Official 10' NFL Offseason Thread: CIN sign T.O. 1yr/2m

Originally Posted by dmxfury

Peep the top of the page! Though hearing it, it doesn't sound that great


As for Chase I know reports say he is improving but the same people said that about Simpson. I think skipping Dez and going with Jermaine said a lot about their confidence in Chase. Who knows he may show up this year but I'm guessing Grish is the guy if healthy.
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That's true. The writing is on the wall that Simpson is gone though. I don't feel as bad though because Sweed was a bust too and Pitt would've took Simpson if he was available.
 
Carlton was my 3rd fav receiver in the draft.

I hope the Browns use him right. Add that muscle Carlton
 
Farve's MEDIAMANIA is on it's way
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[h1]Jim Trotter> INSIDE THE NFL

Ireland's logical follow-up question to Bryant not worthy of outrage[/h1]



Even in the no-holds-barred world of the NFL, where a head coach can get a free pass after using the female pronoun her to describe a male player, Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland took a moon leap out of bounds when he asked Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant during a pre-draft interview if the player's mother used to be a prostitute.

Or did he?

Two sources familiar with the situation contend that Ireland's question was nothing more than the logical follow-up to comments Bryant had made about his family. According to the sources, Ireland began the meeting by asking Bryant, 21, about his upbringing and his relationship with his siblings. Then he asked what Bryant's father did for a living when Bryant was growing up. The following exchange allegedly ensued:

"My dad was a pimp."

"What did your mom do [for a living]?"

"She worked for my dad."

"Your mom was a prostitute?"

"No, she wasn't a prostitute."

Ireland apologized Tuesday for asking what has been described as a classless, offensive and potentially illegal question. But if the incident went down as described by two members of the Dolphins organization, Bryant should be the next to repent because there was no need for this story to go from a controlled burn to a raging wildfire.

Ireland simply connected the dots given to him by Bryant. Could he have been more tactful with his question? Absolutely. He could have gotten around the controversy by asking: What type of work did your mother do for your father? But Bryant also could have been clearer with his message. The anger and outrage he expressed to Yahoo! Sports over the incident has as much to do with the word picture he painted as it does with Ireland's conclusion.

Bryant could not be reached for comment, and his agent, Eugene Parker, did not return a phone message. As for the Dolphins, majority owner Stephen Ross said he will investigate Ireland's handling of the interview process. But you can best believe that if it had gone down the way Bryant has led some to believe, get-tough commissioner Roger Goodell would be out front protecting the integrity of the shield. Instead, his office has said the Dolphins are handling the matter.

"Jeff Ireland is a classy, classy kid," said one GM, speaking on the condition his name not be used. "Do I think he made a mistake asking that question? Yeah. Even if I knew it was true, I could never ask a kid that. But I have to tell you that the story going hard around the Combine -- and everybody heard it whether it was true or not -- was that his mother was a prostitute and his father was her pimp. That doesn't make it right, but that stuff was out there."

Teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars each year on background checks on prospective draft choices, particularly those who could go high in the first round. Bryant was red-flagged by multiple teams because of what they described as a "shaky" family situation -- his mother, Angela, served 18 months for selling crack cocaine -- his anger issues as a youngster and his habitual tardiness. He also was suspended by the NCAA for all but three games last season for lying about his relationship with former NFL great Deion Sanders.

Did Ireland know about Bryant's background before he asked the question about Bryant's mother? He should have. If he didn't, he or the team's private investigators and college scouts should be dismissed immediately. So why even go there? Some believe he may have wanted to see whether Bryant would answer honestly. Or perhaps he wanted to gauge the player's reaction to an incendiary question. Only Ireland and the Dolphins know, and the GM couldn't be reached for comment.

One thing that cannot be disputed, however, is that Ireland was hired by Bill Parcells, a man who was notorious for pushing players' buttons during his 19-year head-coaching career. While with the Patriots he went so far as to refer to wideout Terry Glenn as "she" during a media session. It would be foolish to think that Parcells had no input in the line of questioning. As another GM pointed out, teams generally go over their questions before bringing in a prospect to make sure they're on the same page.

