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So JAY-Z traded the top 3 protected first rounder for Gerald Wallace who opted out? I don't think he's taken an L this bad since Nas dropped ETHER
Official 2012 NBA Draft Thread
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Tanking isn't quite as easy as people are saying. I mean the players on the floor always try to d their best so they can get paid next contract.
To tank proper you'd have to trade away good players or not sign any good ones. It's an institutional thing for sure.
I wanted the wiz to get the pick when it came down to those three. But then I realized they in the Knicks confrence so I'm good with him going to new orleans
To tank proper you'd have to trade away good players or not sign any good ones. It's an institutional thing for sure.
I wanted the wiz to get the pick when it came down to those three. But then I realized they in the Knicks confrence so I'm good with him going to new orleans
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The lottery results are in and the New Orleans Hornets are the big winners of this year's draft lottery. That means it's time for Mock Draft 5.0.
At this point very little is set in stone, so expect our mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next four weeks. The Chicago NBA predraft combine, the adidas Eurocamp and hundreds of team workouts will dramatically alter the face of the draft.
But here's our best stab for now, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, on how the draft might play out on June 28.
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New Orleans
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Anthony Davis
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-10
Weight: 220 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: What a huge win for the Hornets. They lost a superstar this year (Chris Paul) and then replace him with Davis. Pair him with Eric Gordon and New Orleans has a very strong foundation to build upon.
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Charlotte
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Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-7
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 18
School: Kentucky[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: This is a major blow for the Bobcats. Kidd-Gilchrist is the second-best player in this draft and will add toughness and leadership. Michael Jordan wants winners and Kidd-Gilchrist is a winner.
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Washington
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Bradley Beal
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-5
Weight: 195 pounds
Age: 18
School: Florida[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Beal is a great get for the Wizards. The team could really use a dominant 2-guard to pair with John Wall. Beal is a very good fit who should be able to step in and contribute right away.
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Cleveland
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Harrison Barnes
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-8
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: North Carolina[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Thomas Robinson may be the best player left on the board but he's not a great fit with Tristan Thompson. The Cavs loved Barnes last year and I think they'll roll the dice on him again this year.
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Sacramento
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Thomas Robinson
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-9
Weight: 237 pounds
Age: 21
School: Kansas[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Kings need toughness and athleticism on their front line and Robinson delivers both. He could help Sacramento turn around its culture.
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Portland (via Nets)
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Andre Drummond
[/td][td]cdth C
cdth 6-foot-11
Weight: 275 pounds
Age: 18
School: UConn[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Blazers need size and Drummond is huge. He's a major project, but in the right team environment, Drummond could be another Andrew Bynum.
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Golden State
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Jared Sullinger
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-9
Weight: 280 pounds
Age: 20
School: Ohio State[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Warriors may be tempted by Perry Jones III, but I think they will instead go with a more proven player to help them on their front line. I hear the Warriors are quite high on Sully.
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Toronto
[/td][td]
Dion Waiters
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-4
Weight: 215 pounds
Age: 20
School: Syracuse[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Raptors are filled with a roster of mostly soft jump shooters. What they really need is a tough player who can get to the basket and get his own shot at the end of games. They need a true scorer. DeMar DeRozan might get there someday, but Waiters is there right now. The fact that Waiters can also play some point guard is a bonus. He could go anywhere from No. 6 to No. 15 on draft night.
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Detroit
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John Henson
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-10
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 21
School: North Carolina[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Greg Monroe has been a revelation in the middle for the Pistons, but they really need to pair him alongside an athletic shot blocker. Although Henson is painfully thin, he rebounds, blocks shots and defends multiple positions. It wouldn't be a perfect solution in Detroit, but the Pistons don't have a lot of other options here.
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New Orleans
(via Wolves)
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Damian Lillard
[/td][td]cdth PG
cdth 6-foot-2
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 21
School: Weber State[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Hornets lost their star point guard to the Clippers in a trade at the beginning of the season and had to piece it together this season. While Lillard is no CP3, he's the best point guard int he draft and should be a terrific pick. Lillard could go as high as No. 6.
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Portland
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Jeremy Lamb
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-5
Weight: 185 pounds
Age: 19
School: UConn[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Blazers really need a center or a point guard. But with Lillard off the board, I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the trigger on Lamb, who could go anywhere from No. 6 to No. 13 on draft night. Portland's scouting staff has been high on him all year and, while he wouldn't fill a primary need, he has the talent to eventually earn a spot as the team's starting 2-guard.
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Milwaukee
[/td][td]
Perry Jones III
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-11
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 20
School: Baylor[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Bucks gambled a few years ago on Brandon Jennings and it paid off big time. At this point in the draft, Jones is less risk and more reward.
