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NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins
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You're old news as usual... if he wanted him that bad we would've took him. Chip wants headlines as well.
Tebow still 6'3 250 lbs?
And Jerry can get his side show on the cheap once the Browns cut him.. Seems like we've been down this road before:
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/10623482/brandon-weeden-agrees-join-dallas-cowboys
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Also you might not remember the draft to well, but Cleveland had to trade up with someone to pick manziel
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wouldn't he get the same 10 mill earlier as a signing bonus rather than it being a roster bonus.good guy Watt
smart guy Watt
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You're old news as usual
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Also you might not remember the draft to well, but Cleveland had to trade up with someone to pick manziel
Umm clearly you don't remember the draft well at all, the Cowboys picked at #16, Manziel didn't get picked until #22. So like I said, if Jerry really wanted him then he would've over ruled Stephen and took Johnny.
Try again fam.
You wake up with the Star in your mouth every morning or nah?
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"Cleveland gave up the No. 26 overall selection and a third-round pick at No. 83 for Philadelphia's slot at No. 22 -- and the right to grab the Texas A&M quarterback who NFL Films guru Greg Cosell praised as an "obvious playmaker.""Umm clearly you don't remember the draft well at all, the Cowboys picked at #16, Manziel didn't get picked until #22. So like I said, if Jerry really wanted him then he would've over ruled Stephen and took Johnny.You're old news as usual... if he wanted him that bad we would've took him. Chip wants headlines as well.
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Also you might not remember the draft to well, but Cleveland had to trade up with someone to pick manziel
Try again fam.
You wake up with the Star in your mouth every morning or nah?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...eland-browns-draft-johnny-manziel-after-trade
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Watt didn't do anything but change the wording behind the 10 million he's still going to receive
Nice gesture of course. But it's not like he gave back money
Nice gesture of course. But it's not like he gave back money
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You're old news as usual
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Also you might not remember the draft to well, but Cleveland had to trade up with someone to pick manziel
Umm clearly you don't remember the draft well at all, the Cowboys picked at #16, Manziel didn't get picked until #22. So like I said, if Jerry really wanted him then he would've over ruled Stephen and took Johnny.
Try again fam.
You wake up with the Star in your mouth every morning or nah?
"Cleveland gave up the No. 26 overall selection and a third-round pick at No. 83 for Philadelphia's slot at No. 22 -- and the right to grab the Texas A&M quarterback who NFL Films guru Greg Cosell praised as an "obvious playmaker.""
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...eland-browns-draft-johnny-manziel-after-trade
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As you told me before, Chip wasn't the decision maker at the time
.. isn't that your go to excuse when we talk about last season moves? C'mon son, you got us in here clogging up the thread with irrelevant/pointless information. I just wanted to point out, once again, that the Cowboys stay in your mouth like toothpaste & on your mind like a bad end to a relationship.
How bout we go into the NBA thread and discuss OKC?
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Titans will continue to be trash if they draft Mariota. That team is cursed.
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as I said before:As you told me before, Chip wasn't the decision maker at the time.. isn't that your go to excuse when we talk about last season moves?
at best tebow will be the 3rd QB.. or a training camp body
there is a strong possibility we draft a QB and we have sanchez signed.. Bradford may or may not be traded come draft time
again as I mentioned above:
which is 3-4 inches taller than manziel.. and about 40 lbs heavier (going by combine measurements)
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tebow would be used in running packages wouldnt even count him as a qb.
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Manziel, Tebow, who cares neither will make a big impact if we are being honest with ourselves
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Is there a report out that they may take him? They really just need to trade back since they have so many needs
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I cant see ken whisenhunt wanting mariota.. he's kinda like bill O'Brien..
they want strong armed traditional drop back passers.. hence why they say titans probably want to see what they have in mettenberger
they want strong armed traditional drop back passers.. hence why they say titans probably want to see what they have in mettenberger
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It went from making headlines to what he would be used for
On that note ..
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Yup.
Which is foolish, but Ken never knew what he was doing with the QBs in Arizona either. If you're big and your arm is big that's all he's interested in.
