Official 2017-2018 Knicks season thread

[Upptempo]

Seems like Knicks fans in NYC look at the Grizzlies great seasons when they had 50+ wins but forget with prior coaches, they lost in the first round many times. They made the Conference Finals once before Fizdale and lost. They were already on the decline prior as well. Not like they went from 50 to 54 to 57 then Fizdale came with the same exact roster and won 35

 

[the 718 truth]

Shambles

@goldenchild9

Eligible for Fools Wildin

I’m not ecstatic about the Fizdale hire but dunno why people are freaking out about it lol. Nobody knows Marc Gasol personally to know why there was a rift between them. Maybe he complained about game planning or minutes or something that Fizdale thought was best for the team and not necessarily what Marc wanted. Bud had playoff seasons with the Hawks but he also had a trash season too. What’s the difference

Not that’s matters but that trash season came after the fire sale

 

[the 718 truth]

Seems like Knicks fans in NYC look at the Grizzlies great seasons when they had 50+ wins but forget with prior coaches, they lost in the first round many times. They made the Conference Finals once before Fizdale and lost. They were already on the decline prior as well. Not like they went from 50 to 54 to 57 then Fizdale came with the same exact roster and won 35

Perennial underachievers and the run was already over by the time they hired Fiz. Gasol and Conley were both washed already

 

[Upptempo]

Perennial underachievers and the run was already over by the time they hired Fiz. Gasol and Conley were both washed already

I had Conley on my fantasy team one year so I kept up with his injuries more and dude got hurt almost every 2-3 weeks, sometimes for weeks at a time. Then last season he missed damn near all season

 

[floodarea]

What I would like to see for the rest of off season -
Draft young
Pursue Kawai
Trade Noah
Trade Lee
Trade frank
And trade bum *** lance

Some of the dumbest **** I’ve read in this thread in awhile

 

[Upptempo]

Some of the dumbest **** I’ve read in this thread in awhile

Lol that’s surprising. I’ve seen stuff like “idk if I’d trade Frank and [insert two role players] for Kyrie. He hasn’t proven he can win without LeBron”

 

[8pm at msg]

I'm not exactly sure what it is with Fizdale but people seem to have a personal vendetta against the man.

Marc Gasol didn't get along with Dave Joerger either. Maybe he's more of a diva than people want to acknowledge and gets away with it because of whatever reason. Memphis has been trending downward since then.

Fizdale was part of an organization that won several rings. That's more than anybody already here. Some of y'all might not like Pat but last time I checked he ran a tight ship. I mean do people around the league like Fizdale just because?

He wasn't my first choice either but damn give the man a chance. If he's trash then fire away but let him do the job first.

 

[floodarea]

Lol that’s surprising. I’ve seen stuff like “idk if I’d trade Frank and [insert two role players] for Kyrie. He hasn’t proven he can win without LeBron”

It’s not even just Frank, it’s his whole list

“Draft young”?

“Pursue Kawhi”??

Those things don’t coincide together in any scenario

Dude learned absolutely nothing from the Melo saga?

Dude is talking about committing to a rebuild while also wanting to trade for Kawhi

Dude wants a rebuild but wanna trade our top 10 pick after one year

Too many dudes come up in here and ramble thinking they spitting knowledge as if they know something we don’t

Straight comedy

 

[equality]

Maybe he's more of a diva than people want to acknowledge and gets away with it because of whatever reason.

The same reason why when NHL players fight they're showing passion, but when football or basketball players fight it's thug behavior.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

 

[the 718 truth]

It could have contributed, but the Grizzlies are also ran by morons.

MIKE ******* CONLEY WAS THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY

 

[100027]

I'm not exactly sure what it is with Fizdale but people seem to have a personal vendetta against the man.

Marc Gasol didn't get along with Dave Joerger either. Maybe he's more of a diva than people want to acknowledge and gets away with it because of whatever reason. Memphis has been trending downward since then.

Fizdale was part of an organization that won several rings. That's more than anybody already here. Some of y'all might not like Pat but last time I checked he ran a tight ship. I mean do people around the league like Fizdale just because?

He wasn't my first choice either but damn give the man a chance. If he's trash then fire away but let him do the job first.

I don't think Marc Gasol's reaction was different from what you'd expect from any other star in that position. The Memphis' front office reaction to the situation was way over the top, though.

 

[nycknicks105]

Fizdale is a popular amongst the younger players in the NBA. He seems to "understand" this generation of NBA players. After the black guy Phil Jackson caused, this hire seemed more like a damage control move.

Get a coach KP can groove one and also potential free agents. I can see why they went this route, instead of someone like Mark Jackson.

 

[nycknicks105]

Bud clearly didn't want to come here if he didn't take the job

I think so too. Bud is obviously the better coach.

 

[ballinsam23]

Ofcourse were going after Lebron. Would be hilarious if he comes now.

 

[donewithjs]

And it starts....

