nt'ers who don't drink/smoke/do any drugs

Originally Posted by Joseph Camel Jr

why do you choose not to? Health reasons, personal beliefs and lifestyle choices, observation, and religious beliefs.

how long have you not been doing these things? did you stop or did you never start in the first place? Since birth. Never Started.

do you feel like you're missing out in any way? No.
 
I choose not to because I promised myself I would never drink or smoke until I made my first million.
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I'm 19 btw. Even when I make my first mil, I probably won't. It just doesn't appeal to me.
 
Originally Posted by thytkerjobs

Never have...never had the desire to. And I def don't feel like im missing out on anything.

Same thing here. Never wanted to and never felt like I was missing out either.
 
bad experiences with drinking...and i now despise the smell of alcohol. the other stuff just dosent do it for me...so ion kno..lol
 
i only smoked a few times and enjoyed it but i don't think its attractive for females for smoke so i don't anymore...
 
Originally Posted by SWOBOYdeHTEEZY

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by SWOBOYdeHTEEZY

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by raptors29

Originally Posted by thytkerjobs

Never have...never had the desire to. And I def don't feel like im missing out on anything.
This, plus I'm an athlete.
I'm not going to pursue any attempts to prove this or post pics, but I almost guarantee I'm a better athlete than 99% of NT. In strength, vertical leap, speed, and most importantly skill.

How is the general population still oblivious of the fact that most of our professional athletes use drugs recreationally?
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Just to play devil's advocate: It certainly wouldn't[/color] [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]help[/color] [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]dude's goal of being the best athlete if he did those things.[/color]

As for me, I'm an athlete, and (I'd say) a highly-moral person that was raised by very strict parents. I like the feelings that come about through the ingestion of alcohol and drugs, but the taste of most alcohol prevents me from drinking and the cost of most drugs prevents me from using heavily/frequently.

If it's just not you, that's fine. But, I don't see the argument against the feelings that alcohol/drugs bring about.
Neither would at least half of all other activities he does not pertaining his sport (IE, watch tv, eating pizza, drinking soda, playing boardgames, spending money on movies, studying for school.

The assumption I made from your argument is, if something doesn't necessarily help you become better at your sport, that something should be abstained from? Am I correct?

I sincerely am not trying to tell anyone how they should live their lives. Just challenging the arguments put forward.
Assuming he's a student-athlete, studying for school is necessary. Smoking (which is definitely detrimental to your lungs) and drinking (not bad in moderation) aren't.

While pizza and sodas aren't the healthiest options on the planet, they do have nutrients that are used by the body-- no problem there.

I suppose you could make the argument that resting is crucial to an athlete, which would cover the TV, movies, and board games.

My point is, while those things that you listed may not be necessary (aside from studying for school), they, at the very least, don't hurt his athletic ability.

Smoking does. I couldn't make the same argument for alcohol (in moderation), but I'll assume that he has his own reason(s).
One word, vaporizer. I'm staring mine in the numbers right now. As an athlete being better conditioned than the man who has the unfortunatetask of guarding me is something I take GREAT pride in. I see what you're saying, Smoking weed, could, make oneless conditioned. I guess, sure. I just know, in my case, I would be shamed in myself if I couldn't punish anybody trying to guard me by wearing them out,and I've had teammates who were bigger potheads with just the same prideful mentality.

Tell that to Michael Phelps, arguably one of the most conditioned men alive.
The ill effects of weed smoke on the lungs, are widely exaggerated. Rarely by researchers, but by people who don't know any better.

Originally Posted by heLiumcLinton

Wait so dudes actually think there's nothing wrong with weed/alcohol?

Yeah that's usually the mentality of alchys/potheads
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Who said there's nothing wrong with alcohol? I said even moderate alcohol use is pretty dangerous. Please enlighten us oh great one.What's the danger of smoking weed? I dont know no betters, Im just a silly pothead lolz.

I'm done with this post. I forget half of NT is barely 18, and like I said before, if you haven't completed at leastone yr in college away from home your opinion is none and void to me. You're supposed to be straight-edge before college, everyone is.
Come talk to me after college, and then I'll say you're actually straight-edge if you still don't partake in anything.
Trust me, I'm sorta dating a straight edge girl right now and of all the people i met who were straight edge as a freshmen she's one of the only peopleto still be straight edge. And I played college basketball, trust me, all my teammates as freshmen (including me) had the same mentality. It didn't takelong to get rid them of that mentality.

