize he's here to win games, not to make $100mil
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Man, seeing Rubio cookin' right now saddens me...
That 09' draft saddens me, period.
We couldn't trade up for Rubio, got robbed of Steph Curry, robbed OURSELVES of Jennings or Lawson...and have nothing to show for it...
Not even Jordan Hill.
That 09' draft saddens me, period.
We couldn't trade up for Rubio, got robbed of Steph Curry, robbed OURSELVES of Jennings or Lawson...and have nothing to show for it...
Not even Jordan Hill.
