**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

Which team will win the 2018-2019 NBA Championship?


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Whether you're a fan of LBJ or not, if he's on your team you should probably try to win. Regardless of age.

You can't develop young guys and try to win chips at the same time. You have to pick one.

Lakeshow will indeed reach that tipping point and most of the young core will be shipped at some point. It is what it is.

The 97' Laker squad had Shaq, Kobe, NVE, Eddie, all stars. In 98' the Lakers were a 60 win team..by the time the Lakers were winning chips, only Shaq and Kobe remained, with Ron Harper and AC Green and Glen Rice being the other starters.

You are correct and regarding the bolded line, I will say that a lot of the onus falls on the younger player. They need to be mentally tough and open to criticism, coaching, etc...
 
Whether you're a fan of LBJ or not, if he's on your team you should probably try to win. Regardless of age.

You can't develop young guys and try to win chips at the same time. You have to pick one.

Lakeshow will indeed reach that tipping point and most of the young core will be shipped at some point. It is what it is.

The 97' Laker squad had Shaq, Kobe, NVE, Eddie, all stars. In 98' the Lakers were a 60 win team..by the time the Lakers were winning chips, only Shaq and Kobe remained, with Ron Harper and AC Green and Glen Rice being the other starters.

You absolutely put together a team to try & win now.... however the Lakers are in a unique position where they could still add another Top tier player this summer, become a real contender & STILL have four nice young cheap pieces.

EJ was 27 when he was traded, Van exel was 26....... At that point L.A knew what they had as players there wasn't much more development they could get out of them. That Lakers team & this current version are in two completely different positions. This current L.A team could possibly have their Kobe & Shaq........ while still having a core of 21-23 year olds to develop still on rookie deals. If we land a big time FA this summer, then sure you go out & trade some of those young guys if it gets you back a superstar who is generally young.

However as of today there is no reason to trade all the young guys for a second tier AS (Think Beal, Middleton, Tobias) just to try & win now.
 
You absolutely put together a team to try & win now.... however the Lakers are in a unique position where they could still add another Top tier player this summer, become a real contender & STILL have four nice young cheap pieces.

EJ was 27 when he was traded, Van exel was 26....... At that point L.A knew what they had as players there wasn't much more development they could get out of them. That Lakers team & this current version are in two completely different positions. This current L.A team could possibly have their Kobe & Shaq........ while still having a core of 21-23 year olds to develop still on rookie deals. If we land a big time FA this summer, then sure you go out & trade some of those young guys if it gets you back a superstar who is generally young.

However as of today there is no reason to trade all the young guys for a second tier AS (Think Beal, Middleton, Tobias) just to try & win now.

Lakers are in a unique position. I don't mean this as shade at all, but normally free agents of LBJ's stature don't come to a team that's been as bad as LAL has been for the last five years.

I guess ultimately this summer will tell a lot as far as what direction the Lakers take things and what they decide to do with their young guys as they creep closer to having to be paid. We'll see.

And I agree, there's no real reason to trade any of their young guys this season. None of the second tier stars are affecting the Lakers bottom line this season, and they'd be dumb to do anything to mess w/their cap space for this upcoming summer.
 
You absolutely put together a team to try & win now.... however the Lakers are in a unique position where they could still add another Top tier player this summer, become a real contender & STILL have four nice young cheap pieces.

EJ was 27 when he was traded, Van exel was 26....... At that point L.A knew what they had as players there wasn't much more development they could get out of them. That Lakers team & this current version are in two completely different positions. This current L.A team could possibly have their Kobe & Shaq........ while still having a core of 21-23 year olds to develop still on rookie deals. If we land a big time FA this summer, then sure you go out & trade some of those young guys if it gets you back a superstar who is generally young.

However as of today there is no reason to trade all the young guys for a second tier AS (Think Beal, Middleton, Tobias) just to try & win now.
The Lakers young core will not get them a young superstar lol

BI aint it
Lonzo aint it
Hart and Kuzma nice but I'd rather keep them instead of trading em away
 
But what are they not developing?

BI is getting tons of touches. Kuz is getting his shots. Zo and Hart are getting their spot up looks.

They're learning how to play in crunch time (especially defense), I think that's invaluable.

I will say that Luke/Magic have done a good job trying to curtail Bron Ball... However it's still pops up way too often for my liking. the judgement is still out, but again Trading 2/3 of our young cheap guys for a guy who isn't tier 1 (AD,Kawhi, KD) just gives us a VERY small chance to be a championship team & will leave us in a rebuild mode three years from now.
 
You are correct and regarding the bolded line, I will say that a lot of the onus falls on the younger player. They need to be mentally tough and open to criticism, coaching, etc...

I mean I guess, but if you're trying to win a chip, the young players you have aren't really good anyway and are rarely on the team to begin with if the team is trying to win a chip
 
True ...

