Mo’Nique wants you to boycott Netflix

you insinuated that he was some paragon of virtue for taking on bush

all i said if he was all that then what else has he done other than a lyric

i was informed he's done things for detroit and thats great

but for someone who "came up from the bottom" as a white man

i would think he would recognize how much more difficult it is for a black man

someone brought up proof before, more talented and from the same area

yet proof never got the dre co sign

but lets ignore all of that because em is so "credible"
I insinuated nothing about Em.

I spoke mostly about the relevancy of the Iraq War. Something you questioned

And please you are not throwing in different things that I myself have not said, in a clear attempt to deflect.
 
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sure it helps black people i didnt say it didnt

i said specifically for black ppl, like the uncf or naacp

No you said

you making it sound like he was so active what else did he do? donate any money anywhere?

And I responded with some of his charitable contributions to the impoverished demographic of the blackest city in the country.
 
Also Charles Hamilton wasn't THAT good to make it seem he could've been near as big as Em or saw consistent success off his ability and talent.

ah but there was a redneck rapper

anyone remember bubba sparks?



a foundation in his own name

i wonder how much funds he embezzled

everyone with their own nonprofit is banking off it
And he aint successful at all. Why his whiteness aint propel him to stardom?

Timbaland beats and a Missy Elliot cosign wasnt enough?
 
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I can't think of another rapper period that has the same type of twisted content that Eminem does.

Have you heard of Necro? The I Need Drugs album + any of his early WKCR freestyle sessions

Did you ever listen to The Geto Boys around '89/'90? Mind Of A Lunatic/Assassins, etc...
(if not i hope you check it out cause its some of the best hip-hop ever produced...grip it & the rubin remaster) and i'm sure it influenced eminem
 


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Have you heard of Necro? The I Need Drugs album + any of his early WKCR freestyle sessions

Did you ever listen to The Geto Boys around '89/'90? Mind Of A Lunatic/Assassins, etc...
(if not i hope you check it out cause its some of the best hip-hop ever produced...grip it & the rubin remaster) and i'm sure it influenced eminem

Old Three 6 was wild too. And CBo.

And then..... There's Brotha Lynch Hung :lol:
 
Usually when comedians have a special or tour, there's a period before where they try out the new material locally.

Then before the special/tour, they do promo on talk shows where you may hear a joke or two from the special. That lasts up to a year. After that the comedian, the good ones at least, don't go back to that well.

So as far as not being able to use the jokes and having to ask permission is Monique that limited?

As for the other details, if you don't like the deal don't do it. Its what Wanda Sykes did. Other comedians that do Netflix specials aren't having their business out there like that so we can't have a comparison to see if Netflix thinks Monique is that big of a risk to put all those stipulations in a deal or if this is a common contract for plenty of the no name low level dudes that have specials on the service.
 


Since I'm not sure what everyone else's deal looked like other than the money(pretty much 1- 8 ), I can't say whether this was bad or not.
And even if this was bad, I don't think it's because of racism or sexism personally.


P.S. I'm not in show business, but this deal doesn't look that bad to me. Netflix pretty much owns this special, so all she has to do is not use this same material in recorded shows for 2 years and not film a new special in 1 year. How often do comics record specials anyway? It doesn't say anything about her future gigs or new jokes, so from a business perspective( at least to me). She could take this deal, film and release the special, than write new martial and go on the road. It doesn't say anything about Netflix getting a cut from people that attend her live shows after the special.
 
Since I'm not sure what everyone else's deal looked like other than the money(pretty much 1- 8 ), I can't say whether this was bad or not.
And even if this was bad, I don't think it's because of racism or sexism personally.


P.S. I'm not in show business, but this deal doesn't look that bad to me. Netflix pretty much owns this special, so all she has to do is not use this same material in recorded shows for 2 years and not film a new special in 1 year. How often do comics record specials anyway? It doesn't say anything about her future gigs or new jokes, so from a business perspective( at least to me). She could take this deal, film and release the special, than write new martial and go on the road. It doesn't say anything about Netflix getting a cut from people that attend her live shows after the special.
The thing is, for most comics, coming up with an hour of material is really hard. Sure you get exposure from Netflix, but also you could tour the entire country using your same set that you know is funny. Now you have to workshop an entire new bit again. A special means the end of your material. Now the difference with something like Comedy Central is that they only play specials twice and that’s pretty much it. So you can still tour and use some of your material because it’s likely people haven’t seen it. With Netflix, it doesn’t go away.

She deemed that 500k isn’t enough when compared to hot traveling or doing the road for 2 years or however long the deal is for
 
The thing is, for most comics, coming up with an hour of material is really hard. Sure you get exposure from Netflix, but also you could tour the entire country using your same set that you know is funny. Now you have to workshop an entire new bit again. A special means the end of your material. Now the difference with something like Comedy Central is that they only play specials twice and that’s pretty much it. So you can still tour and use some of your material because it’s likely people haven’t seen it. With Netflix, it doesn’t go away.

She deemed that 500k isn’t enough when compared to hot traveling or doing the road for 2 years or however long the deal is for
Don't most comics retire the material after the special comes out anyway? Also there are a few months between the recording and the actual release of the special she could use the time in between to work shop new martial. If the special does well, she could sell out theaters and have new jokes.
 
Don't most comics retire the material after the special comes out anyway? Also there are a few months between the recording and the actual release of the special she could use the time in between to work shop new martial. If the special does well, she could sell out theaters and have new jokes.
Depends. John Mulaney was using jokes from his stand up special on his sitcom years later. I’ve seen Dave Chappelle use jokes on a late night show that was in a special. Now granted those are jokes jokes and not full routines

I just think the rub with her was, it’s essentially a 2 year contract with Netflix so 500k wasn’t enough for her. Like Amy Schumer probably isn’t gonna do anything anytime soon, neither are Dave or Chris rock.
 
Em's "credibility" comes from the fact that he was not a break out star who was discovered by somebody and brought out, like a Justin Beiber. But instead he actually "paid his dues" being a battle rapper and earning his "cred" from 0 to where he is now. Did being white benefit him? Of course, the same way being short benefits Nate Robinson being a great dunker.
U can believe he paid his dues all u want
Peeping how jimmy iovine moves
Let me know the real deal
 
Damn, all they needed to add to that agreement was to say she'd have to use the material they'd write for her
 
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