**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

[BIG LEEMELONE]

There’s no defending Ben’s effort/passiveness. It’s like he’s so scared of looking bad by Kawhi ripping him or somebody blocking him at the rim that he’d rather just not even attempt it and just pass it out and let somebody else try. Ben can do whatever he wants vs about 70-80% of the league. But certain teams he’s just completely ineffective against because of his lack of will vs them when they actually have defenders to put a body on him and a smart gameplan.

I’m sick and ****ing tired of Embiid being sick and tired but the dude averaged 28 and 14 this year, he’s improved plenty over his first couple years and still plays elite defense. The issue with him has absolutely nothing to do with his play, but all to do with there seemingly ALWAYS being something wrong with him. Other than MJ’s Flu Game I cant remember a single star player in the history of the NBA that was making the excuse of being sick in the middle of the playoffs like this. This man hitting up Brett Brown at 6AM on gameday saying he might not be able to play a playoff game because he’s sick is one of the most ridiculous things in sports I’ve ever heard. He has so much growing up to do.

Would this be the best backcourt in the east right now..?

Ben can do whatever he wants vs about 70-80% of the league. But certain teams he’s just completely ineffective against because of his lack of will vs them when they actually have defenders to put a body on him and a smart gameplan.

So basically playoff teams?

 

[Air Pope]

Dawkins is tripping so I had to make my own highlight tape for Ben. I got you @xxpizzo

This is advanced trolling

 

[numbah1grimey]

Dawkins is tripping so I had to make my own highlight tape for Ben. I got you @xxpizzo

Kawhi hand-speed and anticipation unreal

 

[amitt5504]

Would this be the best backcourt in the east right now..?



So basically playoff teams?

 

[kilroythedon]

It’s Dudley’s world now.

 

[buc em]

What sucks is

Would this be the best backcourt in the east right now..?



So basically playoff teams?

Nah...the Heat last year and Nets this year stopped Ben the first game of the series but then he did whatever he wanted the rest. So essentially once you get to the elite teams past the first round and you run into an elite defensive team like last year’s Celtics and this year’s Raptors and they’re able to gameplan specifically against you for a whole 7 game series then Ben’s game becomes completely ineffective.

What sucks is that because of Ben’s age/potential and how great he is a certain things on the court it’s hard to give him up, but with how trash the rest of the Raptors team has been on offense other than last night could you imagine if we had a point guard like Jrue or Conley running the offense? There’s no way we lose this series if they’re out there hitting threes for us instead of coming down and just handing off to Jimmy or Tobias every time down the court. We easily would have been up 3-1 heading into last night’s game instead of that complete no-show from Ben in Game 4.

 

[addict4sneakers]

The jig is all the way up on Ben. I apologize to Rondo for comparing this dude to him

 

[kingjay718]

Joel Embiid needs to lose weight. Maybe if he too care of his body he wouldn’t be ailing so ouch.

 

[Lizakers]

Y’all too hard on Simmons
He was rookie of the year, REMEMBER?

 

[amitt5504]

The jig is all the way up on Ben. I apologize to Rondo for comparing this dude to him

Croc MCW

 

[buc em]

How far does a Jrue-Lou-Iguodala-Thad-Vucevic team advance this year in the playoffs

 

[addict4sneakers]

Croc MCW

Crocodile Lonzo

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

What sucks is


Nah...the Heat last year and Nets this year stopped Ben the first game of the series but then he did whatever he wanted the rest. So essentially once you get to the elite teams past the first round and you run into an elite defensive team like last year’s Celtics and this year’s Raptors and they’re able to gameplan specifically against you for a whole 7 game series then Ben’s game becomes completely ineffective.

What sucks is that because of Ben’s age/potential and how great he is a certain things on the court it’s hard to give him up, but with how trash the rest of the Raptors team has been on offense other than last night could you imagine if we had a point guard like Jrue or Conley running the offense? There’s no way we lose this series if they’re out there hitting threes for us instead of coming down and just handing off to Jimmy or Tobias every time down the court. We easily would have been up 3-1 heading into last night’s game instead of that complete no-show from Ben in Game 4.

I could see Ben being trash against Milwaukee, Toronto, Boston, Orlando and Indy. And a hypothetical world where he had to play against Philly. He actually might fare better against the west tbh

 

[kilroythedon]

ben simmons just been a new michael beasley for me..

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

How far does a Jrue-Lou-Iguodala-Thad-Vucevic team advance this year in the playoffs

Don't try to steal my hot take

 

[numbah1grimey]

Embiid need to eat cloves of raw garlic and red onions. He’ll be much healthier

 

[danikerhino]

I could see Ben being trash against Milwaukee, Toronto, Boston, Orlando and Indy. And a hypothetical world where he had to play against Philly. He actually might fare better against the west tbh

No, the playoff pressure that made people like Durant and Kawhi into diamond would turn Ben into jelly.

 

[storm2006]

Nah...the Heat last year and Nets this year stopped Ben the first game of the series but then he did whatever he wanted the rest.

Why do Philly fans keep using the first round to legitimize Ben Simmons play?

 

[buc em]

I could see Ben being trash against Milwaukee, Toronto, Boston, Orlando and Indy. And a hypothetical world where he had to play against Philly. He actually might fare better against the west tbh

For whatever reason he seems to do better a lot of the time vs West teams. He’s done well vs the Pacers but the Bucks, Celtics, Raptors and Magic he’s struggled against.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Y'all do know Ben Simmons will be playing in the NBA for another 10+ years right? Sports fans are such prisoners of the moment.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

For whatever reason he seems to do better a lot of the time vs West teams. He’s done well vs the Pacers but the Bucks, Celtics, Raptors and Magic he’s struggled against.

He would do well against the Pistons. For sure

 

[buc em]

Why do Philly fans keep using the first round to legitimize Ben Simmons play?

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Dude said “basically playoff teams” as far as who Ben is ineffective against. I just stated that it’s obviously not all playoff teams because he dominated those two playoff series other than one game, it’s just the elite defensive teams once you get past that first round though.

 

[amitt5504]

For whatever reason he seems to do better a lot of the time vs West teams. He’s done well vs the Pacers but the Bucks, Celtics, Raptors and Magic he’s struggled against.

So teams with a 3/4 who can body him. Giannis, Horford/Morris/Smart, Kawhi/Siakam, Gordon. Thats not good

 

[blastercombo]

Think hard?

Embiid is the once in a lifetime talent. Simmons is nothing more than a 6’9 Corliss Williamson with a handle

He’s hurt all the time and he’s just a couple years in. Yes, they’ll have to think hard about it

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

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Dude said “basically playoff teams” as far as who Ben is ineffective against. I just stated that it’s obviously not all playoff teams because he dominated those two playoff series other than one game, it’s just the elite defensive teams once you get past that first round though.

Yea..so..BASICALLY playoff teams