OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?

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He going to have the early 2000 all-stars as his starting five:

Jason Kidd

Vince Carter

Antoine Walker

Dirk Nowitzki

Shaquille O'Neal

Funny thing is, its not that far away.
 
if butler was healthy n dirk didnt get hurt n miss a couple of those games well be in the first seed n well be singing a different tune right about now
 
I couldn't believe it when I saw that half time score. That was another Mavs game I wish I was able to see
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Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Why Dirk & Nash decided to be loyal to those teams this summer I have no clue, those dudes showed loyalty for no reason and they'll regret it when their both sitting at home soon enough.
Same thing I said about Dirk when he was a FA and resigned out of loyalty and I been thinking the same about Nash and to a lesser extent Grant Hill. Dudes still got some left in the tank but want to waste time and tough it out for when the team is good and possibly championship caliber contenders
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Tyson and Marc would be 1st options but there not going anywhere.

Yao makes no sense even if he was healthy we need a guy to be a defensive force at Center at Yao isn't going to do that.  I'm not saying you sign Oden but I would def bring him in for a physical/workout and see where he is...The guy is 23 and could be very cheap possibly.  And when he has played he has been the second best center defensively after Dwight.  Signing Oden is swinging for the fences and to be honest, that are the moves we made by getting 'Melo/
I just think going after Oden is about out of the question. Yeah he's young but is there any hope? Those other serviceable centers I mentioned are at least a sure thing and you know what we're getting. Oden isn't swinging for the fences, that's just complete utter desperation on the door step of if it works good if not oh well
 
Originally Posted by kiddwill58

if butler was healthy n dirk didnt get hurt n miss a couple of those games well be in the first seed n well be singing a different tune right about now

yea keep telling yourself that
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Originally Posted by NobleKane

Originally Posted by kiddwill58

if butler was healthy n dirk didnt get hurt n miss a couple of those games well be in the first seed n well be singing a different tune right about now
yea keep telling yourself that
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Ehh, I kind of have to agree that we'd at least be a lot closer than we are right now. I'd say we'd be where the Lakers are at now.

When Butler and Dirk went out, we went 2-7 against some VERY easy teams.

Losing Butler was the biggest blow to our season. We completely went out of sync after he went down.
 
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

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He going to have the early 2000 all-stars as his starting five:

Jason Kidd

Vince Carter

Antoine Walker

Dirk Nowitzki

Shaquille O'Neal

Funny thing is, its not that far away.

You are just recklessly reaching now
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dallas still has a good squad though and they're looking better since spurs got injuries. on the other hand dejuan blair lookin kinda nice
 
Spurs were cruising with Duncan (who will be back to 100% by the post-season). Why are they being counted out?
 
JPZx wrote:
Spurs were cruising with Duncan (who will be back to 100% by the post-season). Why are they being counted out?
Me personally, I see them as the team that got swept last year.  Beat like a drum the year before that, and shredded by LA the season before that.  

So to me, they're even older now and they changed their approach during the season to a fast paced, run and gun type offense during the regular season.  Shoot tons of 3's, run up and down, well, come playoff time, and we all know it moves to slower paced, half court games, are they going to simply slow down and give it to 34 year old Tim Duncan and let him carry them?  And most smart defenses will double him, force the shots to be kicked out to RJ and Bonner and guys like that, close out and make them put the ball on the floor and take long 2's instead of their comfy 3's and what'dya have? 

If they play Memphis, I think they survive, if Rudy G was playing, I would REALLY take a hard look at that series, but I think they'll get past Memphis if they meet.  But then they could face OKC, and if that happens, I could see OKC upsetting them.  

And my last factor is, they just went balls out for 6 months, now people are going to ask them to play top level for another 2 and a half months.  I just don't see that as being likely.  Duncan and Manu are simply a slight tweak away from not being 100% which has limited them the past 3 years if you listen to their people. 

So *shrugs*  to me they are pretenders.  Will they prove me wrong?  Maybe.  I've been wrong plenty in my life, but I usually do pretty well spotting the teams that I think will fall apart come playoff time.  I deaded them 3 years ago, I don't see any reason to change my vote on them now. 

  
 
^Damn son you forget all about Manu? He can't carry them a game or two? or even 3? We've seen it before. Don't really think they've been playing top level for the past 6 months either. Just a style that complimented the younger and spot up jumper players. I can see them easily reverting back to that championship winning formula spurs ball with TP penetrating and Manu creating. Not that I think the spurs are winning it all. Just saying.