ALMOST ALL ATHLETES ESPECIALLY PROFESSIONALS use some sort of drugs.
You're either oblivious or naive if you believe otherwise.
 
I've drank a couple of times but not anymore. I've never smoked or did drugs. Just don't see a reason to do it i guess
 
i dont because i hardly go out anymore

ill drink at concerts and stuff but thats it

college is coming up the week after next so we shall see how that changes
 
Had a bad experience with both drinking and smoking
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. So, now I don't do either.
 
Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Every poster in here who hasn't completed at least one year in college away from home, won't be taken seriously by me. Not saying NO ONE goes through college sober, but a lot of young' uns are always on this DARE steez until college, and a lot of most completely change.
That is so true. If you are in high school, you shouldn't be big into drugs or even drinking. A lot of high school students are not only soberbut gung ho about it and tell the world how they will never do drugs or drink and that they can have fun sober blah blah...

That will prove true for some of you but many of you will, either in college or when the lameness of starting a career set in, will loosen up eventually andfor many of you, drink and drugs will become indispensable.
 
^You damn skippy. Let's see...my tolerance in high school Junior/Senior year was about 8 drinks before I'm gonna KO and go to sleep. By the end of thefirst quarter in college, my tolerance went up to 16 drinks. When I went to the hospital though one time, that instantly changed me. I still drink, but Ihaven't ventured anything near 16 like I used to.
 
for those sayin a lot of high school kids are sober, where the hell are you guys from? i was one of the very few kids in my class who didnt do anything. Maybeits just my area, cause that sure as hell isnt true around here
 
Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by SWOBOYdeHTEEZY

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by SWOBOYdeHTEEZY

Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life

Originally Posted by raptors29

Originally Posted by thytkerjobs

Never have...never had the desire to. And I def don't feel like im missing out on anything.
This, plus I'm an athlete.
I'm not going to pursue any attempts to prove this or post pics, but I almost guarantee I'm a better athlete than 99% of NT. In strength, vertical leap, speed, and most importantly skill.

How is the general population still oblivious of the fact that most of our professional athletes use drugs recreationally?
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Just to play devil's advocate: It certainly wouldn't[/color] [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]help[/color] [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]dude's goal of being the best athlete if he did those things.[/color]

As for me, I'm an athlete, and (I'd say) a highly-moral person that was raised by very strict parents. I like the feelings that come about through the ingestion of alcohol and drugs, but the taste of most alcohol prevents me from drinking and the cost of most drugs prevents me from using heavily/frequently.

If it's just not you, that's fine. But, I don't see the argument against the feelings that alcohol/drugs bring about.
Neither would at least half of all other activities he does not pertaining his sport (IE, watch tv, eating pizza, drinking soda, playing boardgames, spending money on movies, studying for school.

The assumption I made from your argument is, if something doesn't necessarily help you become better at your sport, that something should be abstained from? Am I correct?

I sincerely am not trying to tell anyone how they should live their lives. Just challenging the arguments put forward.
Assuming he's a student-athlete, studying for school is necessary. Smoking (which is definitely detrimental to your lungs) and drinking (not bad in moderation) aren't.

While pizza and sodas aren't the healthiest options on the planet, they do have nutrients that are used by the body-- no problem there.

I suppose you could make the argument that resting is crucial to an athlete, which would cover the TV, movies, and board games.

My point is, while those things that you listed may not be necessary (aside from studying for school), they, at the very least, don't hurt his athletic ability.

Smoking does. I couldn't make the same argument for alcohol (in moderation), but I'll assume that he has his own reason(s).
One word, vaporizer. I'm staring mine in the numbers right now. As an athlete being better conditioned than the man who has the unfortunate task of guarding me is something I take GREAT pride in. I see what you're saying, Smoking weed, could, make one less conditioned. I guess, sure. I just know, in my case, I would be shamed in myself if I couldn't punish anybody trying to guard me by wearing them out, and I've had teammates who were bigger potheads with just the same prideful mentality.

Tell that to Michael Phelps, arguably one of the most conditioned men alive.
The ill effects of weed smoke on the lungs, are widely exaggerated. Rarely by researchers, but by people who don't know any better.

Originally Posted by heLiumcLinton

Wait so dudes actually think there's nothing wrong with weed/alcohol?

Yeah that's usually the mentality of alchys/potheads
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Who said there's nothing wrong with alcohol? I said even moderate alcohol use is pretty dangerous. Please enlighten us oh great one. What's the danger of smoking weed? I dont know no betters, Im just a silly pothead lolz.

