NT: Official Personal Finances Thread

can you elaborate more on this refinance process.

did the life of the loan extend?
My refi is actually 1.99% they originally processed that app as a refi for a used car.

No, I shortened the loan term from 72mo to 60mo. You have the option to extend or shorten the loan.

Just apply for a refi loan at the bank or credit union of your choice, look for lowest rates find 3-5 lenders (apply to lowest rate lender first, next lowest, and so on).

Figure out all of the lenders you want to apply to, then apply to them on the same day. Online application is the easiest and fastest way to apply.

After you get approved you have to get the loan payoff amount from your current lien holder, title/registration , and pay a lien fee(varies by state).
 
Cause I have heard that these companies are SKETCHY
Very sketchy, the agency I was dealing with wouldn't do anything in writing and was never able to record our convos. Had to just pray that the collections would be removed like he said. Thankfully he kept his word, and the collections was removed about 2 weeks later.
 
Need some advice here -


Just been shaking my head at myself lately, as my finances aren't terrible, but I'm not prepared for a rainy day at all.

I do have a 401k and a Roth with decent amounts, but I don't really count that as savings.

Basically I'm living outside my means and admitting it. I'm 27 and made a couple bad financial decisions the last few years - mainly with cars, that will have me tied down for the next 2 years.

Two car payments are $1,300 combined with insurance a month
Rent - $1500
Utitlities - $400 month easily
My son's school - $500 month
Whatever else we spend money - food, etc


My Income is great, we just find a way to spend it all. I need to reevaluate and just drive a Camry next go around and stop wanting the next best thing.

Life lessons I guess....anybody else feel me? End of pity party.

Anybody been in the same boat and turned things around?
 
Ironic SN :lol

Car payments: you can sell your car(s) even though you still owe money on it. Basically have your buyer pay the rest of the loan on top of whatever you're charging. Go get you a Camry/Accord.

What are you spending on Utitlities? Cable TV? Cut that. Internet is all you need.

Son's school.....nothing wrong with going to public schooling. Save yourself $500/mo there.
 
Need some advice here -


Just been shaking my head at myself lately, as my finances aren't terrible, but I'm not prepared for a rainy day at all.

I do have a 401k and a Roth with decent amounts, but I don't really count that as savings.

Basically I'm living outside my means and admitting it. I'm 27 and made a couple bad financial decisions the last few years - mainly with cars, that will have me tied down for the next 2 years.

Two car payments are $1,300 combined with insurance a month
Rent - $1500
Utitlities - $400 month easily
My son's school - $500 month
Whatever else we spend money - food, etc


My Income is great, we just find a way to spend it all. I need to reevaluate and just drive a Camry next go around and stop wanting the next best thing.

Life lessons I guess....anybody else feel me? End of pity party.

Anybody been in the same boat and turned things around?
I hope you invested in NKE 
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Need some advice here -


Just been shaking my head at myself lately, as my finances aren't terrible, but I'm not prepared for a rainy day at all.

I do have a 401k and a Roth with decent amounts, but I don't really count that as savings.

Basically I'm living outside my means and admitting it. I'm 27 and made a couple bad financial decisions the last few years - mainly with cars, that will have me tied down for the next 2 years.

Two car payments are $1,300 combined with insurance a month
Rent - $1500
Utitlities - $400 month easily
My son's school - $500 month
Whatever else we spend money - food, etc


My Income is great, we just find a way to spend it all. I need to reevaluate and just drive a Camry next go around and stop wanting the next best thing.

Life lessons I guess....anybody else feel me? End of pity party.

Anybody been in the same boat and turned things around?
A budget will do WONDERS. If you do a zero based budget each month combined with a cash system, that should help a lot.

Sell the cars and downgrade. No reason why you have $15,600 going down the drain each year. Take the remaining amount and buy that used Camry. They'll hold their value well enough to save up for a newer car after a couple years and shouldn't have any major problems in the mean time.

I can guarantee if you do a budget, you'll easily see the holes in your financial situation and where to plug them.
 
Need some advice here -


Just been shaking my head at myself lately, as my finances aren't terrible, but I'm not prepared for a rainy day at all.

I do have a 401k and a Roth with decent amounts, but I don't really count that as savings.

Basically I'm living outside my means and admitting it. I'm 27 and made a couple bad financial decisions the last few years - mainly with cars, that will have me tied down for the next 2 years.

