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I saw this movie recently, I liked it. Though I wish more questions were answered.
Official Alien(s) Franchise Tread. Alien: Romulus 8/16/24
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you know what...that video was stupider than I thought it'd be.
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Link[h2]Do You Have An Idea For 'Prometheus 2'? A "Freaking Out" Fox Probably Wants To Hear It[/h2]by Kevin Jagernauth March 27, 2013 4:38 PM
If there is one (potential) franchise that continues to be a muddle of confused ideas, it's "Prometheus." We'll spare you the blow-by-blow (again), but generally speaking, Jon Spaihts wrote a script that was a (more) direct prequel to "Alien" (including facehuggers) like had been initially planned, and then Damon Lindelof was brought in and it became the movie you saw last summer (you can read about some of the differences here). But for all the supposed mystery of "Prometheus," Ridley Scott wasted no opportunity to explain away everything and even toss in a loose tie to "Blade Runner" because why the **** not. So needless to say, the waters have become a bit muddied, and Fox is reportedly none too pleased.
Bloody Disgusting says that according to their sources, the studio and Scott himself are "freaking out" over where to take "Prometheus 2." As you might recall, Lindelof won't be returning (which is why they are apparently at a loss of what to do), though there is apparently some movement with Noomi Rapace telling us recently that she met with Scott to talk about the movie. According to the horror site, the filmmakers "are taking pitches from basically anyone who can crack the story" but why not just bring Spaihts back in who told Empire last fall that he had already planned and discussed sequels with Scott way back in the day? Well, allow us to make a few suggestions here.
Were there is smoke there tends to be fire, and if we were to take a wild stab in the dark, our guess is that Fox is concerned with a "Prometheus 2" insofar as it keeps the "Alien" brand as a whole alive. That's the only reason that movie got greenlit in the first place -- it was a famed director, returning to an iconic series (kind of) for the first time in decades, in something that wasn't just a bunch of monsters killing each other, which is what the franchise had devolved into. But with "Prometheus" finishing with Elizabeth Shaw and bionic Michael Fassbender traveling to some other planet to keep looking for the creator/main Engineer/God/whatever, it seems the whole point of this prequel got lost somewhere. This probably isn't really about making "Prometheus 2" so much as turning the story back toward facehuggers and other familiar tropes of the franchise. Again, that's just our guess.
For his part, Lindelof tweeted "I don't believe Ridley Scott has ever freaked out in his life" and in a lengthy email to Slashfilm, weighs in on Bloody Disgusting's report. "During the creative process of 'Prometheus,' all involved (that includes Fox and Ridley) had a strong desire for this film to launch off in its own way so that by the end, it would not connect directly to the original 'Alien,' but instead run parallel to it. This is something that I talked about many, many times in the press burst around the release of the movie," Lindelof said. "As you probably remember, there was a lot of interest as to whether Prometheus was a 'prequel' — the answer was, 'Yes. Sort of. But if there was a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be 'Alien.' "
Adding that his slate became busy as he started working with Brad Bird on "Tomorrowland," Lindelof insists that he's not the key to the future of "Prometheus" and more he feels there are any number of writers suitable to come on board. "As to whether Ridley and Fox are 'freaking out' about me not working on a sequel, well that’s news to me," he continued. "I retain awesome relationships with both. More importantly, the idea that there aren’t many, MANY writers out there capable of taking the reins is sort of ridiculous. I did not map out a trilogy and then walk when the going got tough. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know me and doesn’t know the truth."
And lastly, Lindelof clearly refutes this latest rumor: "...denying the story I am. I will take all the abuse in the world for the things I have done, but I refuse to take it for the things I have not. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it."
Long story short: dudes need a story for "Prometheus 2." Badass Digest adds, ”Fox has been taking many, many meetings with screenwriters, and that screenwriters have been pretty much bringing in their own pitches, not working within an established frame” which suggest that might be up for changing things up.
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damn. Fox 
screwed up continuation with the way prometheus turned out.
Fox screwed up continuation with the way prometheus turned out.
