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[akajae]

Need Kwame's opinion on this

 

[yobyellav]

SAS is not talking about his ability to play baseball

he's talking about promoting the game, selling the game.
he's saying it helps if big stars can promote the game, and

its harder to promote the game when you don't speak the native language of the country.

do you disagree?

Kinda……

1.)His play does that.
2.) You need to hear your favorite athlete say, “I’m good, come watch me.” to be a fan?

“need Bryce harper or Mike trout to be the face of the game.”
**** outta here

 

[ahat]

if any sport needs to go
its american football

They can just condense it to the 12minutes of actual gameplay.

 

[akajae]

antidope you gonna watch my man Showtime Ohtani launch some 500ft bombs in the HR Derby tonight? Then tune in the allstar game and watch him pitch?

 

[elpablo21]

Kinda……

1.)His play does that.
2.) You need to hear your favorite athlete say, “I’m good, come watch me.” to be a fan?

“need Bryce harper or Mike trout to be the face of the game.”
**** outta here

The thing is MLB doesn't even market the white guys like Trout and Bryce well either lmao. That's why SAS' comments don't stick

 

[MajinZuub]

The thing is MLB doesn't even market the white guys like Trout and Bryce well either lmao. That's why SAS' comments don't stick

I could not point out Mike Trout in a crowd nor do I have any clue what he sounds like and he's a generational talent

 

[antidope]

antidope you gonna watch my man Showtime Ohtani launch some 500ft bombs in the HR Derby tonight? Then tune in the allstar game and watch him pitch?

Home Run derby is fire in baseball video games. All I got.

 

[ironhorse75]

These last few pages proves ESPN and their hot take strategy works. The takes are dumb but it gets people clicking, mentioning, and retweeting the brand.

Ever since ESPN crafted their entire model after Skip and SAS, I view it all as sensationalized nonsense just like the political news.

 

[lawdog1]

I could not point out Mike Trout in a crowd nor do I have any clue what he sounds like and he's a generational talent

I know what Trout looks like and have heard him talk. He baseballs and is exceptional at it, but beyond that isn't very interesting or funny, etc., his ability to speak fine English notwithstanding.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

What SAS said went well beyond suggesting that Otani speaking English "might help". It was a rant suggesting that it was a problem the biggest draw in MLB baseball is needs an intepreter. I would argue that it was unreasonable in conecept and certainly stated in an unreasonable way. And the people who I see most angry about it on Twitter aren't "elites", but other American immigrants for whom English is a second language.

Its obviously a problem if your biggest star can't communicate in the native language of the country.

Ohtani being able to speak English would definitely help.

PK Subban hockey player got drafted by the Montreal Canadiens and took French lessons to increase this marketability in Quebec

Why? Because it helps to speak the native language of the people your selling to.

I don't really care who is angry about this on twitter,
It doesn't make it less true.

 

[akajae]

not just dumb but offensive.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Kinda……

1.)His play does that.
2.) You need to hear your favorite athlete say, “I’m good, come watch me.” to be a fan?

“need Bryce harper or Mike trout to be the face of the game.”
**** outta here

I've heard countless times people like Stephen A complain that Mike Trout's unwillingness to do more media and open up more

Has been a big negative for baseball why would it be different for Ohtani?

 

[lawdog1]

Its obviously a problem if your biggest star can't communicate in the native language of the country.

Ohtani being able to speak English would definitely help.

PK Subban hockey player got drafted by the Montreal Canadiens and took French lessons to increase this marketability in Quebec

Why? Because it helps to speak the native language of the people your selling to.

I don't really care who is angry about this on twitter,
It doesn't make it less true.

I think you’re vastly overrating how much fhe language thing helps. To use one of your examples, Marbury was a star in China as soon as he got there. Maybe learning Chinese resulted in him being more appreciated there, but he’s a legend there because of what he did on the court. Same reason they love Jimmer now.

And, yeah, if you’re going to say that this whole SAS controversy is “elites” trying to make an issue out of nothing, then who is talking about it on Twitter does make your point less true because it undermines one of your main premises.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I'm just mad Rache; Nichols got let off the hook.

Thanks SAS. :Smh:

 

[freeze]

True he’s still putting up big counting numbers.
But in the 7 games since breaking his nose, he’s shooting 36.4% from the field and 28.8% from three.

