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Who do you think will win?

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Kerr definitely out coached Blatt. Without a doubt. Kerr inherited a great roster but he did make some great decisions this series.
 
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No, nobody is ignoring that. He deserves credit. He wasn't more valuable than Steph Curry though.

I usually agree with you on damn near everything NBA related but as a Warrior fan me and some of the other fans were saying Iggy deserved this for what everyone has mentioned below:


Mind bottling to me that anyone who actually watched this series closely could say Iggy didn't deserve MVP. He was by far the most consistent Warrior. Never had a bad game and had big, timely moments on both sides of the ball. Eagle Dollar earned that MVP.


They would've lost if his minutes was limited by still coming off the bench. He changed the whole dynamic of the series in GS favor when he was inserted into the starting lineup allowing him to flourish which in returns makes him more valuable. Don't get me wrong Steph's scoring and his scoring only was definitely appreciated and needed for GS to pull this off but Iggy has a bigger impact in them winning in this 6 game series.
 
If Delly and Moz didn't play exceptional at the start of the series, this would have been a sweep.

Just remember that when attempting to put Lebbywinks on a pedestal.
 
[quote name="FlacoBey"]I think if Lebron was a more likable person people would be praising his 6 finals appearances and not focusing on his 4 losses. I also believe the sports media, and a lot of people on here, have romanticized Jordan's career to a point where we want to witness that sort of greatness again vicariously through Lebron, but that isn't, and wasn't, ever gonna happen.

Lebron isn't Jordan, Kobe isn't Jordan, etc. don't know why people can't just enjoy the NBA product in the present. So what Lebron's won 2 and lost 4. I blame ESPN for all this bogus legacy talk, it's like we can't talk about basketball without bringing up someone or something that happened 20 years ago. We just watched a great series between one of the greatest forwards of all time and one of the best shooters of all time, enjoy it for what it is.[/quote]All o'that.

[typical Bron hater dolt] One of the greatest shooters, yes. Who was 'One of the greatest forwards of all time', though? [/typical Bron hater dolt]
 
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Was 74.5% FT shooter and then started to dip in 2011-12 in Philly

2011-12: 61.7%
2012-13: 57.4%
2013-14: 65.2%, so he was coming back to the mean, then regressed
2014-15: 59.6%


Did he develop the yips or something?

I honeslty never understood this either. Same goes with Duncan, Tmac and some other players i remember doing okay at the line and then later in their careers, they start getting worse. No Iggy bad, but still declining at the line.
 
Out of curiosity, if you replace Lebron with a replacement level player, OR if he was missing and both Love/Irving were healthy, do they even take two games from the Warriors?

The stats that were posted paint a certain picture, but let's be real...he had the whole damn team on his back.


No one is denying LeBron is a great player. He moved up in my All Time Rankings a few spots. But in no means was this an All Time Great Finals Performance. That's what is being pointed out.

Also by saying you replace him with a replacement level player is also disingenuous. Let's replace LeBron with DeMarre Carroll, because of course that makes sense.

But let's say you replace LeBron with healthy KD.. Do the Cavs win one? Likely.


And if no LeBron, and you have Kyrie & Love from Game 1 - Game 6.. I'm willing to bet somewhere they steal a game.

Like Iverson's run back when the 76ers played the Lakers, the numbers (advanced wise) look worse due to him (like Lebron) having to do more than necessary. As you know, this was an EXTREMELY depleted Cavs squad that was relying on Lebron for everything.

Even though advanced stats say otherwise, I strongly feel as though he was the best player on the court in the series due to what he was tasked with. He did all he could but came up short.

I wasn't meaning to be disingenuous with my replacement level question...but swap out Lebron, and this team is probably swept. He meant THAT much to the Cavs during this run to the Finals with both Love and Kyrie being on the shelf.

I'm not going to sit here and complain about Iggy's MVP for his defense, because he was definitely the spark GS needed to win the championship...however, I'm still appreciative of what Lebron did over the course of the past 6 games. Honestly, I think this run helps, rather than hurts his legacy. Can't say anything about his effort or not leaving everything on the floor.
 
it's not even the entire story of just putting Iggy in the starting line-up, the bigger story was taking Bogut out and limiting or cutting all his minutes. Bogut was useless, and a liability in the first 3 games. He was getting out played by Mozgov and killed in the pick and roll.


i am not knocking Iggy but you don't give the Finals MVP to a role player. he did great in limiting lebron and knocking down open shots but the entire GSW offense is revolved on Curry making the right play.
 
Here go Stephen A saying gsw had this easy path to the finals. Saying the pelicans weren't ready... Boston didn't even belong there, bulls=grizz minus Conley and atl were who we thought they were. I can't see how gsw had a easier path than cle.
 
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Here go Stephen A saying gsw had this easy path to the finals. Saying the pelicans weren't ready... ***** Boston didn't even belong there, bulls=grizz minus Conley and atl were who we thought they were. I can't see how gsw had a easier path than cle.

It doesn't fit the narrative.

Boston? LOL
Chicago? Pau got hurt. Series over.
Atlanta? Half the squad on IR or hobbled.

But hey, Golden State had it easy!
 
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Just realized, Lebron has spent 1/2 of his career in the Finals. King stuff!
Chew on that stat but remind us how weak the East is first.
if that's the case .. west went to the finals 9 times in 14 years.

However Bill Russell won 11 out of his 13 years playing career.

Come on dude ... That stat ain't impressive. ..

You kids watch poo and Golden shower ****, nothing impresses or shocks you anymore.
You named guys with better stats, but old enough to be your Great Great Grandpa.
Must be a stat that happens all the time.
 
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What that boy Shaq did to Rik Smits 
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it's not even the entire story of just putting Iggy in the starting line-up, the bigger story was taking Bogut out and limiting or cutting all his minutes. Bogut was useless, and a liability in the first 3 games. He was getting out played by Mozgov and killed in the pick and roll.


i am not knocking Iggy but you don't give the Finals MVP to a role player. he did great in limiting lebron and knocking down open shots but the entire GSW offense is revolved on Curry making the right play.

So Kawhi shouldn't have gotten it last year? He wasn't Timmy, Tony, or Manu.
 
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