"This kid may have led the league in [pre-draft] visits," one GM said of Bryant. "He was pounded by clubs. But I haven't heard about anybody else asking the type of question about the mother that the Dolphins did, so that tells you that no one else felt comfortable about going that road. You hear about all types of crazy questions being asked, but this is really the first time where there was something as insensitive as this. I'm sure Jeff wasn't the only one in the room. I wish somebody else had said, 'You know what? We don't need to go there.' "

But what if Bryant took them there? I would have connected the dots in the same way that Ireland did based on what Bryant allegedly said. Bottom line: There's a major difference between asking a logical follow-up and knowingly wrapping an insensitive and incendiary accusation in the form of a question. Ireland, I believe, asked a logical follow-up question that was coated with neither malice nor prejudice.
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If true and if Mike Silver knew the whole time that this was the context of the convo, he owes Ireland an apology



edit- Fins deny to story and say it's BS.
 
Interesting...



I always said Pitt and Cin should just do a Simpson for Sweed trade, both have shown talent maybe a change could help. Can't get much worse...
 
Man I'm cracking up that Sam Hurd requested a trade after they drafted Dez Bryant... like seriously bro... you getting CUT

dont nobody want you via trade... KILL THAT NOISE
 
and that story has since been refuted by Bryants people.

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spin on a story they already apologized for



and on that note, Bryant is Killing them Jokers in Mini camp already.
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"Disruptive" Santonio Holmes booted from a flight in Pittsburgh

Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2010 12:04 PM ET

Well, so much for Santonio Holmes' new leaf.

Less than three weeks after being traded from Pittsburgh in the wake of a four-game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy, Holmes has been escorted off a plane for being a "disruptive passenger."  NBC affiliate WPXI reports that the incident occurred on Thursday night, shortly after 9:00 p.m.

We know there are two sides to every story, but Holmes needs to find the line of what may get him in trouble and stay as far away from it as possible.  Otherwise, that four-game suspension is eventually going to be extended by 12, or more.


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Fins say the story is BS. That's why I wrote "if" it's true Ireland was owed an apology.

One thing I do know, the reporter (mike silver) is milking the Dez story and I got his attention on twitter
 
Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant has denied that a question from Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland in a predraft interview asking if his mother was a prostitute was prompted by something Bryant said.

"No, I didn't tell him my dad was a pimp," Bryant said in a text message to ESPN's Ed Werder on Thursday.

A league source told ESPN.com's Matt Mosley details of the conversation first reported by SI.com earlier Friday were accurate. During the meeting, the source said, Ireland asked Bryant -- during a talk about Bryant's upbringing and relationship with family members --- what his father did for a living when Bryant was growing up, which apparently prompted this exchange:

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Bryant: "My dad was a pimp."

Ireland: "What did your mom do [for a living]?"

Bryant: "She worked for my dad."

Ireland: "Your mom was a prostitute?"

Bryant: "No, she wasn't a prostitute."

Following the Cowboys' first rookie minicamp Friday, Bryant was asked about the conversation in the SI.com story.

"No, that's a lie," he said to reporters. "I really don't want to speak on that."

Ireland apologized to Bryant on Tuesday for asking whether his mother was a prostitute in an interview during the former Oklahoma State player's trip to the Dolphins in March.

"My job is to find out as much information as possible about a player that I'm considering drafting. Sometimes that leads to asking in-depth questions," Ireland said Tuesday in a statement released by the Dolphins. "Having said that, I talked to Dez Bryant and told him I used poor judgment in one of the questions I asked him. I certainly meant no disrespect and apologized to him."

Ireland received permission from the Cowboys' front office Tuesday to speak with Bryant, the 24th pick of the first round.

Yahoo! Sports first reported that during one of his predraft visits, Bryant was asked by a high-level executive of one NFL franchise -- during an extensive conversation about Bryant's past -- whether his mother, Angela, was a prostitute.

"No, my mom is not a prostitute," Bryant told Yahoo! Sports. "I got mad -- really mad -- but I didn't show it. I got a lot of questions like that: Does she still do drugs? I sat and answered all of them."

The backgrounds of Bryant and his mother were widely reported prior to the draft. Angela was only 15 when Dez was born, and she served time in jail for selling crack cocaine.
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He wasn't escorted off the plane, the article is wrong.

However, Holmes got off the plane by himself, and police officers reminded him of complying with flight regulations. The wide receiver was not charged.
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What he did wasn't a big deal at all, but it was just stupid. Does he not understand the perception about him? This just doesn't help anything
 
Summer/2009's shoulder = Summer 2010's ankle

See you week 1, Brett.
 
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