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Phoenix
[/td][td]
Terrence Ross
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-6
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 21
School: Washington[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Suns need a little bit of everything, but they have a major hole at the 2-guard position. Ross has potential star power -- he is a great athlete, has good size and can really stroke the basketball. He'd be a nice addition in Phoenix.
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Houston
[/td][td]
Tyler Zeller
[/td][td]cdth C
cdth 7-foot
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: North Carolina[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Rockets' biggest need is in the middle and Zeller should be a solid option. Scouts don't think Zeller is going to be an All-Star someday, but he's big, he runs the floor very well and he has a great touch around the basket. Zeller should ultimately land somewhere between picks 8 and 14.
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Philadelphia
[/td][td]
Arnett Moultrie
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-11
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 21
School: Mississippi State[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Sixers need big athletes and Moultrie might be a great fit. He's long and athletic, he rebounds and he can stretch the floor with his jumper. Moultrie could be one of the real sleepers in the draft.
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Houston (via Knicks)
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Terrence Jones
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-8
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Jones is a bit of an enigma. He could go as high as No. 7 or he could slide to here. No one doubts his talent; they're just not sure what position he would play in the pros and whether he'll be willing to put in the work to be great. At this point in the draft, though, he's worth the risk.
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Dallas
[/td][td]
Kendall Marshall
[/td][td]cdth PG
cdth 6-foot-4
Weight: 188 pounds
Age: 20
School: North Carolina[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: With Jason Kidd 39 and a free agent, and Rodrigue Beaubois more of a combo guard, Marshall would bring much of what Kidd brings to the table -- incredible court vision and size -- right away. He's not a great athlete or a great shooter, but he could keep Dirk and company happy.
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Wolves (via Jazz)
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Austin Rivers
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-4
Weight: 199 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Wolves' biggest need is at the 2 and Rivers could be a great get here. He can really shoot the basketball and has a killer crossover. He's going to have to get comfortable playing off the ball, but playing with Ricky Rubio could really help his game.
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Orlando
[/td][td]
Meyers Leonard
[/td][td]cdth C
cdth 7-foot
Weight: 240 pounds
Age: 20
School: Illinois[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Magic are in serious danger of losing Dwight Howard in the next year. Leonard is a far cry from Howard, but he's big, he's athletic and he has shown some raw promise, especially on the defensive end.
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Denver
[/td][td]
Moe Harkless
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-8
Weight: 190 pounds
Age: 18
School: St. John's[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Nuggets don't have any glaring needs right now, which gives them the luxury of taking the best player left on the board. We've had Quincy Miller here the past few mock drafts, but there seems to be a growing consensus that Harkless might be the better prospect.
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Boston
[/td][td]
Fab Melo
[/td][td]cdth C
cdth 7-foot
Weight: 274 pounds
Age: 21
School: Syracuse[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Celtics are in desperate need of size. While Melo is miles away from being ready, he is big and can block shots and rebound. If he stays focused and in shape, he could be good value here.
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Boston (via Clippers)
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Andrew Nicholson
[/td][td]cdth PF
cdth 6-foot-9
Weight: 222 pounds
Age: 22
School: St. Bonaventure[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Nicholson is another draft sleeper who may really rise with workouts. He's big stretch 4 who has drawn some comparisons to David West. He would be another welcome addition to the Celtics' summer makeover.
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Atlanta
[/td][td]
Tony Wroten Jr.
[/td][td]cdth PG
cdth 6-foot-5
Weight: 205 pounds
Age: 18
School: Washington[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Hawks have been cursed at the point guard position ever since they decided to pass on Chris Paul to draft Marvin Williams. Wroten is no CP3, but he may have the most talent of any point guard in the draft. He's big, he's athletic and he can get to the basket. If his shot wasn't broken, and if he had a better rep as a teammate, he'd be a top-10 pick.
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Cavs (via Lakers)
[/td][td]
Quincy Miller
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-9
Weight: 210 pounds
Age: 19
School: Baylor[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Miller is an enigma. He began the season as a top-10 prospect, but struggled to overcome the effects of an ACL injury and never quite found his rhythm. If he finds his stride, this could be the steal of the draft for Cleveland.
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Memphis
[/td][td]
Evan Fournier
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-7
Weight: 206 pounds
Age: 19
School: France[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: I'm hearing the Grizzlies are looking to stash a player over in Europe this year. Fournier, a scoring wing from France, is the best European prospect on the board.
