CP1708 wrote:
To be honest with ya'll, I still have Gary Payton ahead of Jason Kidd any day.
Gary's defense, and ability to score, while still getting 8 assists (or a mere couple less than Kidd) is more valuable to me than anything Kidd did. Kidd did rebound better than GP, but a lock down defender like that, at the point of my defense?
Gimme that each and every time without question.
I do too but I aint bring that argument out cause it will upset a lot of people. The only thing you would question when taking Payton over Kidd is that a Payton led team is going to run less than a Kidd team ( in their primes) what do I have to surround Payton and Kidd with. But Payton's post game is the epitome of what you want out of a normal sized pg.
VCFAN It became a debate in the 80's with Isiah and Stockton
When you look at their careers they mirror the debate between a modern day Isiah in Rose and Westbrook, and a modern day Stockton in Paul. Williams is something in between with a little Jason Kidd mixed in.
I said this in the "clear cut best player in the game thread" it depends on what your building around.
Titles in the case of superstars show that your skills were good enough and or well rounded enough for you to be the main or close to the main cog in teams that accomplished the ultimate.
