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Magic Johnson's son goes public with boyfriend
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If result A has a higher probability of happening than result B, then you are EXPECTING result A to happen whether you admit it or not.
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you elect people who you think will represent your values.
The goal of a party is to get elected.
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You still didn't answer the question. Would YOU (Sir Charles) be happy if your son dressed in women's clothing?? A YES or NO reply will suffice.
It's not merely about dropping out of school though. It's about your son being HAPPY. If your son is happy with dropping out of school, and you said earlier that your son being happy is what makes YOU happy, why wouldn't you (Sir Charles) be happy that your son is happy by dropping out of school?? Isn't it all about being happy??
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So Lobo and SirCharles, what is "acceptable" for a parent to not initially be happy about when they are given news from their kids? Since we feel the need to label initial emotions as right/wrong.
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In the terms I was using; Education levels under high school graduates, or being gay.
One is required to know for most positions in life, the latter can be a little more flexible.
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My man, we are just going to have to agree to disagree here. No harm in that. Like I said, using math to guess is different than having an expectation. The word "expectation" implies more than "mathematical probability." One is emotional, one isn't. Being shocked that your son is gay due to the mathematical improbability is different than being shocked about him being gay.
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it's like the Taliban lurks on NT . . .
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Things that affect the child adversely. Homosexuality isn't one of them.
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That would be a list too long and complicated.
This is a subject where it's agree or not. And you don't.
That probably won't change,
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So being a minority of any kind can't (hell probably) won't affect the child in a negative manner?
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hell have you guys been talking about for 43 pages?
first reply was ROUGH :x
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first reply was ROUGH :x
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Damn this thread blew up
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But it's one they have no control over, DC. I can't be disappointed in them for that. I'd be sad for the difficulties they would inevitably encounter. I can't be disappointed that their sexual orientation is different than mine.
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hell have you guys been talking about for 43 pages?
first reply was ROUGH :x
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With Ninjahood's departure, it's actually been a pretty good discussion. If nothing else, I've learned more about the differences in parenting styles.
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^ But we honestly haven't spoken of parenting STYLES. All we have discussed were inner emotions upon receiving the news that your son was gay. Nothing further Lobo.
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Exactly, and that's the point. As a parent, you should (key word SHOULD) already have a thought process or a set of ideas on what as a parent would make you happy independent from what your son or child has from what makes them happy. From some of the statements in here, some people are or would more or less just go with the flow of whatever versus being a parent.This.
Some NTers are going to be amazing parents. Might as well have the name "Hans solo " on reserve for your future child.
You're supposed to be their Parent, not their "Friend".
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I thought my answer of being annoyed with people who seek attention would provide an answer for you. If it didn't, then I will tell you now. No, I would not be happy if my son dressed in women's clothing. Because people who act in ways that beg for attention annoys me, period. Son or not.
There are certain things that you have to fix, and certain things that you shouldn't get upset about. It's not all about being happy.
If my son decides to drop out of school he is going to end up homeless, that is a huge set back in his life, and mine since he will probably be in my home until I die. Begging for attention by dressing like a woman would not make me happy because it would annoy the crap out of me. Now if my son told me he was gay, and happy with his life I would be happy with his choice. End of story.
You are over simplifying what I am telling you, you are arguing just to argue.
Cut it out.
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Well, if we go into my field. There are three.
Authoritarian - Strong, rules only parenting
Authoritative - Sets rules, and can explain why they are there
Permisive - No rules, go with the flow.
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God damm 29 pages of nothing
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Since when was gay men dressing like women "begging for attention"?
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It's not a contradiction, there are certain things that are about it, and there are a lot of things that are irrelevant.^^
If we look at individuals, then that is not always that case. But, who has the time to ask "hey are you doing that for attention or do you really like that?"
If you catch the drift
Often, in my opinion, when one dresses in a flashy out of the norm way it is going to be for attention.
If we look at individuals, then that is not always that case. But, who has the time to ask "hey are you doing that for attention or do you really like that?"
If you catch the drift
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hell have you guys been talking about for 43 pages?
first reply was ROUGH :x
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With Ninjahood's departure, it's actually been a pretty good discussion. If nothing else, I've learned more about the differences in parenting styles.
I was wondering why he wasn't on the last few pages making spectacular analogies.
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Maybe 'styles' isn't the right word. I've learned that some parent's happiness would be adversely affected by their child's happiness.
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Don't see the correlation between your son telling you he is gay and your son telling you he drops out of school
Sexual preference is definitely less important than education
Sexual preference is definitely less important than education
