Official 2017 NBA Offseason Thread: Media Days begin

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Aug 1, 2017

MJ was talking to kids at camp.

seasoned vet · Aug 1, 2017

MVP said:
Interesting thought process. I could have sworn OKC has like a top 3-5 or so winning percentage in the league since moving there along with several conference finals and a finals appearance.

Russ in one year as the guy is in the Cousins/Melo category of guys who've been the best players on there respective teams for years and been stuck in futility or not even making the playoffs all together.

CP0 being the best true point guard means exactly what, has got him or his team exactly what now a decade plus into the league. There all playing losing basketball if that's the case. His nor Beard's playing style is conducive to 'winning'.

does your argument have a leg to stand on if those CP3 teams were playing in the East all these years?

junglejim · Aug 1, 2017

antidope said:
He was also playing inefficient me me me basketball. When he was playing to win he wasn't shooting any. Chicago Bulls Wade was all about putting up surface level stats to mask the fact that he was playing really bad.

I'm no longer following the point. All I said was shooting 34% this year is nowhere close to being the worst ever. Then people came in with a bunch of filters to make it look worse. He shot better than 51 people from three this year who had at least 2 attempts per game.

Does he chuck? Absolutely

Is it hard to watch sometimes? Absolutely

Is 34% anywhere close to being the worst shooter in the NBA? I suppose I've learned it depends how you filter it. There are players who have shot damn near a 1000 threes in their career at a 20% clip and we are saying Westbrook is as bad as them. Antekoumpo who some people already want to call a top 5 player is shooting 27 percent.

antidope · Aug 1, 2017

The initial point was that the gap between Westbrooks and Hardens three point shooting is insurmountable.

Westbrooks best season shooting the three couldn't beat Hardens worst one.

Then we went to quantify how bad of a shooter Westbrook really is

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Aug 1, 2017

Westbrook still won mvp so these arguments mean nothing.

junglejim · Aug 1, 2017

antidope said:
The initial point was that the gap between Westbrooks and Hardens three point shooting is insurmountable.

Westbrooks best season shooting the three couldn't beat Hardens worst one.

Then we went to quantify how bad of a shooter Westbrook really is

I absolutely dont disagree there. Harden is a much better shooter.

antidope · Aug 1, 2017

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs said:
Westbrook still won mvp so these arguments mean nothing.

The argument was never about winning MVP, it was about who was the better player and winning MVP has nothing to do with that.

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Aug 1, 2017

antidope said:
The argument was never about winning MVP, it was about who was the better player and winning MVP has nothing to do with that.

1v1 would show who the better player is.

trueprada · Aug 1, 2017

storm2006 · Aug 1, 2017

shotsrangout said:
He's still better

Don't @ me

@shotsrangout

junglejim said:
I absolutely dont disagree there. Harden is a much better shooter.

I like reading your posts and respect you for acknowledging the topic at hand and that you agree with the other side. So rare in here.

What happened with your name change and what not by the way. I'm still perplexed about what happened after Meth dropped the Ether :lol:

junglejim · Aug 1, 2017

storm2006 said:
@shotsrangout

I like reading your posts and respect you for acknowledging the topic at hand and that you agree with the other side. So rare in here.

What happened with your name change and what not by the way. I'm still perplexed about what happened after Meth dropped the Ether

lol Meth definitely put the kibosh on the name change and changed it back. I also used up my one name change as well.

I may or may not have created a troll account under realnawf's name that day which subsequently got banned same day. Allegedly

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Aug 1, 2017

Since yall talking about harden vs westbrook i forgot i went to this game

I dont like that beverley is gone he is a real igniter. Those point started a huge run but harden's shooting and westbrooks relentless raining 3s put them neck and neck.

Maximus Meridius · Aug 1, 2017

antidope said:
The initial point was that the gap between Westbrooks and Hardens three point shooting is insurmountable.

Westbrooks best season shooting the three couldn't beat Hardens worst one.

Then we went to quantify how bad of a shooter Westbrook really is

Oh. Well Harden is a better 3pt shooter but it ain't some huge gap in their efficiency. Harden has a 43, 44 FG% and 34, 35% on 3's while taking 8-9 a game over the last 2 years and more turnovers than Russ. Both of 'em got flaws.

HOU$TON · Aug 1, 2017

James Harden > Russell Westbrook

br0keballer · Aug 1, 2017

Mamba thick :pimp:

MVP · Aug 1, 2017

seasoned vet said:
does your argument have a leg to stand on if those CP3 teams were playing in the East all these years?

Wait you're suggesting he would have won something if he was in the East? Did LeBron retire? Has he not had the opportunity to go to the East as a free agent multiple times? Since you threw out a hypothetical I'm going with the evidence that we have specifically dealing with his propensity to choke repeatedly I think it's a safe bet to think he'd be right where he is in his career even in the East. He's a loser.

Maximus Meridius · Aug 1, 2017

MVP said:
Wait you're suggesting he would have won something if he was in the East? Did LeBron retire? Has he not had the opportunity to go to the East as a free agent multiple times? Since you threw out a hypothetical I'm going with the evidence that we have specifically dealing with his propensity to choke repeatedly I think it's a safe bet to think he'd be right where he is in his career even in the East. He's a loser.

The venom

flyerthandelta · Aug 1, 2017

There will be no Russ slander in here damn it!!!

Peep Game · Aug 1, 2017

freeze said:
what? thats a debate now too? bruhhhh ::

Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>Russ.

Hell, lets get this out of the way on this sunny Tuesday

Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Harden
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>L38ron
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Curry
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KD

Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>everybody except MJ & Magic. The only 3 kings.

Pull up

Jesus Christ have some dignity

lovehateself · Aug 1, 2017

MVP said:
Wait you're suggesting he would have won something if he was in the East? Did LeBron retire? Has he not had the opportunity to go to the East as a free agent multiple times? Since you threw out a hypothetical I'm going with the evidence that we have specifically dealing with his propensity to choke repeatedly I think it's a safe bet to think he'd be right where he is in his career even in the East. He's a loser.

mamba with the fatality

darthska · Aug 1, 2017

New website, same drivel from the same stubborn clowns. :lol:

Lovetohate3000 · Aug 1, 2017

So Russ is a winner but cp3 is a loser...

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Aug 1, 2017

Lebron couldnt get pnd to perform for his instagram so he settled with nav

MVP · Aug 1, 2017

Lovetohate3000 said:
So Russ is a winner but cp3 is a loser...

Has he won a chip, no. But on the sliding scale of success, he's much more of a winner than the Doughboy. CP0 ain't even made it in line for the club yet.