In games 1-12, before he broke his nose, he was shooting 48% from the field and 38% from three.

I really think it's the defense more than the nose. He got his nose reset that same night. Was still having to go head up with pat Bev. And now jrue and PJ.

Before breaking his nose, he was being guarded by wes Matthews and washed Caruso. And then monte Morris and pulled pork ham string will barton.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

That's nice

But Stephen A. Smith said the dude was hurting the MLB by relying on an interpreter.

It was cool that Marbury learned the language so he could market himself. But I don't think it would be reasonable to argue the Marbury hurt the China basketball league with his English

Nor do I think it would be reasonable to put it on the employee in a foreign country hurting their employer by not having great local language skills

It is one thing to say it would be good for Ohtani to learn fluent English to market himself and in turn the game better. It is another thing to claim he is hurting the MLB. That seems like taking it one step pass a reasonable take

Plus Smith threw in some more buffoon sauce my saying it would be better if a white guy was playing this good. Welp, they are not.

A reasonable point can be made about it better from a marketing standpoint if a young generational talent spoke the same language as most of the league's potential viewers. Smith chose to throw in unnecessary dog whistly nonsense. So I think it is fair people have an issue with that.

Dog whistle is such a slippery unfalsafianle term.

I think it requires reading parsing SAS in the most obtuse and uncharitable way to come to that conclusion.

Nobody really believes that SAS beef with Ohtani is that he's Asian or that it'd be better if he was a white guy.

He's staying the obvious truth it's easier to promote when you speak the language.

I don't know why we're pretending otherwise.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

DCAllAfrican

CJ ain't good enough to be talking like that.

I said it then.

I'll say it now.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Homie is like one of 3 baseball players I’ve heard about this year. He pitches and hits homers. Don’t care what language he speaks, if I’ve heard of him he’s promoting

 

[spiderjericho]

Dog whistle is such a slippery unfalsafianle term.

I think it requires reading parsing SAS in the most obtuse and uncharitable way to come to that conclusion.

Nobody really believes that SAS beef with Ohtani is that he's Asian or that it'd be better if he was a white guy.

He's staying the obvious truth it's easier to promote when you speak the language.

I don't know why we're pretending otherwise.

But then why is he wasting our time stating this fact? So as a viewer, should I get upset at his words and his station's decision to broadcast this segment? There's not better things to talk about in more constructive and critical ways. Or do we just scream and parse together pseudo intellectual arguments?

And should his criticism be levied to the organization that brought him over to the states to play? Should we not expect a reasonable time for him to pick up the language? Or perhaps, this could be an opportunity to discuss the globalization of the sport? Japan. Cuba. Dominican Republic.

 

[MajinZuub]

Homie is like one of 3 baseball players I’ve heard about this year. He pitches and hits homers. Don’t care what language he speaks, if I’ve heard of him he’s promoting

I have the most minimal investment into baseball. I go out of my way to watch Ohtani if he's playing.
The language thing isn't ****

 

[lawdog1]

Dog whistle is such a slippery unfalsafianle term.

I think it requires reading parsing SAS in the most obtuse and uncharitable way to come to that conclusion.

Nobody really believes that SAS beef with Ohtani is that he's Asian or that it'd be better if he was a white guy.

He's staying the obvious truth it's easier to promote when you speak the language.

I don't know why we're pretending otherwise.

Did you actually watch the footage of SAS’s comments about this?

 

[everysingletime]

It's one thing to say 'It's easier to promote in a country if you can speak the language'

But knowing SAS I'm sure he didn't say it quite like that

 

[yobyellav]

These last few pages proves ESPN and their hot take strategy works. The takes are dumb but it gets people clicking, mentioning, and retweeting the brand.

Ever since ESPN crafted their entire model after Skip and SAS, I view it all as sensationalized nonsense just like the political news.

Wouldn’t have known about it if it didn’t pop up here. This is the extent of me being active on social media.

 

[lawdog1]

It's one thing to say 'It's easier to promote in a country if you can speak the language'

But knowing SAS I'm sure he didn't say it quite like that

He didn’t. At all.

 

[everysingletime]

He didn’t. At all.

I figured.