 

[kingfoamnyc]

If KP didn't tear his knee to shreds we would have a better shot

 

[squatchnt]

Also redundant, we got Frank NT

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Burke
Frank
Tim
LeCrabdribble
KP

+ ring chasing vets

 

[d3si]

May the Fourth be with y'all

 

[kingfoamnyc]

What a trash team

 

[the 718 truth]

Oh so y’all really gonna do this Lebron thing again huh

 

[kingfoamnyc]

In February, the Memphis Grizzlies visited Barclays Center with All-Star break around the corner. Grizzlies coach David Fizdale instructed his players to pretend they were down 3-2 in a playoff series -- they needed to beat the Brooklyn Nets to force "Game 7," which would be at home against the New Orleans Pelicans two nights later.
Memphis earned a 112-103 victory. Forward Chandler Parsons, on his third team, said he had never seen a motivational technique quite like that.

Parsons, who chose Memphis in free agency partially because of Fizdale, said he appreciated the way the coach would arrange off-day activities and bring in guests to talk to the team. He said Fizdale "hits on a whole bunch of areas that I don't think none of us have really paid attention to in our career," in terms communication and mindset.

" When I first met him, he's wearing a Wu-Tang T-shirt and jeans," Parsons said. "I'm just like, this is my head coach. Like, it's kind of crazy. He's so young. He's just an awesome dude that we all respect and we all like and we want to rally around and we want to win for him."

If you have heard Fizdale talk about a topic he cares about, it is not difficult to imagine him giving a spirited speech in a locker room. Before he coached a game for the Grizzlies, he spent two months focused on a message of "culture and trust," Gasol told ESPN. When he said the referees were "not gonna rook us" in the playoffs, guard Mike Conley texted him at 4 a.m. to thank him and insisted that the players collectively pay his $30,000 fine.

"He's just real," Parsons said. "He's such a realist. He calls it how he sees it. There's no sugarcoating with him. He's got this aura and this attitude that he's young and he's cool and he knows how to relate to players, but without going nuts, without screaming, without degrading players. He has a way of getting his message across, and I think the way he delivers everything is key."

Conley got used to hearing, "Mike, you need to be the best player on the court to win tonight." The same message was routinely delivered to Gasol, encouraging him to be aggressive. He wanted the Grizzlies to start games with physicality, sometimes asking the guards to pick up their men full-court or as soon as they passed halfcourt in order to set the tone. Conley said it was never hard to take his criticism because "he's only doing it because he wants the best for you" and he does not hold grudges.

His personality is one of those that it's hard to dislike a guy like that," Conley said. "He's constantly preaching service and trying to help other people and wanting to see the next guy succeed. When you have that kind of a leader, it's easier for your team to follow. It's easy to want to jump on board and do whatever he asks you to do because you know he's on the other end trying to make sure that you are in the best position that you can be in."
Fizdale made it a point of emphasis to go to dinner with the players and their families. "My wife knows his wife, and it's like that with a lot of the players," Conley said, adding that Fizdale is always thinking of the next team get-together.

Ex-Grizzlies swingman Vince Carter said Fizdale was "very upfront and forward with everyone as far as what he expects of us," then went on to praise him for how he implemented his system. To the veteran, the most important thing for a new coach is to get players "to buy in as quickly as possible." Fizdale's job was to overhaul Memphis' style of play -- if he was going to be successful, he needed everybody to believe in him.
"He just wants to win, and his approach is all about winning, period," Carter said. "He's been to the mountaintop, so he understands what it takes as a coach to put us in the position to win. He's all about making it as easy as possible for players, whatever that entails."

Carter tweeted his displeasure shortly after Fizdale's shocking firing was announced. LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, who played for him in Miami, both tweeted that they "need answers." Judging by how some of the Grizzlies players raved about him in the not-too-distant past, it is fair to assume there are people in their locker room who feel the same way.
"He's a friend, too," Parsons said. "At the end of the day, you want to play good for him because you love him. You have a personal relationship with him outside of basketball. Not only is he a great coach, but just a great person, fun to be around, and he understands everything that we're going through off the court and he understands the positions that we need to be in to succeed on the court."

 

[you go boy]

Bud clearly didn't want to come here if he didn't take the job

i dont believe that... I dont think the offer was there imo and the job was offered to fitz instead... its over with and all irrelevant anyway since fitz is the coach now

 

[Mark Antony]

I'm not exactly sure what it is with Fizdale but people seem to have a personal vendetta against the man.

Marc Gasol didn't get along with Dave Joerger either. Maybe he's more of a diva than people want to acknowledge and gets away with it because of whatever reason. Memphis has been trending downward since then.

Fizdale was part of an organization that won several rings. That's more than anybody already here. Some of y'all might not like Pat but last time I checked he ran a tight ship. I mean do people around the league like Fizdale just because?

He wasn't my first choice either but damn give the man a chance. If he's trash then fire away but let him do the job first.

Yeah people grow and change.