MLB Trade Deadline thread - Everybody to LAD; Contreras to COL; Kazmir to ANA; Wagner to BOS.

I wouldn't do it if I didn't want to. I guess I like baseball or something.

Pitchers Ryan Mattheus and Robinson Fabian go to Washington in the Beimel trade.
Local radio reports the last deal the Rangers shot down was Holland and Smoak for Halladay and cash...
Just like that? Three players?
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Originally Posted by dland24

Id love to know why you yankee fans think peavy wont do well in the AL.
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It's not just yankee fans.

Just think about it. IMO, he was so good in the NL cause he faced weaker lineups. especially within his division (before this year and last year). remember, hehad initially stated that he wanted to pitch in the NL. That should say alot about him.

And once he starts facing lineups that are stacked, his ERA will blow up.

You'll see. Screen this page if you want for next year.
 
Peavy only accepted cause there was no guarentee that his 2 preffered teams (Dodgers/Cubs) were gonna make a move on him in the off season.

What a punk.
 
Yeah, after the Lee deal, it pretty much solidified that I wouldn't like a trade that featured two of the Big Four in a package...

Teams don't do trade two Top 25 prospects in packages for one player, especially teams in the Rangers' position...

Rumor is the Jays kicked off forays discussions at Holland, Smoak, Tommy Hunter, Julio Borbon, and one of the three catchers...
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This after thesupposedly asked the Phils for Drabek, Brown, and Happ (significantly less) and the Angels for Saunders, Aybar, and Wood? That's not even in the sameatmosphere...

Kill yourself JP...
 
Finally the media outside of Toronto are realizing that ******i is an idiot. Hopefully we fire this fool in the fall after another 84-78 season.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...ug=jp-firericciardi073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns [h1]Ricciardi shouldn't survive Halladay debacle[/h1]
By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports 47 minutes ago
Say you own a stock. And say somebody tells you the value of that stock is going to plummet immediately on a certain day. What do you do? You get rid of that stock. Because there is a fundamental and simple truth to success in the world of commodities: sell high.

Usually, it's a guessing game. Which makes the case of J.P. Ricciardi and his absolute murdering of the Roy Halladay(notes)trade market that much more egregious. He didn't have to speculate. He knew the value of Halladay would never be higher than it was for the past threeweeks. He understood that the second the clock hit 4:00 p.m. ET, he would be staring at his very own Black Friday.

And do you know what he did, the Toronto Blue Jays general managerwho has overseen a truly mediocre (616-619) team for nearly a decade and lavished $126 million on the underachieving Vernon Wells(notes)? Guess how he handled his chance to remake a franchise that in the cutthroat American League East dances thedance of inconsequence year after year?

He bungled the whole thing. He held when every iota of logic oozed sell. If that alone isn't a fireable offense - and it is - surely combined with theBlue Jays' performance and the Wells contract has Ricciardi earned his way to unemployment.

Such cases are generally shades of gray. This isn't. Consider the factors involved. The likelihood of the Blue Jays, as constituted, contending nextyear is minimal. Halladay said he wants to test free agency following the 2010 season no matter where he plays. A half-dozen teams were interested. Ricciardi,accordingly, could ask for a sizeable return for what amounts to two stretch runs with the most consistent pitcher in baseball.

But he overplayed his hand, and this was no typical bluff. Ricciardi went all-in on 7-2 off-suit. The minute the asking price on Halladay from Philadelphiamade the rounds - Kyle Drabek, Dominic Brown and J.A. Happ(notes), or the Phillies' two best prospects and a starting pitcher with 2.97 earned-run average in the majorleagues this year - executives around baseball began to wonder: Is he serious?

"I honestly thought he was posturing," one NL executive said Friday. "I figured the price would come down."

It didn't. Ricciardi knew he had the goods, and he wanted proper value for them. But when Philadelphia moved on and acquired reigning AL Cy Young winnerCliff Lee(notes)without yielding any of the three players Ricciardi asked for, all of his leverage disappeared.

Gone were the Phillies, the perfect trading partner: great prospects, desperate need, financial wherewithal. Reality then hit: All the remaining teams cameflawed.

Texas had the prospects but not the cash. The Los Angeles Dodgers hadthe centerpiece (Chad Billingsley(notes)or Clayton Kershaw(notes)) but wouldn't part with either. The Los Angeles Angels found the asking price of four young major leaguers a joke.Halladay may not have approved a trade to Milwaukee. And the thought that Ricciardi had a higher asking price for Boston or New York because Halladay mightcome back to haunt the Blue Jays - heaven forbid he wins a few games during a non-essential year, as opposed to the young players acquired actually smiting theRed Sox or Yankees when Toronto can reasonably contend - is misguided in every respect.

Or: Par for the course. Ricciardi handled the negotiations very publicly, a boon for the rumor-obsessed but, according to an executive whose team wasinterested in Halladay, "not good form." He left Halladay twisting and now brings him back with all kinds of ambiguity. The Blue Jays want him, butif they're overwhelmed with a deal over the winter, they'll trade him, and if not, he can come back for the first three months of the season, at whichpoint they'll reassess, and if they're not in it, they'll probably go through this same nonsense again, only this time they'll ship him off,and for far less than they could have gotten this year.