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Indiana
[/td][td]
Marquis Teague
[/td][td]cdth PG
cdth 6-foot-2
Weight: 178 pounds
Age: 19
School: Kentucky[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: Not only do the Pacers need more help at the point, but Teague is an Indy native who would be a great get here. He's not the pure point guard the Pacers really need, but he can push the ball effectively, get to the basket and create problems as a defender. Picking Teague could make Darren Collison a very interesting trade chip in July.
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Miami
[/td][td]
Draymond Green
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-6
Weight: 235 pounds
Age: 22
School: Michigan State[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Heat need players with experience who excel in bringing out the best in their teammates. Green can be a point-forward type who does a little of everything. Think of him as a better-passing Udonis Haslem.
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Oklahoma City
[/td][td]
Jeff Taylor
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-7
Weight: 225 pounds
Age: 22
School: Vanderbilt[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: An elite athlete, Taylor can be a lockdown defender and has range on his jumper. He's probably undervalued at this point, but that happens to seniors. The Thunder will capitalize.
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Chicago
[/td][td]
John Jenkins
[/td][td]cdth SG
cdth 6-foot-4
Weight: 215 pounds
Age: 21
School: Vanderbilt[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: The Bulls need a shooter and Jenkins has one of the best strokes in the draft. His super-quick release and ability to finish at the basket make him an interesting prospect here.
[table][tr][th=""]PICK[/th][th=""]TEAM[/th][th=""]PLAYER[/th][th=""]VITALS[/th][/tr][tr][td]
Golden State
(via Spurs)
[/td][td]
Royce White
[/td][td]cdth SF
cdth 6-foot-8
Weight: 240 pounds
Age: 20
School: Iowa State[/td][/tr][/table]
Analysis: White, on talent alone, is a top-10 pick. But he's slipping a bit as teams worry that his anxiety disorder could disrupt his development. At pick 30, he's worth the risk.
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how did stern screw the hornets?
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I'm not going to say the conspiracy theory is factual... but its hard to argue it when
2012: New Orleans gets the number 1 overall pick as soon as someone finally buys the team and loses their best player via trade the year prior.
2011: Cleveland gets the #1 after their best player (arguably the biggest name player in the game) leaves the team in free agency the year prior (not to mention the #4 pick as well)
2010: Washington gets the #1 overall the same year their longtime owner passes away (10.3% chance)
2008: Chicago gets #1 overall with just a 1.7% chance... the same year the best player in NCAA basketball is a Chicago product and the city needed a marquee player
And these are just a few examples... but I'm just saying...
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Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ
Hell no, then we'd just be rewarding bottom of the barrel teams for purposely tanking. There's just too many games in the reg season to do it like the NFL does.
Tanking already exists though.
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why would ford have toronto going with waiters when they have derozan. wouldn't they use that pick to fill another need.
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who said he did?
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Washington reportedly wanta to trade their pick. They tried to deal him to us for tyrus earlier. Id do blatche and the 3 for tyrus and one of our 1sts next yr. Then amnesty blatche
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I would be really happy if Thomas Robinson slipped to 5.
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I doubt the Wizards want to abort the 2013 season.
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No matter who won it people would be saying it was a conspiracy theory though...
Eric Gordon is somewhere smiling right now
Greasy-Gordon-Ant, Big Three
Eric Gordon is somewhere smiling right now
Greasy-Gordon-Ant, Big Three
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Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
No matter who won it people would be saying it was a conspiracy theory though...
Eric Gordon is somewhere smiling right now
Greasy-Gordon-Ant, Big Three
doesn't gordon want out?
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Drummond to the Blazers?
Insure those knees.
Insure those knees.
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Rivers to the Wolves
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Originally Posted by henz0
Rivers to the Wolves
watch doc rivers try everything to have his son be a celtic
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He's restricted I believe...And I think Anthony Davis is more than enough to change his mind.Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
No matter who won it people would be saying it was a conspiracy theory though...
Eric Gordon is somewhere smiling right now
Greasy-Gordon-Ant, Big Three
doesn't gordon want out?
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For Tyrus?
Memphis has a better deal. I do know that our front office loves Beal and I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade up and get him.
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Originally Posted by PatentBoy23
makes perfect sense. I was just gonna say maybe Stern gave the Cavs the 4th pick to appease Gilbert, who was adamantly against the NO-LA deal with Paul.
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I never ever at any point in time though damn Dion Waiters is a top 10 pick. Kill. Me. Now.
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Don't worry, Chad Ford's just wrong.
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And no one sure thought Quincy Miller was but you still hyped him to the end of the Earth...Waiters was the best player on the second best team in basketball, he can be a very good bench scorer in the league.
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NBA and integrity should never be in the same sentence again (besides this one). It just makes it way too damn obvious.