Been thinking for a while now it's either the Lakers or Thunder coming out the West.
 
Originally Posted by NobleKane

Originally Posted by kiddwill58

if butler was healthy n dirk didnt get hurt n miss a couple of those games well be in the first seed n well be singing a different tune right about now

yea keep telling yourself that
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%!%!
 
Originally Posted by JPZx

Spurs were cruising with Duncan (who will be back to 100% by the post-season). Why are they being counted out?
Their defense more than anything else would worry me.

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[h1]Rodney Stuckey Benched By His Coach Again[/h1]

It’s tough to envision both Stuckey and head coach John Kuester working together in Motown once this dreadful season comes to an end. The Detroit News has the latest: “Pistons guard Rodney Stuckey refused to enter the fourth quarter of Friday’s game against the Bulls, and he did not play in Sunday’s 101-90 loss to the Boston Celtics. According to a source familiar with the situation, Stuckey’s benching Sunday was discipline by coach John Kuester for refusing to enter the game Friday. ‘This is a growing process, and we’ve had a slight setback,’ Kuester said after the game of Stuckey not playing … Friday, Stuckey started the fourth quarter and was removed for Tayshaun Prince with six minutes remaining. Kuester called for Stuckey to come in two minutes later, but the guard refused to re-enter … After Sunday’s game, Stuckey repeatedly said ‘there are six games left.’ ‘That’s all I have to say,’ said Stuckey when pressed about it. ‘Six games left. That’s it. I can survive for six games.’ Stuckey, who will turn 25 in three weeks, is a restricted free agent at the end of the season, meaning the Pistons can match any offer if he chooses to sign with another club. ‘Absolutely,’ said Stuckey when asked if he wanted to return. ‘At the end of the year I have to sit down with my agent, do what we have to do. But yeah, I want to return. I’m very comfortable here. I love the community, I help out a lot around here.’ Stuckey was benched earlier in the season for ignoring Kuester during a game in Atlanta. Last month, he and Kuester got into it again before the team headed to San Antonio. Stuckey didn’t start and played 15 minutes that night.
 
Can't believe I am doing this, but here's something that Ric Bucher of all people says that makes a lot of sense which Hollinger of course forgets to mention since it's not in his own personal made up stats. 


Here's one example of why I can't put Dwight Howard at the top of my MVP ballot: on Monday, vs. the Knicks, in the final five minutes, the NYK guarded him, 1 v. 1, with Jared Jeffries and Shelden Williams. They did that because teams know that Dwight does not want to go to the free-throw line with a game on the line and is not going to be the same aggressive Dwight he is in the first three quarters. They figure they can just foul him if he does make an aggressive move and he knows it, so he settles for jump hooks and more perimeter-oriented shots. What all this does is force the Magic to play a different way than they've been playing for most of the game *when the game is to be decided.* It's a huge advantage for every opponent to be able to play him straight up. Never mind how deflating it is for a Magic team to see their star suddenly passive at the most crucial time of the game.
 
But isn't Dwight shooting a better percentage from the line in the 4th quarter this season? I've watched that game 3 times. I can't say ORL played differently from their inside out offense in the 4th or in OT.

Somebody pull up his shot selection in the 4th and OT. All inside. Just cuz he aint getting dunks every possession doesn't mean he doesn't want to. Maybe the Knicks defense were good enough that one time and had help from the refs.

Ric will have to find a lot more evidence to support his Dwight plays scared, doesn't want a lot of contact/settles for jump hooks cuz he doesn't want to be fouled when the game is on the line theory.
 
I thought the Raptors getting layups when Dwight Howard was resting the first few minutes of the fourth quarter yesterday showed why he was MVP and DPOY.

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@deepsixer3 Lou [Williams] says he's out for the regular season. Says he "hopes" to be ready for playoffs.

Big blow to the Sixers. They picked up Antonio Daniels (Yes, THAT Antonio Daniels) to make up for the loss of Williams.
 
Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Why Dirk & Nash decided to be loyal to those teams this summer I have no clue, those dudes showed loyalty for no reason and they'll regret it when their both sitting at home soon enough.
Same thing I said about Dirk when he was a FA and resigned out of loyalty and I been thinking the same about Nash and to a lesser extent Grant Hill. Dudes still got some left in the tank but want to waste time and tough it out for when the team is good and possibly championship caliber contenders
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If either one of them asks out there will be no shortage of teams willing to trade for them...