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Titans need to focus on many other needs before taking a QB, if they want Mariota then they need to take their chances and trade back
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and whose headlines were about manziel again?It went from making headlines to what he would be used for
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I think titans are going leonard Williams, if they remain at 2
just my opinion.. but they like Washington, were faking interest in mariota assuming chip would trade everything he had for him
also think Washington is going with an edge rusher if they remain at 5 (Gregory, fowler, Beasley or ray)
just my opinion.. but they like Washington, were faking interest in mariota assuming chip would trade everything he had for him
also think Washington is going with an edge rusher if they remain at 5 (Gregory, fowler, Beasley or ray)
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Sean Mannion is the kind of QB I can see Whisenhunt taking a chance on in later rounds
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come draft time.. wouldn't surprise me if certain teams have petty and/or hundley rated above mariota..
if teams envision there is going to be steep learning curve with mariota anyways, some guys may have those two rated about mariota talent wise (stuff is already coming out with this)
if teams envision there is going to be steep learning curve with mariota anyways, some guys may have those two rated about mariota talent wise (stuff is already coming out with this)
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dolphins need to do the right thing and let dion go to a 3-4 team:
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fa...oe-philbin-dion-jordan-to-focus-on-being-a-de
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fa...oe-philbin-dion-jordan-to-focus-on-being-a-de
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Fourth national article discussing why Carr sucks.
I want leonard williams but i would be happy if we got another QB and benched Carrbage.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...-move-on-from-derek-carr-draft-marcus-mariota
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"A deeper dive into Carr's numbers suggest his 2014 season left a lot to be desired, however. Carr finished the season with a 38.4 Total QBR, which ranked 28th out of 33 qualified quarterbacks. His QBR didn't rank favorably among other recent rookies, either. Of the 27 rookies to qualify since 2006 -- as far back as Total QBR data goes -- Carr's QBR ranks 15th, sandwiched between EJ Manuel (38.4) and Geno Smith (35.9).
Carr's QBR suffered because of minimal gains made on his passes. He averaged a mere 5.46 yards per attempt last season, which was not only worst in the NFL last season, it was one of the worst all time.
In the history of the NFL, only three quarterbacks have thrown at least 500 passes in a season and averaged fewer than 5.50 yards per attempt: Carr, Joey Harrington and Chris Weinke. Harrington and Weinke both did so within the first two years of their careers, and neither lasted long in the NFL.
Carr's inability to hit the deep ball contributed to his low yards per attempt. Carr completed a league-worst 22.4 percent of his passes thrown at least 20 yards downfield last season, and it's not as though his receivers were to blame. The Raiders lacked big-name receivers in 2013 as well, but the team ranked 12th overall completing deep passes (38.1 percent).
He then moves on to his future projections based on previous examples. He uses those past examples to come to the conclusion that "it's unlikely he'll improve to the level of an above-average NFL starter."
His final QBR is only 9.8 points better than that of his first 15 starts (28.9).
A QBR of 50.0 is considered average, so Carr would need an improvement of nearly 12 points over his career to reach that mark. Only Matthew Stafford, who has improved by 13.4 points from his first 16 starts, has reached those levels. Stafford also had the talent level to be drafted No. 1 overall in 2009, and dealt with injuries early in his career."
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I want leonard williams but i would be happy if we got another QB and benched Carrbage.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...-move-on-from-derek-carr-draft-marcus-mariota
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"A deeper dive into Carr's numbers suggest his 2014 season left a lot to be desired, however. Carr finished the season with a 38.4 Total QBR, which ranked 28th out of 33 qualified quarterbacks. His QBR didn't rank favorably among other recent rookies, either. Of the 27 rookies to qualify since 2006 -- as far back as Total QBR data goes -- Carr's QBR ranks 15th, sandwiched between EJ Manuel (38.4) and Geno Smith (35.9).
Carr's QBR suffered because of minimal gains made on his passes. He averaged a mere 5.46 yards per attempt last season, which was not only worst in the NFL last season, it was one of the worst all time.
In the history of the NFL, only three quarterbacks have thrown at least 500 passes in a season and averaged fewer than 5.50 yards per attempt: Carr, Joey Harrington and Chris Weinke. Harrington and Weinke both did so within the first two years of their careers, and neither lasted long in the NFL.
Carr's inability to hit the deep ball contributed to his low yards per attempt. Carr completed a league-worst 22.4 percent of his passes thrown at least 20 yards downfield last season, and it's not as though his receivers were to blame. The Raiders lacked big-name receivers in 2013 as well, but the team ranked 12th overall completing deep passes (38.1 percent).
He then moves on to his future projections based on previous examples. He uses those past examples to come to the conclusion that "it's unlikely he'll improve to the level of an above-average NFL starter."
His final QBR is only 9.8 points better than that of his first 15 starts (28.9).
A QBR of 50.0 is considered average, so Carr would need an improvement of nearly 12 points over his career to reach that mark. Only Matthew Stafford, who has improved by 13.4 points from his first 16 starts, has reached those levels. Stafford also had the talent level to be drafted No. 1 overall in 2009, and dealt with injuries early in his career."
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