Miley Cyrus Vol. Trying to hard!

If you don't see it as a modern day minstrel then to each his own. Jody Rosen's article was on point and there was an article from Jezebel that was saying the same thing but in greater detail. This is the same person who had no idea who Jay-Z was when Party in the USA came out, but now she's into hood music and popping her non-existent *** everywhere she goes? Its not a coincidence that she's taken upon the ratchet persona (associated with women of color) to rebel against her former image. Guys like Mike Will aren't helping by standing by while she does this. Hip hop and black culture itself is so accepting that at times they can't realize when the jig is going on. For those who want it dumbed down, its like the white woman in college who has a curiosity about sex with black men. She won't be seen with you in public and will delete every picture she has with you in it on social networks, but won't hesitate to call you at 2-3 in the morning to see if she can get some pipe.
I'm a little bit older, and when I was in high school racism and social segregation was still overt. Britney Spears, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys etc, they were all making "white people" music. When I would chill with white people I knew and they would hide their CDs and throw on DMX, Ja Rule or Nelly to make me feel comfortable. 

Now when I look at A$AP Rocky and Miley Cyrus I see no difference in color, and I believe when I watched the award show this weekend it was the first time I think ever race never crossed mind. There's probably some NT'ers old enough to remember the awards back when someone black would perform and the white people would be awkward during the performance. Then when white people performed it was the same way.

I just seen an award show where Kelly Clarkston or a country singer I believed said to a black artist "I know who you are and never heard your music but I'd love to work with you".

My son was in love with Hannah Montana, he watched the show just cause he had a crush on Miley Cyrus, he saw my wife watching the award show and said "I don't like Miley anymore, she acts different, she's a grown up now with a funny haircut" 

I saw that as him perceiving it to be her choice to dress how she wants and act how she wants because that's what grown ups do. He has a choice to change the channel, not listen to her music or buy her merchandise. That's not the Miley he supports. He bought the son "Party In the USA" though and that's how he found out who Jay-Z is. 

And it's funny because I don't support Jay-Z anymore after Open Letter and Magna Carta. 

What is Jay-Z? He's 24 years younger than Miley Cyrus and raps about the ghetto but he's doing art shows for rich white people, says he's a role model for black youth but his servility for his white peers show when he makes songs with lyrics like "My best white mate Chris", or "N's in Paris" and lets Gwyneth Paltrow sings along. He disses Harry Belafonte a guy who put his life and financial freedom on the line for Civil Rights but dedicated a song to a white male he didn't know was homosexual at the time who's 8 years older than him "Tom Ford". But he's revered as a "black leader" because he rapped for Obama.

I said this in another thread, black leadership is scarce and for reason like this black people are stagnant in terms of progress and identity. Macklemore, Mac Miller, Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake, Justin Beiber, Action Bronson and tons of other whites are redefining urban culture in many ways, and people are ridiculing them from capitalizing off of fashion choices and anti-social demeanor that were once associated with racial profiling, which as a youth I was frequently a victim of. 

I see their choices as a glimmer of true diversity, especially when Miley's father approves of her music considering who his fan-base is. He's probably losing fans as we speak for his daughter's behavior. And that's a good thing oddly enough.

Let them cook, if anything, this guy Rosen and the Jezebel article offends me more that they feel that behavior is acceptable for blacks even though it's viewed as counter productive and anti-social. But when whites do it, it's cringe worthy and something to gawk at or not "normal". It sets off alarms with me that we're not living in an equal society and white ethnocentrism still exists. 







 
 
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I just saw that this was discussed on the news, is it really that serious? It cant be this serious. Overreacting at its finest IMO. Apparently it is that serious, I expected to see nothing but jokes in here, but people are wylin for respect with walls of text about who knows what.
 
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I just saw that this was discussed on the news, is it really that serious? It cant be this serious. Overreacting at its finest IMO

no. but it's something else to strong enough to captivate ppls attention amidst ww3 poppin off
 
I don't see anyone complaining about Darius Rucker being a country musician. I have a feeling I may be one of the few NTers who listens to country music though
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I remember Kelly Clarkson saying that, but not sure to who it was. Major facepalm moment
 
I don't see anyone complaining about Darius Rucker being a country musician. I have a feeling I may be one of the few NTers who listens to country music though
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Exactly, Hootie but then you have Prince, Eagle Eye Cherry (middle school 
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), Gavin Koppell, Leeroy Thornhill, Carl Cox and many more. Blacks accused them of wanting to be "white" and accused me of "selling out" because I owned their music. 

These types of divides are what marginalizes blacks and keeps us from assimilating into the fabric of the American quilt. We'll always standout and not in a good way because were reinforcing stereotypes and prototypes for others to use when they encounter us.

Miley probably grew up stereotyped and which is why she acts out, not only for her but for her father's image. I think what's she's doing is great if that's her reasoning. Shock value or not, she's done more for racial barriers than Eminem ever could. 

Eminem actually exploited poor white America, and stereotyped poor white teens from trailer parks as degenerate, rappers and having a chip on their shoulder...

8mile was a" black guilt" film ...
 
I don't see anyone complaining about Darius Rucker being a country musician. I have a feeling I may be one of the few NTers who listens to country music though :lol

Country music doesn't have a cultural ****ing component attached to it.