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I have so many thoughts on this movie but its to much to type down...I'll just wait for the sequel to see if they answer more questions
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I saw it in the theatre and thought it was great, although most people I know weren't too into it. It was intended to be a trilogy, so the answers should be forthcoming.
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Just saw this on tv last night and I agree completely with this post. Movie was awful imo.
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3) Why would the scientists take their helmets off on a strange new planet?
The obvious answer here is the computers and David recorded a breathable, Earth-like atmosphere. But the real answer is faith. Against his better judgement, Holloway removed his helmet to prove a point - that he and Shaw were right about a superior being creating life on this moon. Nay-sayers will go, "But what about alien microbes and diseases?" Well, exactly. Until David practically confesses the poisoning to Shaw at the end of the film, the crew assumed Holloway's sickness was because they stupidly removed their helmets.
1) Why did Millburn try to touch the snake-like alien when he was so scared before?
Actually it was Fifield the geologist who was shifting his pants earlier in the film. While Millburn had an aversion to piles of dead Engineer bodies, he WAS a biologist whose sole purpose there was to handle any wildlife they might encounter. So when a cute (yes, it was cute) snake-like alien pops up, of course he's gonna be interested. Have you ever seen biologist Steve Irwin? Biologists have a tendency to do dumb ****, especially when it's a new discovery.
http://www.viewerdiscretionadvised.net/2012/06/rebuttal-ten-petty-prometheus.html
I read somewhere that there was also a deleted scene that explained why he touched the snake.
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Said it before and I'll say it again, if they knew they were gonna do a Prometheus 2 then Prometheus should've been cut in a half and more detailed. They made the details a part of the commercials rather than the movie...
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Lindelof is such a doucher.
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saw this last night and was wondering why the hell the characters were doing what they were doing. I'm looking back on it and made me question if I didn't pay enough attention but I guess reading these articles, they just left it at that.
Had no idea why David was doing what he was doing infecting and doing things on his own, and it wasn't really explained until Weyland came on the movie but still wasn't really clear. Also how he just knew how to work the controls of the ship.
Why didn't Shaw tell the rest of the crew what David was up to when she took out that alien baby out of her, instead just goes along with them.
Also why the two scientists can sleep in the cave or whatever with their helmets on but at the end of the film Shaw had 30 minutes of air left after going out and seeing the engineer to the ship crashing. Also why does she have her bare hands out at towards the end of the movie, and if it's just the air being unbreathable then why not just wear a mask or something?
is there a way to see these deleted scenes without having to get the movie? if i redbox'd it they'll just have the rental version and not the full version.
Had no idea why David was doing what he was doing infecting and doing things on his own, and it wasn't really explained until Weyland came on the movie but still wasn't really clear. Also how he just knew how to work the controls of the ship.
Why didn't Shaw tell the rest of the crew what David was up to when she took out that alien baby out of her, instead just goes along with them.
Also why the two scientists can sleep in the cave or whatever with their helmets on but at the end of the film Shaw had 30 minutes of air left after going out and seeing the engineer to the ship crashing. Also why does she have her bare hands out at towards the end of the movie, and if it's just the air being unbreathable then why not just wear a mask or something?
is there a way to see these deleted scenes without having to get the movie? if i redbox'd it they'll just have the rental version and not the full version.
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I think the world is just so oversaturated with ALL answers that people can't appreciate the movie.
Were there things that annoyed me? Yes. (Charlize running straight instead of just dodging for one.)
The things that were great, for me, GREATLY outweighed the inconsistencies though.
I'm glad they left a ton of stuff answered. If a sequel gets made, those questions get answered. If not, we get years of fan theories and such to open the imagination.
Were there things that annoyed me? Yes. (Charlize running straight instead of just dodging for one.)
The things that were great, for me, GREATLY outweighed the inconsistencies though.
I'm glad they left a ton of stuff answered. If a sequel gets made, those questions get answered. If not, we get years of fan theories and such to open the imagination.
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I'll try to answer some for you...
Had no idea why David was doing what he was doing infecting and doing things on his own, and it wasn't really explained until Weyland came on the movie but still wasn't really clear. Also how he just knew how to work the controls of the ship.
