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People here still wouldn't rather have Felton, Fields, Chandler, Gallo, and Stat? That Melo trade was a disaster. I would be 100x more optimistic and excited with that young, fun team.
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Originally Posted by 10027
People here still wouldn't rather have Felton, Fields, Chandler, Gallo, and Stat? That Melo trade was a disaster. I would be 100x more optimistic and excited with that young, fun team.
Originally Posted by Buc Em
Originally Posted by 10027
People here still wouldn't rather have Felton, Fields, Chandler, Gallo, and Stat? That Melo trade was a disaster. I would be 100x more optimistic and excited with that young, fun team.
But, but..."they wouldn't have anybody to take that last shot"
Could have had those guys grow together, have Amare dominate games as the number 1 option like he was doing, beat the Celtics first round (which I think they would/could have because of their athletisicm and speed) and then have everybody buzzing about this new, exciting, young Knicks team that teams were going to have trouble with next year. Which would then lead to either Melo signing with the Knicks in the summer without them losing their young pieces or them adding a Marc Gasol or another high profile player through free agency or trade. Instead they put out a slow-paced team with absolutely no depth that the Celtics could actually hang with athletically for a full series, make D'Antoni completely change how he coaches and now you're stuck with two guys who like to take mid-range jumpshots and post up and neither is a good passer.
Well done.Originally Posted by Big J 33
Sigh... let's go through this one more time
Well we still have Fields and Stat... so cross them out. Felton is 26 years old and not getting any better, he had a good partial season with us but who knows how long he kept that up, not to mention he got way too trigger happy. Chandler was owed a contract, how much should the Knicks give him considering he and Gallo play the same position? Gallinari could be very good, but who knows... would he ever be better than Melo? Would Chandler AND Gallo be better than Melo combined?
So the young and exciting Knicks team could sign Melo in the offseason, ignoring the fact that EVERYTHING coming out of his camp indicated he wanted a new contract prior to this new CBA. So despite Melo seeing this young, exciting core, he didn't just shut up and play out his contract... nope, he demanded a trade and forced the Knicks hand. Plus, like I said... Chandler needed a contract which would take up cap space needed to sign Melo... OH AND MARC GASOL? The guy who loves playing in Memphis, who Memphis loves, and with what money would we sign Gasol? And yeah... Amare could have been able to keep dominating... except he was getting DESTROYED by logging so many minutes and having to do it all alone, Amre isn't exactly a 21 year old anymore... and no one could take over and dominate or close out a game... maybe Gallo or Chandler catches fire... or MAYBE in a few years they can, but right now there needed to be another superstar to help Amare.
Few Knicks fans will argue the trade was 100% successful, Melo's greed forced us to give up pieces we didn't need to and we still don't have a defensive presence or solid bench. But when fans who don't follow the team come in and blabber "oh the Knicks were so much better... that team could have been contenders" give me a break. It's easy to play the what-if game and say "this could have happened, then this could have happened" Bottomline is Melo wanted a new deal and a new team, with Chandler being a free agent we traded a 26 year old point guard who chucks 3's, a 25 year old unproven rookie big man in Mozgov, and Gallo.
Would I have loved to see the home grown Chandler and Gallo develop into a great combo? Or Felton, the country boy who embraced the big city become a great NY point guard? Sure... it would have been a great story and Toney Douglas being the longest tenured Knick is ridiculous, but what can you do? Stop being a Knicks fan because they traded those guys? PRETEND that somehow Melo is not as good as Chandler and Gallo? It's VERY easy to look back on the trade seeing the Knicks struggles following and say "OH NO THE KNICKS TRADE WAS AWFUL THAT TEAM COULD HAVE BEEN GREAT" when that's spinning the truth... there was no certainty in that core, no guarantees that team develops and stays together... so please, enough already.
Originally Posted by CoupeIt88
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY
Chalk up D Will lack of star power to playing in Utah.
And if a hard cap is set at $45MM-$48MM that means every team will have to alter all of their salaries. Who's to say that Melo, Stat, and CP/Dwill won't come together like the 3 non-blondes and take less money overall to benefit to the team?
Until the CBA is done, everything is pure speculation.
1) You can't restructure a deal until the 3rd year of a contract
2) Even if it were possible, considering Melo's actions during the Melo drama, you think he's going to want to be paid less now?
It's sad to say but many of us wanted Melo because we just wanted to fill the void of not getting LeBron James. Melo & Stat won't work, there is no fluidity and cohesiveness.
Maybe the Magic wouldn't want STAT, but maybe they would, we should at least try. Yes Stat would feel cheated but he'd be going back to Central Florida, I'm sure he wouldn't be as devastated.
Originally Posted by MrONegative
Are those the top 2 we're looking at right now? Selby and Darius Morris. With maybe Faried as that Jordan Hill pick?
Which one's supposed to be better?
he won't be around at 17
Originally Posted by MrONegative
didnt realize that Faried kid was that good. is this outta nowhere or was he getting hype back before the tourney?
explain to me how "meshing" is gonna make us defend or rebound better
dont be silly you have 2 extremely special talents in melo and stat. that can be a championship 1-2 combo. you gotta do what a winning team does and get guys like faried, etc who can do the things like defend or rebound that are obviously shortcomings for melo and stat. you dont trade them, dont be foolish here. thats why i said before that with our draft pick its not even necessarily about drafting the best available player its about drafting guys who can come in and fill a role that this team needs like a kenneth faried or a floor general such as morris