***Official 2009 N.L. Central Thread*** Congrats to the Cardinals***

Originally Posted by tylerdub

Boy, That is trouble for you guys. He has had such a struggle to stay healthy.
It's the story of his career
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I don't get Harden sometimes.....oh well......let's just focus on the bigger picture. Big four game series against the ST Louis. Should be a lot offun. On here too....
 
Another Win............Yea, Carp to the DL isnt good at all, but at least its only his ribs and not his arm. He wont be on the DL too long, 2-3 weeksmax.........will miss about 3 starts.

He`ll come back ok, his pitching has been excellent all year, not really worried.

Hell, we really dont need him if we had a viable closer, our offense can score some runs....we just need someone to keep the other team from scoring.
 
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[h3]Cards' extra-base hits down D-backs[/h3]
Ludwick, Duncan have big days in offensive display
By Tom Singer / MLB.com

PHOENIX -- Drowning their sorrow over the loss of ace pitcher Chris Carpenter, the Cardinals littered Chase Field with extra-base hits Wednesday in an 12-7 victory over the Diamondbacks.

It was hardly a wind-blown masterpiece.

As St. Louis catcher Yadier Molina noted afterward, "It was ugly, but we got it done somehow."

What they mostly accomplished was applying some salve to the pain of the loss of Carpenter, on the disabled list after sustaining a rib-cage injury while batting in Tuesday night's game.

"Oh, man, that was definitely tough. I can't imagine what he's thinking now. A setback not only for him, but the team," said Joel Pineiro, who twisted in the wind long enough to qualify for his second win.

"But every day the other pitchers on this staff take the mound, they think of themselves as No. 1 that day," he continued. "With what happened yesterday" -- when Carpenter came out after three innings, leaving the rest of the 10-inning game to relievers -- "all I could think of on the mound was giving our bullpen a break."

Pineiro couldn't ignore the gift of a victory on a day he was dishing out five runs in as many innings.

"All the credit goes to the offense," he said. "It wasn't a good day to take a sinker out there with you."

Or any other kind of pitch: Of the nine pitchers to appear in the game, Chris Perez, recalled by the Cards from Triple-A Memphis in the morning, was the only one who pitched more than one inning without allowing any runs to score.

"A very difficult day," Cardinals manager Tony La Russa said.

He was definitely alluding to pitchers' lots, not to hitters.

The key blow of a game-breaking five-run third, the first of two times the Cards batted around, was Chris Duncan's two-out, two-run double into the right-center-field gap that gave St. Louis a 6-0 lead.

Molina also drove in two runs, and Ryan Ludwick's three RBIs paced the attack as the Cards scored a season high in runs.

On a blustery day when Chase Field's roof was open, the two teams combined for 14 extra-base hits among their total of 23.

"We're just out to win series," said the scalding Ludwick, who stretched his two-season hitting streak to 18 games. "We've been playing good baseball. Every day, everyone here takes the field ready to play."

The key moment of Wednesday's game may have come in the third, when Albert Pujols drew an intentional walk, and Ludwick, batting behind him in the cleanup spot, responded with an RBI single.

Protecting the frightening Pujols figures to be paramount to the Cardinals' long-term success.

Ludwick, who occasionally batted behind Pujols last season, said giving the first baseman protection is "critical."

"He's the best hitter in the game," Ludwick said. "Everyone is frightened of him. If no one hits behind him, he'll get walked every time."

Pineiro (2-0) might've lost too much wind on his straight steal of second in that productive top of the third -- he was rocked for four extra-base hits and four runs in the bottom -- but he regained himself to last five innings for the victory. The right-hander was charged with nine hits and five runs, walking three and striking out three.

The stolen base was a career first for Pineiro, in his 255th game. It tied him with Molina, of the renowned slow-footed Molina brothers.

"Well, we'll see how that ends up," said Pineiro, smiling.

Molina had given the Cards an early 1-0 lead by ending a fabulous second-inning at-bat -- nine pitches, three two-strike fouls -- with an RBI single.

The catcher wound up 3-for-3 (with a walk), but in his manager's view, the catcher did his best work with his beleaguered pitchers.