He knew how to work the controls because he watched the hologram of the Engineer operating the ship. This showed him how to do it. He also was able to somewhat translate their language because it was a derivative of something humans knew.
Why didn't Shaw tell the rest of the crew what David was up to when she took out that alien baby out of her, instead just goes along with them.
There wasn't much time left. Weyland and David were going on the ship REGARDLESS. It was a join us, or stay here moment. Her opinion didn't matter at that point. And as a scientist she WANTED to meet the Engineer.
Also why the two scientists can sleep in the cave or whatever with their helmets on but at the end of the film Shaw had 30 minutes of air left after going out and seeing the engineer to the ship crashing.
Because there was terraforming done in the cave. I.E the air was converted into breathable oxygen in the cave. The Engineers need oxygen to survive too, they're the precursor to us. On the surface the air was unbreathable.
Also why does she have her bare hands out at towards the end of the movie, and if it's just the air being unbreathable then why not just wear a mask or something?
Not sure what this means.
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Eh....
the visuals were outstanding. But i got done watching the movie and literally said to myself "What??!" "What the hell did i just watch". Like there is no payoff....things just happen....and keep happening...as i just stare at the screen like ok now this is happening? I wasn't engaged in the movie at all. There comes a certain point where nothing connects that i mentally check out. And i hit it in this movie.
I wouldn't say it was horrible. I liked the visuals. And if some one hasn't seen it before i tell them to watch it. But i wouldn't want to watch it again.
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Saw this movie in theaters when it came out....terrible waste of a free movie pass. I remember being >:
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Again, I know i'm a fan boy on the subject, but I felt really satisfied after my first viewing in the theater. Went back to watch it again just to catch the little nuances that i missed the first time.
There isn't supposed to be a payoff really. I fully believe this was intended to have a sequel, or two from the jump.
Now if they release a part 2 and it doesn't take place on the Engineers planet, or answer the cliff hangers then I think I'll be pissed.
This will get a part 2 eventually though if Ridley wants to do it. The movie made well over $300 million. Its getting a sequel.
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Also you have to remember that the androids in the Alien universe are corrupted by Weyland. See Alien 1. The android was manipulating the crew the entire time.
I think part of the problem with watching this movie is theres a lot of little gems that go back to the entire Alien universe. If you're not familiar with it, i could see how this could be confusing.
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To answer your first question, you have to understand the Three Laws of Robotics. While they aren't specifically employed here, they are definitely implied. The rules have been referenced in other Alien movies, and David is essentially a hybrid of Ash and Bishop (at least, that's how I feel about it).
David isn't a sinister robot as much as he is very advanced form of AI. As such, he is still bound by a set of predetermined morals and ethics, or rules (think of it like Robocop and his four directives). The key to a good AI character (such as David) is showing how they attempt to circumvent their own rules. Which is what happened when he infected Holloway.
Remember, David specifically asks Holloway what he would be willing to do to discover the truth (or find the answer, or whatever). His response was "anything and everything". That vague answer is all David needed to infect his drink. Holloway inadvertently became his own guinea pig by answering in that manner.
As for "doing things on his own", those were likely specific orders from Weyland. Probably just basic exploration directives.
As for operating the alien ship, it appears the ships were pre-programmed. As he'd already figured out their language, it would have been easy for him to chart a course to where he wanted to go.
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Bingo.
Again though David watched the hologram of the Engineer operating the ship thats how he knew. Remember when David was in the center of the "maps"? One of the greatest scenes in 3D i've EVER seen.
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Watched it again yesterday, much better the 2nd time around. Watching the first alien will answer a lot of questions IMO.
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Agreed on the multiple viewings. If you pay attention to the dialogue (mainly David's), you'll understand it a lot better. His character was really well done, and carried the movie. People get too hung up on surface-level plot devices, like two bumbling scientists stuck in a cave, trying to pet weird alien snakes. Because that’s never happened in a movie before, right?
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a directors cut needs to be released soon
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That's just low-hanging fruit.
People have bigger issues, but that's just them taking a jab and keeping it moving, cuz they can't be bothered anymore, even though they do have bigger problems with it.
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I enjoyed the aesthetic