Two car payments are $1,300 combined with insurance a month
Rent - $1500
Utitlities - $400 month easily
My son's school - $500 month
Whatever else we spend money - food, etc


My Income is great, we just find a way to spend it all. I need to reevaluate and just drive a Camry next go around and stop wanting the next best thing.

Life lessons I guess....anybody else feel me? End of pity party.

Anybody been in the same boat and turned things around?
When I graduated at 24, I had a Durango that was paid off...got my first job as a professional and went Durango to G35 to 335i to custom order 135i lease. I bought myself a Tag when I graduated, then added an Omega, then a Breitling. All that in a matter of like 3 years.  My wakeup call was when my employer made everyone re-interview for their jobs. I didn't lose mine, but it made me realize, that no matter how safe you feel and no matter how much your employer pays you, a life-changing, financially-devastating event is potentially just one day away. 

I wanted to get out of my lease, be smart and downgrade...but there were monetary penalties. So, I rode it out. I saved money every pay check during that lease, knowing that I would have to buy something afterward and didn't want a car payment. I also began to budget, tracking my spending across various catergories. In a span of 3 years, I saved 10-months expenses for emergencies, paid off 50k in student loans, and paid for my next car with cash. (An unintended bonus was, I met my gf during that period...now we live together which allows me to cut near all my expenses in half).

What I've learned is, it sucks to work all the time and not get the finer things (I drive a Mazda3 now), but that pales in comparison to the joy of having financial cushion and not stressing about money. Where I'm at right now, I've been able to trim my work week to 4 days, my car is paid off, my expenses are low, and I'm able to save money every paycheck after I allot myself a couple hundred bucks of fun money to do whatever. Peace of mind trumps baller status all day for me.

You can definitely do it. You just have to be committed, and hopefully your significant other is down for the cause too...If not it'll be as if you are trying to move forward while someone is pulling back against you.  Either way, I feel you are already on the right track by admitting your past mistakes. (If you're not upside down on those cars, perhaps trade them in and then get two used cars with some years on 'em).
 
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I recommend you asking if they will allow you to "pay for delete". Come to an agreed settlement with the company, then pay them to remove the collections from your account. Not all collection agencies will put it in writing. Try to record the conversation if they won't put it in writing.

can i just pay a company to help me with deletes? i have no prob with that..........

also if you have everything paid off and youre debt free how bad is it to really have paid off collections? they leave after 7 years right?


i need to brush up on finances instead of sneaker releases man, i admit i have a problem with and need to fix priorities

still itachi still itachi

that was a great story, much respect bro.

i need to stay in this section of NT
 
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can i just pay a company to help me with deletes? i have no prob with that..........

also if you have everything paid off and youre debt free how bad is it to really have paid off collections? they leave after 7 years right?


i need to brush up on finances instead of sneaker releases man, i admit i have a problem with and need to fix priorities

still itachi still itachi

that was a great story, much respect bro.

i need to stay in this section of NT

Yes, if you don't want to do it yourself. I would make sure before you commit with a company to verify that they actually help clients with "pay for delete". Most companies literally just dispute everything on your report which can cause more damage to your score.

The collections will still pull down your score by atleast 80 points even if they are paid off.
 
 
When I graduated at 24, I had a Durango that was paid off...got my first job as a professional and went Durango to G35 to 335i to custom order 135i lease. I bought myself a Tag when I graduated, then added an Omega, then a Breitling. All that in a matter of like 3 years.  My wakeup call was when my employer made everyone re-interview for their jobs. I didn't lose mine, but it made me realize, that no matter how safe you feel and no matter how much your employer pays you, a life-changing, financially-devastating event is potentially just one day away. 

I wanted to get out of my lease, be smart and downgrade...but there were monetary penalties. So, I rode it out. I saved money every pay check during that lease, knowing that I would have to buy something afterward and didn't want a car payment. I also began to budget, tracking my spending across various catergories. In a span of 3 years, I saved 10-months expenses for emergencies, paid off 50k in student loans, and paid for my next car with cash. (An unintended bonus was, I met my gf during that period...now we live together which allows me to cut near all my expenses in half).

What I've learned is, it sucks to work all the time and not get the finer things (I drive a Mazda3 now), but that pales in comparison to the joy of having financial cushion and not stressing about money. Where I'm at right now, I've been able to trim my work week to 4 days, my car is paid off, my expenses are low, and I'm able to save money every paycheck after I allot myself a couple hundred bucks of fun money to do whatever. Peace of mind trumps baller status all day for me.