On the other hand, the ball is being taken out their hand and all decision making.

The spacing has to be different in order to let Lebron penetrate.

They become more spot up shooters than creating their own shots.

Basically have to change their mentality to play Lebron's BB. That also hinders their BB IQ long term.

BI is probably the one being hurt the most By Bron as i expected (That & a lack of shooting around him at times). Kuz/Hart I figured would actually benefit from Bron because they are guys who generally don't spend a lot of time with the rock trying to create.

Lonzo's skillset as of right now doesn't call for him being in control of the ball fulltime, but i do think Lebron being on the squad is gonna slow down his growth in doing that. Young PG's especially benefit from getting a lot of repetition & opportunity to mess up & become better playmakers.
 
Whether you're a fan of LBJ or not, if he's on your team you should probably try to win. Regardless of age.

You can't develop young guys and try to win chips at the same time. You have to pick one.

Lakeshow will indeed reach that tipping point and most of the young core will be shipped at some point. It is what it is.

The 97' Laker squad had Shaq, Kobe, NVE, Eddie, all stars. In 98' the Lakers were a 60 win team..by the time the Lakers were winning chips, only Shaq and Kobe remained, with Ron Harper and AC Green and Glen Rice being the other starters.

Are the Lakers winning a chip this year? If not then why not develop what young talent you do have to see who's a keeper and who's not?
 
Are the Lakers winning a chip this year? If not then why not develop what young talent you do have to see who's a keeper and who's not?

The issue is, are you willing to sacrifice wins to develop young players? LeBron can go into straight coasting mode and let the young guys do their thing but we'd be a 35-40 win team. One of the key points of emphasis the season was developing young players but also showing free agents that we can win this season. Going out there and winning 40 games doesn't exactly help that cause
 
The issue is, are you willing to sacrifice wins to develop young players? LeBron can go into straight coasting mode and let the young guys do their thing but we'd be a 35-40 win team. One of the key points of emphasis the season was developing young players but also showing free agents that we can win this season. Going out there and winning 40 games doesn't exactly help that cause

We would have been a 40+ win team without him standing health. We aren't winning a chip anyway. I don't think the free agent thing matters in regards to winning w/Lebron since he's going to be the catalyst to why they will or won't join anyway. And the rumors are they don't want to join him. So you're sacrificing development of the young guys for what exactly? Him to get another MVP cause that's all this is ultimately going to amount to and we'll have to trade more of the core anyway. There's a reason Magic came out publicly about his workload. You can't increase the youngsters trade value with Bron ball.
 
think LA wants to develop the players but at the same time make the playoffs lol
making the playoffs would definitely help develop the players
but getting there requires a lot of Bron ball sometimes.. BUT
if there can be more games where he closes but also makes plays like the spurs game (kuz scored and made plays , hart made big shots, zo made a shot and assisted) i think they'll be good
 
The issue is, are you willing to sacrifice wins to develop young players? LeBron can go into straight coasting mode and let the young guys do their thing but we'd be a 35-40 win team. One of the key points of emphasis the season was developing young players but also showing free agents that we can win this season. Going out there and winning 40 games doesn't exactly help that cause

We won 35 last year w/o Bron. Even if he was coasting we ain't only winning 35-40 games.

You don't need to sacrifice wins. They're winning now and still building a chemistry, you can do both win games and develop them.
 
We won 35 last year w/o Bron. Even if he was coasting we ain't only winning 35-40 games.

You don't need to sacrifice wins. They're winning now and still building a chemistry, you can do both win games and develop them.

No hate, but have you seen our on-off numbers with and without LeBron? When he's not playing, we play like crap.
 
They’re currently talking on The Jump about “what made the Jordan XI Concord so iconic?” Sneakerhead-ness is fully mainstream now...
 
We would have been a 40+ win team without him standing health. We aren't winning a chip anyway. I don't think the free agent thing matters in regards to winning w/Lebron since he's going to be the catalyst to why they will or won't join anyway. And the rumors are they don't want to join him. So you're sacrificing development of the young guys for what exactly? Him to get another MVP cause that's all this is ultimately going to amount to and we'll have to trade more of the core anyway. There's a reason Magic came out publicly about his workload. You can't increase the youngsters trade value with Bron ball.

I dont know, I feel like the young guys have had the ball in their hands quite a bit. The Miami and Cavs games are the only ones where he took over from beginning to end for obvious reasons.

Look at BI's numbers compared to Kawhi and PG in their 3rd years. The numbers are pretty similar as far as usage and they were still able to blossom into stars while winning games.

I'd rather have this than BI going for an inefficient 20 ppg.
 
Sixers resting Embiid tonight. Guess Drummond will have to wait a little longer to prove Joel doesn’t own him...
 
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