"He had a heck of a day," La Russa said. "It was a difficult day for pitchers, and he kept reminding them that it was all about the next hitter, the next pitch."

There were 353 pitches in the game, 152 of which missed the strike zone, and 23 others which were hit very hard.

The Cardinals, who were hit the hardest with Carpenter's injury Tuesday night, hit back often.

The pride showed on their manager's face.

"Our guys .... every at-bat, they fight it. How can you not be pleased?" La Russa said.

Tom Singer is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


Good win for the Cards, but losing Carp for 4-8 weeks can be crucial. We really needed him in the series we have coming up against the Cubs. Hopefully theCards can keep lpaying as well as they have and take this series.
 
I mean........Carp is only 1 person. Wainwright could be as good as carpenter if he can start locating his pitches........Lohse has been looking good andpineiro was O.K. until the other day when they rocked him a bit.
 
4-8 weeks? What is the injury exactly, a rib strain, or a cartilidge tear or something?

I guess look at it this way, it will keep wear and tear off his arm for another month or two, maybe that gets a little stronger while he's resting. Couldhelp him later on.


Let's get game one today.
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pacmagic2002 wrote:
I mean........Carp is only 1 person. Wainwright could be as good as carpenter if he can start locating his pitches........Lohse has been looking good and pineiro was O.K. until the other day when they rocked him a bit.
Carpenter when healthy is better than anyone on our entire pitching staff and is a leader in the clubhouse, so he is more than just 1 person. Themorale he brings is very valuable to our club, unlike that ticking time bomb Pinero.
 
Originally Posted by THE SAUNA

Cubs vs. Cards.. lets go!

Yesssir.

And I heard that Milton is only out a few more games, not 3-4 weeks like i was lead to believe.
 
Originally Posted by arstyle27

Originally Posted by THE SAUNA

Cubs vs. Cards.. lets go!

Yesssir.

And I heard that Milton is only out a few more games, not 3-4 weeks like i was lead to believe.
he needs to stop rushing back...imo come back at 100% if not he'll be on the dl for good this season with a groin strain...
 
Duncan with a 2 run tater....just made it above the basket......crap and a half.
 
That was ball 4 without a doubt, Milton should of swung at the umpire so he could get suspended and rest that groin
 
Bradley did the right thing, 3-0 bases loaded, make the pitcher throw 3 straight strikes. Wainright did, tip your cap.

Sori at 3-1, shoulda taken the next two also. Gotta make the pitcher throw those pressure pitches one after another like that, don't let him off the hook.
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[h3]Cardinals pull away late to top Cubs[/h3]Duncan homers, drives in three; Molina belts tiebreaker


By Matthew Leach / MLB.com

04/16/09 5:35 PM ET
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CHICAGO -- Yadier Molina hit a tie-breaking single in the seventh inning and Chris Duncan homered and drove in three runs as the Cardinals beat the Cubs, 7-4, in a typically wild battle between the two old rivals at Wrigley Field on Thursday.

St. Louis took a 3-1 lead against starter Sean Marshall on the strength of a Ryan Ludwick RBI single and Duncan's two-run homer. But Kosuke Fukudome hit a three-run shot off of starter Adam Wainwright, who once again was not particularly sharp, giving the Cubs the lead in the fifth. The Redbirds tied the game on a Khalil Greene homer in the sixth before rallying in the seventh.

That made a winner of Wainwright, who allowed four runs on six hits over six innings. Wainwright struck out six but once again had to search for his best command. He issued four walks, giving him 12 in three starts in 2009. That's more than he allowed in any four consecutive starts in 2008.

Kyle McClellan pitched two near-perfect innings of relief for St. Louis, striking out two and not allowing a ball to leave the infield. The only baserunner against McClellan came when Fukudome reached on an error to lead off the seventh inning.

The Cardinals improved to 8-3 on the year, two games ahead of the Cubs in the National League Central.

Matthew Leachis a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Great win, for a moment I thought they were going to let the game slip through their fingers.
 
Great win by the cards today......wainwright still letting leadoff hitters get on base.....w is a w anyway. Barden is coming to his own.....I don't knowwho they should start at 3rd base....thursten and barden are both pretty good on the field and at the plate. Duncan is coming along niecly too........ is thecubs bullpen bad???
 
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