You can definitely do it. You just have to be committed, and hopefully your significant other is down for the cause too...If not it'll be as if you are trying to move forward while someone is pulling back against you.  Either way, I feel you are already on the right track by admitting your past mistakes. (If you're not upside down on those cars, perhaps trade them in and then get two used cars with some years on 'em).
Solid advice, Still Itachi.

I appreciate the feedback.

I graduated at 23 as well, and was driving a pristine 2003 Maxima that I should have held on to - it was like 6 months from being paid off. Like you, I got the itch for a new car.

Long story short, one bad purchase put me in the red almost immediately and I'm upside down. I didn't do my homework, and got sucked into BMW's Select Financing. Ended up trading in the car and rolled the negative equity into a lease in order to be able to walk away faster. Sounds dumb, but I got a hook up from a friend who is a GM at a Lexus dealership and Ill be able to walk away in another 1.5 years and not have a $700 car payment and nothing owed.

As others have suggested, selling the car would normally be the right move, but I have to ride out this lease and continue to make the payments.

The good news is, I don't have any credit card debt except the 20-30% I use every month, and my student loans are only $5k. We are currently renting, so are not tied down to mortgage either. Our son will start grade school in the Fall, so that will save us $500 month.

I feel you on the whole idea that circumstances can literally change in a matter of a day. I was laid off a couple years ago, but luckily found another job within 3 weeks that actually paid better, but it still shook me up. Luckily at the time I was not paying rent and my expenses were fairly low. 

With all that said, you would think I would learned my lesson and saved for a rainy day 
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I definitely have expenses I could cut back on - cell phone is $160 month and Cable/Internet is about the same. I am really tied down with the car payments right now, but at least I am learning along the way. I am saving for retirement and have a legal side hustle that has been good to me for almost 8 years now, so the extra cash flow I guess is why I have stayed in this holding pattern because I typically make $300-400 cash each weekend.

I still know I could save more if I tried - just have to stop buying random stuff that I don't need. 
 
@Still Itachi  great post and great advice. I agree, having nice things is cool, but if you are not sound financially it isn't worth it.

Cars get a lot of people in trouble, and end up buying much more than they can afford. Hate how 35K cars are the norm now, people always tell me,

"oh my car didn't cost a lot it was only 35K and my payments are close to $500/mo" 
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Working my way out of my dumb mistakes now from when I was in college. I'd much rather be financially stable than to buy new clothes/shoes every month and travel 6 times a year.

I'm cool on that right now, I'm using my 20s to set me up for financial independence.
 
I have an excel spreadsheet that I track expenses down to the cent on. It helps me be much more mindful of my spending. I've also increased my target number for contributions to my investment portfolio so that helps keep me on top of that also.
 
@Antidope  your in finance right? I can see why you would like the excel spreadsheet for tracking expenses.

I use mint for tracking expenses, it is good but could be a lot better. I did create a 5 year investment portfolio spreadsheet, the format could be better but it does the job.

I want to learn how to get better at doing financial spreadsheets (budgets,goals,debt paydown, etc) do you know a good site to learn?
 
[ATTACHMENT=11065]Budgeting101.xlsx (62k. xlsx file)[/ATTACHMENT]

Don't say Yeah never gave y'all nothing.

*i am not a financial advisor, and do not consider this spreadsheet as financial advice.
 
@Antidope
 your in finance right? I can see why you would like the excel spreadsheet for tracking expenses.

I use mint for tracking expenses, it is good but could be a lot better. I did create a 5 year investment portfolio spreadsheet, the format could be better but it does the job.

I want to learn how to get better at doing financial spreadsheets (budgets,goals,debt paydown, etc) do you know a good site to learn?
I have mint and check it an insane amount but there are some things that it does not process well.

Most of what I picked up was a result of work mostly.

Have you ever heard of Personal Capital? It's similar to mint but from the bit I've played around with it its stronger in some aspects.

As annoying as it is to do, iIfeel the excel spreadsheet is the best method, you can get lost in what you've purchased and how things read on your statement.

Every time I take a cab for example the charge shows up as a different company. The most obvious example is cash when I have to withdraw cash I like to keep track of why and without the excel sheet I couldn't do that.
 
[ATTACHMENT=11065]Budgeting101.xlsx (62k. xlsx file)[/ATTACHMENT]

*i am not a financial advisor, and do not consider this spreadsheet as financial advice.
:lol. :lol I see what you did there. Well played.
 
I have mint and check it an insane amount but there are some things that it does not process well.

Most of what I picked up was a result of work mostly.