Got that, Doc?

He's got to be smirking at it all. This has been the busiest trade deadline in years. Lee to Philadelphia. His former Cleveland teammate, Victor Martinez(notes), to Boston. Matt Holliday(notes)to St. Louis and Jarrod Washburn(notes)to Detroit and Orlando Cabrera(notes)to Minnesota and Adam LaRoche(notes)to Boston, then Atlanta. Any Pittsburgh Pirate who didn't get traded should be embarrassed.

In that climate, Ricciardi couldn't muster up a proper Halladay deal, and it's rather reminiscent of Minnesota holding onto Johan Santana(notes)too long and watching the market for him crash. Ricciardi stuck to his valuation of Halladay even as the suitors' priorities shifted, and in some fashion,he deserves respect for never wavering. The problem is, Ricciardi did so to the detriment of the franchise he runs, and such stubbornness rarely coagulateswith success.

So the world moved on, and Ricciardi enters his lame-duck phase. Running the Blue Jays, of course, is at times untenable. He must win in a division wherewinning takes constant brushstrokes of brilliance. Tampa Bay last year proved it's possible, and there, perhaps, was the first gun fired in Ricciardi's21-blast salute.

He fought his own little war, against the two big boys of the AL East, and he lost. The Blue Jays may one day be good again. They showed flashes earlierthis season and have a decent core heavy on young pitching (Ricky Romero(notes), Brett Cecil(notes), Mark Rzepczynski and Scott Richmond(notes), plus the injured Dustin McGowan(notes), Shaun Marcum(notes)and Jesse Litsch(notes)) with some keeper bats (Aaron Hill(notes), Adam Lind(notes)and Travis Snider(notes)).

All of which would look much better with three or four kids as a complement. Actually, the Blue Jays did get a little younger Friday. In the minutes leadingup to the deadline, Ricciardi traded third baseman Scott Rolen(notes)to Cincinnati for third baseman EdwinEncarnacion(notes) and pitchers Zach Stewart and Josh Roenicke(notes). Ricciardi turned an expensive asset into youth, and for a losing team, that's always welcome.

Amid his mismanagement of the Halladay situation, Ricciardi did some good. Just not enough to save his job.
 
I actually like the Rolen deal... You all have no idea how bad errorcarnacion is and Roenicke has been up and down all season with the triple a club and ZachStewart wasn't even listed as a top 10 Reds prospect before the season started but has pitched his way into being a top prospect this season. This tradewas clearly done to benefit the Reds for next season, until one of our third base prospects is ready in 2011. We have plenty other young pitchers in the minorswhich made Stewart expendable.

And I cant believe we got a living body for Hairston.
 
Texas had the prospects but not the cash.Texas had the prospects but not the cash.
God I hate Yahoo! Sports columns...

Cash clearly wasn't the issue in the Rangers pursuit of Halladay...
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And I cant believe we got a living body for Hairston.
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He was batting .353 (6-for-17) over his last seven games, according to the Yankees press release about the trade.

If anything, he serves as an upgrade over Cody Ransom (another utility infielder) and can play 3B on days that A-Rod needs a day off. I hope there's morepositives about him that you can provide...
 
Yeah I guess it's because Hairston was playing everyday for us, which should never happen. He's a good utility player and should hit at the bottom ofthe lineup instead of hitting second which he did in our lineup.
BTW, he has only hit one homer since May, and that came the other night. And the 6-17 thing.. and he's only hitting .254. He was under .250 a couple gamesago.
 
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I figured his numbers were marginal. A bunch of Yankee fans is up in arms thinking the Yankees should've gotten a pitcher or two but I guess getting abackup infielder was a more pressing need to Brian Cashman at this time.

Hairston won't join the team today but most likely will tomorrow. I see the Yankees putting him in as a pinch-runner.
 
I didn't know where else to post this.

Jonathan Mayo's Top 50 Prospects (as of yesterday):

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Top 50 heading into this season: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/prospects/y2009/

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Originally Posted by JPZx

Stringer won't like this trade...back in May when Peavy nixed the original trade

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actually alot has changed since May

Poreda's star has lost some of its luster....no secondary pitch...looked like he was destined for the pen probably the reason Carlos Torres was given astart ahead of him against TB

Clayton's ceiling is a back end of the rotation kind of guy....innings eater written all over him

Adam Russell is just some corpse we threw in

Dexter Carter is the only guy I don't know much about

plus, we don't have to pick up his 2013 option now in order for Peavy to accept the deal

If Peavy stays healthy I think we made out pretty well
 
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Originally Posted by JPZx

Stringer won't like this trade...back in May when Peavy nixed the original trade

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actually alot has changed since May

Poreda's star has lost some of its luster....no secondary pitch...looked like he was destined for the pen probably the reason Carlos Torres was given a start ahead of him against TB

Clayton's ceiling is a back end of the rotation kind of guy....innings eater written all over him

Adam Russell is just some corpse we threw in

Dexter Carter is the only guy I don't know much about

plus, we don't have to pick up his 2013 option now in order for Peavy to accept the deal

If Peavy stays healthy I think we made out pretty well
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moon walking faster then melo at the garden
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and why didn't the bule jays trade Hoilday?
 
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