OFFICIAL 2015 NBA PLAYOFF THREAD (NBA FINALS SET; GSW V. CLE - (But we have a whole week before the

[jape]

smush parker > chatty patty > mario chalmers > chris paul

 

[sea manup]

 
smush parker > chatty patty > mario chalmers > chris paul

no love for chris quinn? 

 

[grandtheftbike]

Chris Quinn scares me tbh

 

[IATT]

All defensive teams are a joke (see Chris Paul this year).. And all star games starters are a popularity contest

 

[noblekane]

Hey, whatever happened to outtacontrol?

Died and reincarnated as finallyfamous

 

[mister friendly]

 

 

 

 

kareem > mj



as a NCAA player, NBA player and as an actor 

Duncan > Kareem



Duncan > Kobe

I agree



Duncan is above Kobe in basically every empirical measure besides points

you mean kobe is above duncan in all stats that generally favour guards (points, assists, steals, ft%)


and duncan is above kobe in all stats that generally favour big men (rebounds, blocks, fg%)

Duncan has more MVPs, more NBA FMVPs, more all NBA defensive selections,he's ranked higher in his respective categories, higher overall production, a Rookie of the Year award

kobe has more all star selections, all NBA first team selections, all defensive first time selections, better head to head in the playoffs, played in more finals series


not sure where you are getting "basically every empirical measure besides points" from 

All Star selections? Kobe has got gifted his last 2

One more first team All NBA defensive selections but short 3 overall? Ok

The head to head and NBA Finals there was another guy on his team named Shaq

An all time great who was more statistically dominant than Kobe was during the Lakers championship run

You know some people say Kobe was his sidekick

The empirical measure is that Duncan is ranked higher on the all time lists in position respective stats vs Kobes rank in his respective position stats

 

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matt maloney > chris quinn > steve blake > the wizards

 

[rck3sactown]

Mike Penberthy tho

 

[darthska]

Boobie

 

[sea manup]

All Star selections? Kobe has got gifted his last 2

One more first team All NBA defensive selections but short 3 overall? Ok

The head to head and NBA Finals there was another guy on his team named Shaq

An all time great who was more statistically dominant than Kobe was during the Lakers championship run

You know some people say Kobe was his sidekick

The empirical measure is that Duncan is ranked higher on the all time lists in position respective stats vs Kobes rank in his respective position stats

annnd here come the excuses 

but but shaq

but but first teams dont mean as much 

 

[jape]

mateen cleaves > 

 

[sea manup]

 
sun yue > matt maloney > chris quinn > steve blake > the wizards

fixed 

 

[jape]

ok im done

 

[rck3sactown]

Mengke Bateer

 

[mister friendly]

All Star selections? Kobe has got gifted his last 2


One more first team All NBA defensive selections but short 3 overall? Ok


The head to head and NBA Finals there was another guy on his team named Shaq


An all time great who was more statistically dominant than Kobe was during the Lakers championship run


You know some people say Kobe was his sidekick


The empirical measure is that Duncan is ranked higher on the all time lists in position respective stats vs Kobes rank in his respective position stats

annnd here come the excuses 

but but shaq

but but first teams dont mean as much 

Shaq was more dominant than Kobe during the Lakers run

Those are facts

Its fine....Kobe had his place in those runs

I never said first teams don't count

 

[darthska]

Master P > [insert NBA point guard here]

 

[sea manup]

Master P > [insert NBA point guard here]

i would trade swaggy p for master p in a heart beat 

 

[sea manup]

 

 

All Star selections? Kobe has got gifted his last 2

One more first team All NBA defensive selections but short 3 overall? Ok

The head to head and NBA Finals there was another guy on his team named Shaq


An all time great who was more statistically dominant than Kobe was during the Lakers championship run


You know some people say Kobe was his sidekick


The empirical measure is that Duncan is ranked higher on the all time lists in position respective stats vs Kobes rank in his respective position stats

annnd here come the excuses 

but but shaq

but but first teams dont mean as much 

Shaq was more dominant than Kobe during the Lakers run

Those are facts

Its fine....Kobe had his place in those runs

I never said first teams don't count

he was for most series but kobe was always dominant in series vs tim and the spurs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1999_WCS_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2001_WCF_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_WCS_SAS-LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2003_WCS_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_WCS_LAL-SAS.html

and that's not even mentioning the gentlemen's sweep of duncan and the spurs in 08 

 

[frink85]

Mike Penberthy tho

repped

My man straight outta The Masters College

 

[bravelude]

kobe nevwr dominated anything lol. if so u midas whale say the same for WB and AI. Lettuce reoncile this for a bit. Kobe only had his way in Colorado, but not on the court. Sorry.

Artest, The Machine, Horry, Gasol, and Shaq all bailed Kobe out. Kobe couldn‘t save a roach for his life.

these are FAX

#post too short

 

[sea manup]

The Machine

all time great 

 

[freeze]

kobe nevwr dominated anything lol. if so u midas whale say the same for WB and AI. Lettuce reoncile this for a bit. Kobe only had his way in Colorado, but not on the court. Sorry.

Artest, The Machine, Horry, Gasol, and Shaq all bailed Kobe out. Kobe couldn‘t save a roach for his life.

these are FAX

#post too short

reported.

 

[MVP]

Being the 2nd best SG ever >>>>> being the 6th best C

 

[mister friendly]

 

 

All Star selections? Kobe has got gifted his last 2



One more first team All NBA defensive selections but short 3 overall? Ok



The head to head and NBA Finals there was another guy on his team named Shaq



An all time great who was more statistically dominant than Kobe was during the Lakers championship run



You know some people say Kobe was his sidekick



The empirical measure is that Duncan is ranked higher on the all time lists in position respective stats vs Kobes rank in his respective position stats

annnd here come the excuses 


but but shaq


but but first teams dont mean as much 

Shaq was more dominant than Kobe during the Lakers run


Those are facts


Its fine....Kobe had his place in those runs


I never said first teams don't count

he was for most series but kobe was always dominant in series vs tim and the spurs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1999_WCS_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2001_WCF_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_WCS_SAS-LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2003_WCS_LAL-SAS.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_WCS_LAL-SAS.html


and that's not even mentioning the gentlemen's sweep of duncan and the spurs in 08 

By dominant you mean scoring more points

If Kobe averages 26 ppg on 46 % shooting and Shaq averages 23 ppg while 64 % shooting and adding 15 rebounds and 4 bpg

Who is really dominant?

The only series where Kobe is the most statistically dominant is the 2001 series

Also look at Duncan's 2nd option in some of those series

 

[sea manup]

By dominant you mean scoring more points

If Kobe averages 26 ppg on 46 % shooting and Shaq averages 23 ppg while 64 % shooting and adding 15 rebounds and 4 bpg

Who is really dominant?

The only series where Kobe is the most statistically dominant is the 2001 series

Also look at Duncan's 2nd option in some of those series

more points, leads the team in assists, true shooting % about equal (not sure where you got 64% from he has never shot that high in a series vs the spurs let alone average that much), pretty much playing point guard and running the offence

shaq was the best player in the world those years but the spurs did a good job of slowing him down

easy domination of duncan and the spurs, look at duncans 2nd option when faced with kobe's lock down D 

kobe's fg% in head to head playoff matchups is actually the exact same as duncans, of course he has better fg and 3pt% too 

see what you want to see though