Was Miami going to take Dirk over Bosh? No. Was Chicago a good fit? Not really. The Lakers, Magic, Celtics or Spurs couldn't have signed Dirk.. Where else could he have gone without taking a significant pay cut when there's no need whatsoever for him to at the age of 32?

Nash is a different story, but he still had no reason to walk away from a load of money to chase a ring yet.
 
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Lemme ask yall....

What's your honest opinion as to why Denver is surging minus Melo?  You would think that with all the new players the acquired, struggles would ensue.  ESPECIALLY after losing a player of Melo's talent.  On the flip, Melo has been scoring in NY...but the team hasn't performed up to expectations.  This is what he wanted....and the pressure is only going to intensify with each year that passes minus a championship. 

NY Daily News already had an article calling Melo, Marbury 2.0 LOL

Marbury 2.0


*Oh yeah....Jordan Crawford 23/5/3

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IMO the nuggets got the better of this deal so they should be doing better.  less standing around watching, more people involved, better chemistry (you know the melo thing over their head had to be on their minds all season), etc.  new york in all honesty gave up too much.  they were a better team the way they were, but after an off season and bringing in more players they'll probably be ok. 
 
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Why Dirk & Nash decided to be loyal to those teams this summer I have no clue, those dudes showed loyalty for no reason and they'll regret it when their both sitting at home soon enough.
Same thing I said about Dirk when he was a FA and resigned out of loyalty and I been thinking the same about Nash and to a lesser extent Grant Hill. Dudes still got some left in the tank but want to waste time and tough it out for when the team is good and possibly championship caliber contenders
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If either one of them asks out there will be no shortage of teams willing to trade for them...

Was Miami going to take Dirk over Bosh? No. Was Chicago a good fit? Not really. The Lakers, Magic, Celtics or Spurs couldn't have signed Dirk.. Where else could he have gone without taking a significant pay cut when there's no need whatsoever for him to at the age of 32?

Nash is a different story, but he still had no reason to walk away from a load of money to chase a ring yet.

If Dirk had committed to being a free agent, the landscape of this summer would have changed so its stupid to say anything now about him not fitting.  And why wouldn't he work in Chicago, don't see why he could fit in there.  And there were other places, #!%+ he could have signed with Nash in phoenix even, they did have the cap room at the time.
 
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Why Dirk & Nash decided to be loyal to those teams this summer I have no clue, those dudes showed loyalty for no reason and they'll regret it when their both sitting at home soon enough.
Same thing I said about Dirk when he was a FA and resigned out of loyalty and I been thinking the same about Nash and to a lesser extent Grant Hill. Dudes still got some left in the tank but want to waste time and tough it out for when the team is good and possibly championship caliber contenders
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If either one of them asks out there will be no shortage of teams willing to trade for them...

Was Miami going to take Dirk over Bosh? No. Was Chicago a good fit? Not really. The Lakers, Magic, Celtics or Spurs couldn't have signed Dirk.. Where else could he have gone without taking a significant pay cut when there's no need whatsoever for him to at the age of 32?

Nash is a different story, but he still had no reason to walk away from a load of money to chase a ring yet.
In the sense that he's trying to get the max, NYK. I mentioned it back then. Not that just Amar'e and Dirk are championship caliber but we'd still have the pieces to keep or trade for Melo or DWill which imo is championship caliber and a great chance of coming out of the east but this is all after the fact anyway. This only comes about if Dirk does express that he'd go elsewhere. Cuz that would've changed the summer of 2010 for a lot of teams and their future plans.

Nash should've seen the writing on the wall when Amar'e left. The Suns did not replace that hole with anyone. Literally. So where as the talk was Amar'e is nothing without Nash he's in the playoffs while Nash will be resting early this year.
 
Nash is still leading the league in assists though and having a phenomenal year though...If his team was in the east they would be in the playoffs as well.
 
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Why Dirk & Nash decided to be loyal to those teams this summer I have no clue, those dudes showed loyalty for no reason and they'll regret it when their both sitting at home soon enough.

I remember thinking the same thing.
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cjbruns1974 wrote:

 they were a better team the way they were

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amazing how people act like the knicks broke up the 98 bulls all of a sudden.

they were better before? ummm no. same exact problems. lack of defense, bad coaching, lack up size. melo is better than gallo, chanlder, or felton would ever become. If anything we got a serviceable center in sheldon and a go to guy in melo. Even Carter been logging good minutes. Chauncey playing better too. He was just injured.

hate to break it to people but denver is winning because they are deep as hell and had a great team to begin with. Not because gallo and felton are amazing players all of a sudden.
 
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