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Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury
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You are the only one struggling to understand my stance
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So KD gets more flak because he chose an easier path to the finals by joining the team that beat him? That's fair. So HONOR and competition are shaping people's opinions right? If that factors into the criticism regarding KD, how is it that Lebron isn't equally *****-made if he forms a super squad in the "Leastern" Conference?
These are the kind of arbitrary opinions you guys are using and this kind of logic can go both ways. So teams gutting their rosters to have a 'chance' at signing one of the big three isn't weakening the league to you? Colluding to form a team together at the expense of other teams didn't harm competition? Using the parity argument isn't going to work. And for the record, I agree that this was the most exciting time in basketball for me as well especially going to bars to watch the playoff games was awesome so ultimately Lebron leaving was good even though it's lots of fun to bash on the Decision. Intuitively I actually believe what KD did is slightly worse than Lebron's situation but who knows if this will usher in another era of must-watch NBA? It just seems like a lot of people here have always liked Russ more than KD and now they have a legit reason to **** all over the guy.
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They challenged Boston just fine in 2010 then Bron went bizarro Bron in Game 5, playing all disengaged. Series was tired 2-2 with CLE at home. That series with ORL was close as well 3 games decided by 2 points or less. So I think your characterization is a bit off.
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The Cavs challenged the Celtics because they have LeBron. Not because the Cavs were stacked.
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my exact thoughts bro. it aint even fun to hate on him anymore. dude went out and played the way i wanted him to from day one and did what he had to do and won. i respect that all day.
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People would pick cavs to the finals back then on strength of how good Lebron was, nothing to do with his subpar supporting cast
Yes, Lebby needed more help
Yes, Lebby needed more help
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Yup,that's were that whole thing began
. It wasn't folks just talking **** like it is now,dude deadass needed more help to winMo Will and a washed Shaq and Antawn Jamison weren't getting the job done
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@yung16 is right. Bron got so much hate because he teamed up with top talents & everyone knew he was about to win several rings & there was nothing anyone could do about it. (Or so we thought)
KD's getting hate for the same reason. If Mark Jackson was still the coach and GSW was still ringless running post-ups for Klay Thompson then nobody would've cared nearly as much.
But we KNOW the Warriors are about to run over ppl for the next several years, just like Miami was supposed to.
KD's getting hate for the same reason. If Mark Jackson was still the coach and GSW was still ringless running post-ups for Klay Thompson then nobody would've cared nearly as much.
But we KNOW the Warriors are about to run over ppl for the next several years, just like Miami was supposed to.
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That reminds me. Whats funny about yall saying "who said the 60 win cavs teams sucked at the time"
Where do you think the NT joke "LeBron needs more help" started? Back in 09 and 10 when everyone said LeBrons teams sucked.
Where do you think the NT joke "LeBron needs more help" started? Back in 09 and 10 when everyone said LeBrons teams sucked.
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So Orlando in 09 who went 6 games with the Sixers and then 7 with a KG-less Celtics was a juggernaut? CLE wasn't favored in that ECF series?
And a lot of that he needs more help came AFTER the playoff flameouts, they were favored to go to the finals both years when the playoffs started.
And a lot of that he needs more help came AFTER the playoff flameouts, they were favored to go to the finals both years when the playoffs started.
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exactly. the whole thought was, yea the cavs are killin, but bron has to be a superhero every single night. hell, the teams were wild *** as soon as he went to the bench. Lemme guess, Mike Brown was an amazing coach too since he won coach of the year right? Oh. Winning makes everything look shiny. Even ****.
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No but Jameer Nelson was playing the best basketball of his life at that time and they just all got hot kind of like Dallas in 2011. Hell even Pitreaus and Turkoglu were solid contributers each night in the playoffs
Hedo even finessed that performance into a big money deal with the Raps
Hedo even finessed that performance into a big money deal with the Raps
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Yall aint got no real hate in your hearts. Hate is illogical, you dont give that **** up, you find ways to make it work.
Like this:
When the moment came and it was make or break time that ***** hid in the corner while Kyrie handled business. **** him.
He'd still be ringless if Kyrie aint black out and torch the dubs while Steph was clanking 3s and doing behind the back passes to cameramen.
That's how you hate. Probly never really had no hate in your hearts. Yall disgust me
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Mike Brown owes Lebron almost 15 million dollars.
He belongs in the scamming HOF, can't even be mad.
He belongs in the scamming HOF, can't even be mad.
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which series did Jameer get hurt? I remember Skip was running the O for the 1st few games in the finals and then everybody was mad when struggle jameer came back and threw everything off. Everybody except laker fans lol.
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So they weren't going against any all time great teams in the playoffs being the favorite in those series, and in almost every instance it wasn't until AFTER they lost that the he needs more help came up, makes sense.
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Ah yes Mike Brown. I vividly remember people saying LeBron was carrying one of the worst coaches in the league as well. Which he was.
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lmaooo my dawg. We aint fans, we just got humbled af the champagne bath. I'm sure he'll give us all new reasons to shade.
truth be told, cavs dont win **** without jr hitting 3 b2b2b 3s. but whatevs.
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What? Before 09/10 during 09/10 after 09/10 the Cavs outside of LeBron sucked and people knew it
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Shouldn't any coach with moderate to great success owe most of their check to their most talented players?
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ok, they sucked but were good enough to be picked to go to the Finals when the playoffs began both seasons. Y'all got it.
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Because they had LeBron. whats so confusing about that lol. Not because of LeBron and Mo Williams.
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noooo way. There were absolutely times during those games where the cavs were being buns and the only guys balling was bron and people said he needed more help. not just us, but kenny and chuck and them too. 'guys gotta step up' was said often.
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I dont remember when he got hurt but I remember he came back during game 1 of the finals and Skip sat almost an hour of real time before start of the third qtr. Talk about team being thrown off. If I go play pick up ball and lose and have to wait 20 minutes to get back on, i'm done. Couldnt imagine an hour:x
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