We spoke about black's not having culture in another thread and accepting whatever is currently bestowed upon them.

So the irony is too dam high when Whootie is being marginalized for making country music, something black people originally contributed to, yet these white folks writing apologist articles for Miley Cyrus stealing black culture which in this instance obviously is nothing else but slutty pimpin hose and scantily clad drugged up women who deserve no respect.

These people really want black people to get up and defend this negative perception like it's our only cultural contribution to society.
 
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I thought this thread was for kicks n giggles and memes about the vmas .. not justifyin americas cultural beliefs and racism
 
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Darius Rucker grew up country; he's not trying to be country.

Eminem grew up struggling and grew up around hip-hop; he doesn't have to 'try' to relate.

Miley? She's trying to be what we're seeing.

Big difference; HUGE difference. I'm not knocking her. Just saying there's a difference in Darius doing something he grew up on and Eminem doing something he grew up on... and this chick making an effort to be something entirely different.

But this isn't the first example of a cute little daddy's girl turning into a freak-nasty freak... and it damn well won't be the last.
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Shes what 21 now yall can chill on all the rebelling against her parents crap, its all for the fame.

Madonna wasnt poppin like that until she got some cone ******* and humped a mtv stage. Britney had fallen off she had to make out with The old hag Madonna to get her spark back, Xtina, Rhianna, Nicki, Gaga they all did/do the shock and awe **** to keep their names in the public to keep that buzz going... nothing deeper or more sinister behind it :rolleyes

Pretty much.
 
But come on that was some pure Al Jolson stuff she pulled and I definately not letting Robin Thicke off the hook with this.. This chick has done every stereotype of not only black culture but hip hop in general... Em even address that he wouldn't have gone diamond if he had "brown eyes and dark skin"...
It's not even about being sensitive or owning as some say what is black culture but as soon as white America catches on to something it's acceptable but when a black or brown person does it, it's degrading.... C'mon Son, that whole show was indictive of how we don't even have good, true r and b acts that are black anymore. Also you telling me that clown Macklemore(Vanilla ice 2013) is conscious and deserved an award for that trash and thrift shop...but we accept it and ride for when this type of music and think its harmless... Look how Justin threw Janet under the bus but somehow his career flourishes and that fine sista never had a career since... Sorry but the VMAS was straight basura and a complete Minstrel"bamboozled" show...
Flame suit equipped to War Machine with homing missiles( yea I ride for the black comic heroes, lol)
Pretty much.

How do you know she's like that off camera? Do you hang out with her? Has she invited you to her house? Like Bieber going through his bad boy image to get rid of his lily white image, everything is planned from something as simple as going to a basketball game to a night out on the town.

Rebelling doesn't mean that she's going against her parents. She can do whatever she wants as an adult. She's rebelling against the image of Hannah Montana and Disney and in doing so is using negative black stereotypes to do so. As I said, she admitted to not knowing who Jay-Z was a few years ago but now she's a connoisseur of black culture? **** out of here. I'm not falling for the jig. More insulting than anything. Its not cute at all.
 
Darius Rucker grew up country; he's not trying to be country.

Eminem grew up struggling and grew up around hip-hop; he doesn't have to 'try' to relate.

Miley? She's trying to be what we're seeing.

Big difference; HUGE difference. I'm not knocking her. Just saying there's a difference in Darius doing something he grew up on and Eminem doing something he grew up on... and this chick making an effort to be something entirely different.

But this isn't the first example of a cute little daddy's girl turning into a freak-nasty freak... and it damn well won't be the last.
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That performance was not a minstrel show, because Miley is that way on or off camera. Those who partook in Minstrel shows were doing it in a setting for laughs, as an entertainment piece that lampooned those tangled in the web of slavery and the after effects of being conditioned as a slave. 

So once a person finished their role of performing in black face, they reverted back to being a white person not the least affected by black codes, Jim Crow, segregation, etc. 

That's like the book 40 million dollar slaves, when the guy tried to paint a picture of powerless black athletes, but when he compared millionaire athletes to actual slaves it almost becomes a moot point in my eyes. 

The comparison is not valid. 
I don't buy that she is like that outside of this performance and Eminem is the exception to the rule just like Paul Wall... Those dudes really lived around black people and adopted the culture and when they perform I see the passion they truly have for hip hop... Miley is clearly doing this just like Madonna did with the " Like a prayer" video... Look I am not sensitive but this was out right buffoonery everything from Miley to Justin( he is talented but this dude, something about him doesn't sit right with me.) All I am saying is that these " lily white kids" that had no struggle are playing dress up and acting this way to get attention and paper... For god sake they blame Lil Twist for Bieber acting like an ***, hip hop culture has always been anti-establishment but I can't dig these types of acts because guaranteed they are laughing at us... I mean I use to love seeing girls twerk but now that ish is lame and accepted because a white face has been put on it.. We can agree to disagree but the whole awards show was a Minstrel Show, and MTV damn sure made it clear that hip hop culture and black culture is nothing but a joke.. Even the whole situation with ASAP and Jason Collins was some bs....At least Kanye tried with the portrait of the hanging tree( I not defending his child like ways and personal life) but when I saw that it did leave chills down my spine to see him do that at this gentrified Brooklyn comedy show.
 
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