I'm done with this post. I forget half of NT is barely 18, and like I said before, if you haven't completed at least one yr in college away from home your opinion is none and void to me. You're supposed to be straight-edge before college, everyone is.
Come talk to me after college, and then I'll say you're actually straight-edge if you still don't partake in anything.
Trust me, I'm sorta dating a straight edge girl right now and of all the people i met who were straight edge as a freshmen she's one of the only people to still be straight edge. And I played college basketball, trust me, all my teammates as freshmen (including me) had the same mentality. It didn't take long to get rid them of that mentality.

ALMOST ALL ATHLETES ESPECIALLY PROFESSIONALS use some sort of drugs.
You're either oblivious or naive if you believe otherwise.
So wait, you're saying that you don't believe that weed negatively affects your lungs because you haven't read enough credibleresearch proving its effects... yet you state that "ALMOST ALL ATHLETES ESPECIALLY PROFESSIONALS use some sort of drugs" and anyone who doesn'tbelieve your completely subjective and baseless opinion is "oblivious or naive"?
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The danger of smoking weed, in my own personal experience, is the addiction factor and "A-motivational syndrome." Anyone who thinks that peoplecan't get addicted to weed is either oblivious, naive, or hasn't been around enough weed smokers. I'm not saying that all people who smoke (oreven those who smoke regularly) are addicted, but from my own personal experience, most people who smoke weed consistently become addicted and cannot handleits effects. It's honestly a tragedy how many people I know whose lives have literally been ruined by their weed habit. On the other hand, I know a fewpeople who smoke consistently and can remain highly functional but this is a very small minority in my experience. Butif someone can handle their business and make the moves that they want to make and smoke weed whenever they want without feeling like they "need" it,then more power to them...

I'm 24 and completed my bachelor's and master's degrees without smoking, drinking, or taking any type of drug whatsoever. The last time I smokedweed was when I was 14. It's funny to me that you entered college with a "straight-edge" mentality yet you quickly succumbed to peer pressure,and then you think that everyone is going to be as mentally weak as you and your teammates
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StaXX wrote:
I choose not to because I promised myself I would never drink or smoke until I made my first million.
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I'm 19 btw. Even when I make my first mil, I probably won't. It just doesn't appeal to me.


money motivated people like yourself scare me

anyways, as for myself...i do drink and smoke. not really a fan of drinking, i'll do it occasionally.

ive kind of been struggling and having a battle with myself on whether or not i should be smoking. i've changed up my lifestyle alot lately...i meditatefrequently, practice qigong, do kung-fu, run, etc.....and i think all those years of smoking has taken a bit of a toll on my lungs because my breathing/staminais all jacked up. i just can't seem to resist blazing though, especially since all my friends do it and they all smoke some good $+!+.

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Never smoked/did drugs, never will. I loathe cigarettes..

Drinking is rare, maybe once a month & not to the point where I pass out unconscious..
 
Originally Posted by Av1r3x

Never smoked/did drugs, never will. I loathe cigarettes smoking in general..

Drinking is rare, maybe once a month & not to the point where I pass out unconscious..
 
You are an idiot to say you are normal when you smoke cigs. Plus it literally gets you addicted. Cigs are so much nastier than weed. :X marijuana, it'sorganic.
 
Cigs, and drinking are way worse for your body than marijuana. Also, nothin4ever, I just read an article about smoking blunts and how it can get you cravingthat nicotine and you wouldn't even know it. I'm quitting smoking blunts etc.
 
Never was much of a drinker .. quit stoges in Feb. (Thank GOD) .. Just quit smoking weed too around the same time .. My whole click is full of potheads .. Ohwell .. Feels good ..
 
Originally Posted by FrankReynolds420

Cigs, and drinking are way worse for your body than marijuana. Also, nothin4ever, I just read an article about smoking blunts and how it can get you craving that nicotine and you wouldn't even know it. I'm quitting smoking blunts etc.

word...as much as i love blunts, they are horrible for you.

hemp papers are the truth though. those bob marley rolling papers are smooth
 
Originally Posted by needsomejays

for those sayin a lot of high school kids are sober, where the hell are you guys from? i was one of the very few kids in my class who didnt do anything. Maybe its just my area, cause that sure as hell isnt true around here


This. I'm one of the only people in my class that does'nt do drugs. I think its mostly because I play basketball so I dont want anything to get in myway or distract me
 
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