Have you ever heard of Personal Capital? It's similar to mint but from the bit I've played around with it its stronger in some aspects.

As annoying as it is to do, iIfeel the excel spreadsheet is the best method, you can get lost in what you've purchased and how things read on your statement.

Every time I take a cab for example the charge shows up as a different company. The most obvious example is cash when I have to withdraw cash I like to keep track of why and without the excel sheet I couldn't do that.
I use Personal Capital too, I think it is bad for tracking expenses, but great for portfolio management/tracking.

I swear if Personal Capital and Mint merged it would be the best creation ever for personal finance lol.

On mint you can write notes for each transaction and categorize each transaction to keep track of withdrawal/transfers and other things that you wouldn't remember where/what/why about the transaction. The mobile app is only good for looking at budgets/bills/spending to get everything out of mint you have to use the website. I think that mint will get better, because they have ended a few products (mint for mac, and mint text messages) I think they are trying to become more focused and provide a better experience for the user. At least that's what my hope is.

You can also set up rules on Mint. Just found this reddit thread that has a lot of useful Mint tricks.

 
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Cars get a lot of people in trouble, and end up buying much more than they can afford. Hate how 35K cars are the norm now, people always tell me,

"oh my car didn't cost a lot it was only 35K and my payments are close to $500/mo" 
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I would say the two biggest sources of self-inflicted financial strife for people...Cars and Housing. A bad purchase in either can screw you over for years. It's always funny to me how so many financial advice articles tell people to sweat the small stuff: Starbucks, cable tv, etc. when so much agony can be avoided by simply buying smart when searching for transportation and housing.

Its pretty sad. People don't realize how much a 35k car loan impacts them, because the average person does not ponder the true overall cost of a purchase, instead focusing on whether the monthly installments can squeeze into his or her budget. If a person instead gets a 20k car, then they can save 15k, plus interest, over the life of the loan, have lower payments, save money, and be happier.

Ultimately an expensive car is an opportunity lost; the opportunity to save some of those hard earned dollars.
 
 
I would say the two biggest sources of self-inflicted financial strife for people...Cars and Housing. A bad purchase in either can screw you over for years. It's always funny to me how so many financial advice articles tell people to sweat the small stuff: Starbucks, cable tv, etc. when so much agony can be avoided by simply buying smart when searching for transportation and housing.

Its pretty sad. People don't realize how much a 35k car loan impacts them, because the average person does not ponder the true overall cost of a purchase, instead focusing on whether the monthly installments can squeeze into his or her budget. If a person instead gets a 20k car, then they can save 15k, plus interest, over the life of the loan, have lower payments, save money, and be happier.

Ultimately an expensive car is an opportunity lost; the opportunity to save some of those hard earned dollars.
Spot on, especially with housing. People get pre approved for 500K and go buy a 500K home, instead of trying to find a house below their max budget.

Those financial articles are put out to keep the 99% poor I am sure of it. There is so much  misinformation in those articles it is ridiculous, and the fact that people actually believe what they say
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Honestly a lot of people won't even cut out a morning starbucks purchase out of their budget, they feel that is "too much and not a good way to live". If only people realized how much that daily $5-$7 starbucks and $8-$15 lunch cost them per year.

The inflation of car prices is ridiculous too 20K for a base CIVIC, 18K for a base SENTRA is crazy to me. I just don't see how these prices are justifiable in any way shape or form. The inflation of car prices is what is causes people to get 6-7year loans and always upside down on every car they purchase.

I bought my 2015 altima for 15K before taxes and tags OTD (4.3K trade in), I couldn't see myself paying more than that for a commuter car.
 
^ I feel your pain. 20k is a grip. But I'm gonna take the alternate point of view and say, cars if purchased properly are fairly good value.

These days, most reputable car makers are rolling vehicles off the line that will function well for 15-20 years. If a person buys a car that is one-year or two-years used for 20k, it will provide them with transportation for at least decade, that's a good deal. 

Where people get in trouble is: the second they pay off their current car loan, they look to trade it in for something nicer. 
 
True, with a decent down payment its not too bad. Bring in that True Car pricing and dealers just start chopping thousands off of the cars price
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Lol hopefully it will last a decade. My 2008 altima lasted 8 years 138K miles
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, I should have went with a honda or toyota this time, but I like all of the standard features in nissan's.
 
I don't know why more people just don't buy the cars cash.  If I'm not buying it cash I'm leasing, financing makes no sense imo unless you're going to get 0% apr or something
 
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