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Official 10' NFL Offseason Thread: CIN sign T.O. 1yr/2m
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Vikes & saints players sued and got an injunction, if he's innocent, he will do the same right... til then *Kat Williams* I'll wait ...
we're acting as tho this positive test was just yesterday. this dude has had 9 months to piece something together. instead we get silence... and he's just now considering a suit ...
Kevin and Pat Williams sued because the banned element in the diuretic they took wasn't listed on the bottle.
Cush isn't disputing that his hGC was 6iu. What I'm telling you is that from everything I know he wasn't taking steroids.
I could be wrong, but I've gotten this information multiple times from credible sources.
You don't have to believe me, it really doesn't matter since before this everyone though he was juicing anyways.
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Question, what would Cush be suing for and who would he be suing?
(That was a serious question by the way. Not trying to be a smart @$% or anything like that)
(That was a serious question by the way. Not trying to be a smart @$% or anything like that)
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Originally Posted by USA Pride4Life
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Exactly this is a natural hormone produced by the body. He has no choice in this matter even if he was clean.
All he can do is lose these 4 games salary, take the increased testing, and go be a HOF'er or maximize his potential.
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yes, he does have a choice. he took other tests thru out the yr and his levels werent raised, go back with his nutritionist, chemists and his team and find out why that one particular test came back with raised levels...
there's got to be a reason right? Why cant he prove it? why has it been 9 months since and he cant even win an appeal? wheres the NFLPA to dispute this test result? where's his complaints? guy has been completely silent about it,
there's a reason only the one test was positive tho ...
question, how many incorrect positive test results have happened in the nfl? how many guys have we heard about claiming they didnt use such and such, and then nothing ever comes of their claims?
there's got to be a reason right? Why cant he prove it? why has it been 9 months since and he cant even win an appeal? wheres the NFLPA to dispute this test result? where's his complaints? guy has been completely silent about it,
there's a reason only the one test was positive tho ...
question, how many incorrect positive test results have happened in the nfl? how many guys have we heard about claiming they didnt use such and such, and then nothing ever comes of their claims?
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One NFL general manager, requesting anonymity, offered this scorching view: "We did our research on him before the draft last year and we concluded he was a chronic steroid user dating back to high school. More than a few people were surprised when he passed the steroid tests at the combine. I think the guy became a pro at masking it, until he was caught. I definitely would have taken my vote back on that award if I had one."
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/12/ap-voters-too-easy-on-cushing/
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http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/12/ap-voters-too-easy-on-cushing/
and not for nothing, but this whole Vicodin mess w. the Saints is gonna really blow up. This is just the tip of the iceberg...u got dudes wearing wires, coaches supposedly stealing and being addicted to painkillers, coverups, etc....Sean Payton got some [ricky ricardo] Splanin' [/ricky ricardo] to do...
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OUCH!
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can somebody school me on how long the cycle works and when you need to get off?
i remember during the draft, steroid questions were everywhere with cush.
It wouldnt be the smartest decision to take something knowing they test randomly at the draft workouts.
If he did it then hes guilty, he cant be that dumb/naive to take something with all those whispers about him.
i remember during the draft, steroid questions were everywhere with cush.
It wouldnt be the smartest decision to take something knowing they test randomly at the draft workouts.
If he did it then hes guilty, he cant be that dumb/naive to take something with all those whispers about him.
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I feel like this should be a bigger story than what it is already....but like I said before, I really think this is the tip of the iceberg. You may see a lot of prominent folks associated w. the Saints being fired.....and if Payton is involved...
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This was posted yesterday by Adam on his twitter but no one posted it here so...
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I never said the test came back incorrect, that's why I don't know what he would sue for. What I'm saying is that calling his hCG level "raised" is not really that accurate. He tested such a small amount over the level that is banned, and there are numerous things that can raise someone's hCG level.Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
yes, he does have a choice. he took other tests thru out the yr and his levels werent raised, go back with his nutritionist, chemists and his team and find out why that one particular test came back with raised levels...
there's got to be a reason right? Why cant he prove it? why has it been 9 months since and he cant even win an appeal? wheres the NFLPA to dispute this test result? where's his complaints? guy has been completely silent about it,
there's a reason only the one test was positive tho ...
question, how many incorrect positive test results have happened in the nfl? how many guys have we heard about claiming they didnt use such and such, and then nothing ever comes of their claims?
And, you're smart enough to know the difference between having a claim and being able to prove that claim.
I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that he would have to prove that he took a supplement that had hCG. To make an analogy, if he had tested positive because he busted a nut right before the test, he would have to prove to the NFL that he actually beat off before the test. With the burden of proof being all on him because of the NFL's complete autonomy he's pretty much @++%%@.
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/12/ap-voters-too-easy-on-cushing/
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/12/ap-voters-too-easy-on-cushing/
Just read that entire article. The whole time he's making a commentary on the DROY award/voting process, and then drops that anonymous quote. I just finished my finals, and one essay I had to write was about source credibility. Thomas George doesn't have any, and his unidentified source definitely doesn't have any. I mean, if anything, we can be pretty damn sure that he wasn't on roids his freshman year at SC
But like I said, if he used roids then he's a fraud simply for telling everyone otherwise. I just don't really consider a very slighly elevated hCG level enough to prove to me beyond a reasonable doubt that he was using roids. The NFLs policy doesn't need the same burden of proof of steroid use in it's policy and that's why he's suspended. Based on everything I know about Cush, he was either juicing behind everyone's back or he didn't do anything. Considering the fact that in todays age what he got caught for is not really that big of a black eye (and not nearly as big a black eye as lying to the press about it when he could just say "no comment") and he just had a press conference flat out saying that he didn't do anything strengthens my belief in everything I've posted here the past couple days.
That said, how do I stop Yuku from sending me emails? %%*@*$@ woke up to 79 emails in my inbox
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Please explain to me how anything that's occured is blatant?Originally Posted by Dade B0Y
Why ya'll dudes trying to defend something so blantant?
Supplement head? C'mon man.
This dude was putting the finishing touches on a cycle. HcG IS a known MASKING AGENT. There is a reason it's on the banned substance list.
To use hCG as a masking agent you need to inject it. The levels Cush tested for makes that pretty much impossible
It's the same stuff Manny Ramirez took last year.
Right, but the MLB didn't suspend Manny for the test, they suspended him for having a prescription to it after a test with extremely high levels of testosterone. Yeah, Manny had a prescription for the stuff. Why would you get a masking agent prescribed to you
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haha me too, there is a link in the email. I had like 100 emails pop up on my iphone.
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I went to that link and unsubscribed, still keep getting those *%$**%$ emails though.
%@!$ Yuku, %*%! is turrible
%@!$ Yuku, %*%! is turrible
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not sure if u know this but there are MANY disreputable doctors out there, who for the right price, will get yo u a script to just about anything
No, I had no clue there are doctors with bad reps. You mean to tell me they're all not perfectly upstanding men of honor
What I meant was, that for Manny, if he was using it as a masking agent why would he incriminate himself by creating a paper trail. Then again, it seems like Manny doesn't think things all the way through at times.
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[h1]Roy Williams vows to fend off Dez Bryant[/h1]
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Roy was tight the minute he heard they moved up. That fool's stance is not going to change throughout the entire season.
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