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you made some really good points there!
Official Air Jordan I Retro BLACK/ROYAL Thread FEB 2013 - Show Some Maturity People
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you made some really good points there!
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resellers are not the problem....they are making money, when has making money been wrong?
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........Nike and JB is the problem people. They make the shoes and they make them limited so only people who have connections or who want to camp or get lucky online get them
resellers are not the problem....they are making money, when has making money been wrong?
In some cases you're right, and this particular shoe is one of them. However, people are still trying to bend people over for BRed XI's even though they made 500K (or more) and are even doing a second release now, on top of all the restocks. When's enough? 500K is more than just about any shoe - of any type and from any brand - we saw released in the past year. It's an obscene amount of money and people are still asking $60-$100 over retail. That's not an issue with Nike, that's an issue with resellers and buyers. That shoe should be going for maybe $25 over retail given its availability.
There's certainly an argument to be made for those people, but ultimately I have no problem with someone buying a second pair to keep on ice if they are going to make one pair a daily wear and beat them into the ground in a year's time. The people stocking multiple pairs though when they'll never get around to wearing another pair certainly contribute to the problems though. I'd argue most of those people are just buying for trade bait, which is definitely an issue as well.
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What's up dro. Hope everything is good. This is David's cousin.
Also hypebeasts in LA will buy up everything regardless of popularity. As long as get are a J's retro, they will eat them all up. Just to resell. =[
Only silver lining is you can usually find some pairs reselling prices below what the average eBay/CL guys want for them, since the reseller market is flooded here.
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Its ok bro, I understand! These americans don't realize how lucky they are sometimes and that living outside of the US you often have to resort to the secondary market to obtain the kicks you're looking for.
I woulda done the exact same thing! CHEERS!
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true, I said this before its the samething and im sure them same people who hate resellers do what you just said.....Some reason its ok for them tho
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All is good bro. Hope you have a great 2013 and get all the releases you want =]
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how about turning 2013 royals plus 150 cash into ds banned 1s (sz 11, cause i think size matters, in terms of value)What game exactly?
I hate that term, I didn't know buying shoes was a game. How do you win?
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I hate the term game too, because it implies winners and losers. The fact that anyone feels they are entitled to winning and others should lose at their expense is missing the point of being part of a community. That's what really bothers me. And that's not to say that I believe mutually beneficial trades are a bad thing at all.
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Dead at what this thread has become 
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When greed starts to outshine the original motive for becoming an organization/business in the first place.........Nike and JB is the problem people. They make the shoes and they make them limited so only people who have connections or who want to camp or get lucky online get them
resellers are not the problem....they are making money, when has making money been wrong?
You think Bill Bowerman envisioned his company becoming what it is today?
No, he founded Nike as an athletic footwear distributor, mainly running sneakers.
Don't get me wrong, Capitalism is king here in the US but my point is that eventually money and the pursuit of record breaking profits skew the vision of all organizations.
Reseller's started with an honest intention, buy a few more pairs to sell to pay for the pair(s) that they want to keep. Now due to hype and limited productions numbers, it's been turned into a hustle rather than for the love of the sneaker as it was before.
I can't knock reseller's anymore than the next guy, they're pockets get fed. It's those that purchase at the thirsty price points that contribute to the endless cycle. Eventually kids will get tired of "collecting" sneakers and move on to the next fad and reseller prices will fade back to what they once were, somewhat reasonable. However, they will always exist. Reselling is the backbone of capitalism, making a buck off of someone else's back.
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Aint no cot damn game.
If you want to cop, and have an ounce of acumen, you should have no issues 90% of the time.
The only kicks I missed out on, over the past year, that I really wanted, were the BRED IVs.
Then again, I doubled up (could have secured more for trade bait) on the BRED 11S, so.....
At the end of the day, if you aint coppin', maybe you don;t have any "game."
If you want to cop, and have an ounce of acumen, you should have no issues 90% of the time.
The only kicks I missed out on, over the past year, that I really wanted, were the BRED IVs.
Then again, I doubled up (could have secured more for trade bait) on the BRED 11S, so.....
At the end of the day, if you aint coppin', maybe you don;t have any "game."
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how about turning 2013 royals plus 150 cash into ds banned 1s (sz 11, cause i think size matters, in terms of value)What game exactly?
I hate that term, I didn't know buying shoes was a game. How do you win?
you ready to give them Banneds up
that's my size 11 .... great trade tho, you came up #WINNING 
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Im still on the look for my first pair but cant hate on the dude for what he did. He saw an opportunity and took it. Debate all the semantics u want. I wouldve done it to. Practice of some restraint though may have helped.
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But if you really thinking about it, it's always will be winners (copped) and losers(missed out).it happens. no use in getting bent out of shape because of it (not saying you are trappedintime, just a general statement). being a "loser" in this situation isn't' a big whoop, we've all been there and won't be our last...
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I understand what your saying.......But what about the people like me who don't camp and cant get lucky online when it comes to copping limited J's or any sneaker that's limited for retail? And they dont restock all the shoes......So resellers is the only way people like me can get the shoe
If its not a GR i cant seem to get it for retail.......that's just how it is for me and im sure a lot of other people
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Well that's the thing... I've been buying Jordans since 1992. There weren't losers then, there was no winning/losing. If you wanted a pair of Jordans and had the money, they were yours. I'd like to think that by increasing production overall, better restraint from consumers dealing with resellers, etc. we can start to move back toward that. It's not as if they didn't still sell out, but if you had your funds in order on release day, from 1985-2001 (probably even more like 04-05) you would get your pair. I realize it's not the same as when I got into it, but the community goal should be that everyone who wants a pair can get a pair.
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There's always a way. It may seem "unattainable" sometimes, but if you put in your own work and make your own calls there is always a way to keep queen retail at your disposal. Unless we're talking unreleased samples
Staying informed is the #1 to get ahead, and that goes for more than just sneakers.
Like me, I overslept on RD for these and I paid the price of missing out, but that's reflective of the effort I put into it and I'm satisfied with that, no one to blame but myself.
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yea times have definitely changed. it's becoming even more dog eat dog....
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Even tho my luck with limited releases is BAD as hell. I still try to cop at retail before I got to the resellersThere's always a way. It may seem "unattainable" sometimes, but if you put in your own work and make your own calls there is always a way to keep queen retail at your disposal. Unless we're talking unreleased samples.
Staying informed is the #1 to get ahead, and that goes for more than just sneakers.
Like me, I overslept on RD for these and I paid the price of missing out, but that's reflective of the effort I put into it and I'm satisfied with that, no one to blame but myself.
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Inbound into customs. Finally some movement!
Can't wait to finally get my pair and be done frequently visiting this thread.
Can't wait to finally get my pair and be done frequently visiting this thread.
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Where u order from??
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Took a break from studying Economics and went on NT royal thread. Learned more about Econ readying all of your comments than my book just taught me lol.
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