...Official BLACKBERRY Thread v.updated...

Originally Posted by xdahcreator

Originally Posted by fatboyslim891

Originally Posted by cucumbercool

So a new bb with internet. Do I have to buy aim, email and such?
http://www.palringo.com/en/gb/

^best im program
how do i get all my buddylist from aim on there or do I have to add them all.
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it'll have all your aim buddies and all the people on your buddy list from any of the other services they offer (FACEBOOK CHAT FTW
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Originally Posted by Jballer20

Hey guys i am thinking about getting a blackberry

but wanted to know how much more do i have to pay

i am with t mobile and have a cheap plan that has 300 minutes i pay about $34.00 a month

i want to get email and maybe also the internet

how much i am looking at to add email and internet

and how fast is the internet
Sorry to sidestep but can you tell me how you got that plan? I barely go over 100 minutes so your plan would actually be good for me.
 
Originally Posted by cucumbercool

Originally Posted by Jballer20

Hey guys i am thinking about getting a blackberry

but wanted to know how much more do i have to pay

i am with t mobile and have a cheap plan that has 300 minutes i pay about $34.00 a month

i want to get email and maybe also the internet

how much i am looking at to add email and internet

and how fast is the internet
Sorry to sidestep but can you tell me how you got that plan? I barely go over 100 minutes so your plan would actually be good for me.
Here its called basic plan

http://www.t-mobile.com/s...ndvidual-cell-phone-plan
 
Originally Posted by cucumbercool

-I've been stuck on sk's for about 3 years and I am very use to their keyboard. After seeing the 8900 I am weary that the keyboard would be much harder to use. Am I right on my caution or is it easier to use than I thought?
-The sk was also fairly easy to get use to, is the 8900 something I will need to practice for a few days or weeks before I discover how to use it?
-Also my friend has the 8830 w.e. and he said his apps are free. Is that with certain companies or is that normal?

I had my sk 3 for 2 years and just bought a curve 2 days ago.. The keyboard takes some getting used to but they are angled so your thumb hits them easilly. I'm in love with this phone and breezing through it already.. I just need to find the best apps and learn how to customize my home page/icons. Make theswitch.
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Originally Posted by fatboyslim891

Originally Posted by xdahcreator

Originally Posted by fatboyslim891

Originally Posted by cucumbercool

So a new bb with internet. Do I have to buy aim, email and such?
http://www.palringo.com/en/gb/

^best im program
how do i get all my buddylist from aim on there or do I have to add them all.
tired.gif
it'll have all your aim buddies and all the people on your buddy list from any of the other services they offer (FACEBOOK CHAT FTW
pimp.gif
)


Went on the site and couldn't find anything regarding how the messaging is integrated. Is it SMS based or is it data transfer based?
 
Originally Posted by TENnAHALF

Originally Posted by fatboyslim891

Originally Posted by xdahcreator

Originally Posted by fatboyslim891

Originally Posted by cucumbercool

So a new bb with internet. Do I have to buy aim, email and such?
http://www.palringo.com/en/gb/

^best im program
how do i get all my buddylist from aim on there or do I have to add them all.
tired.gif
it'll have all your aim buddies and all the people on your buddy list from any of the other services they offer (FACEBOOK CHAT FTW
pimp.gif
)


Went on the site and couldn't find anything regarding how the messaging is integrated. Is it SMS based or is it data transfer based?


[h1]Will Palringo send SMS messages?[/h1]
Palringo connects through the internet and doesn't use any SMS messages. If you pay for data usage, such as on a mobile phone, check with your network operator for pricing information. We recommend getting an 'Unlimited' data plan if you will be using Palringo a lot.
 
The Plazmic Content Developer Kit[emoji]8482[/emoji] (CDK) for BlackBerry[emoji]174[/emoji] is a free suite of graphics design tools that allows graphics designers, software developers andcontent designers to create colorful and interactive BlackBerry themes, mobile websites, splash screens, graphics and animated content which are optimized forthe mobile BlackBerry environment

http://plazmic.com/en/index.shtml

Plazmic v4.7 is out, i know we got some talented NTer's ...hopefully they can develop some dope BB themes and share ...
 
Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Originally Posted by cucumbercool

-I've been stuck on sk's for about 3 years and I am very use to their keyboard. After seeing the 8900 I am weary that the keyboard would be much harder to use. Am I right on my caution or is it easier to use than I thought?
-The sk was also fairly easy to get use to, is the 8900 something I will need to practice for a few days or weeks before I discover how to use it?
-Also my friend has the 8830 w.e. and he said his apps are free. Is that with certain companies or is that normal?

I had my sk 3 for 2 years and just bought a curve 2 days ago.. The keyboard takes some getting used to but they are angled so your thumb hits them easilly. I'm in love with this phone and breezing through it already.. I just need to find the best apps and learn how to customize my home page/icons. Make the switch.
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thanks for your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Jballer20

Originally Posted by cucumbercool

Originally Posted by Jballer20

Hey guys i am thinking about getting a blackberry

but wanted to know how much more do i have to pay

i am with t mobile and have a cheap plan that has 300 minutes i pay about $34.00 a month

i want to get email and maybe also the internet

how much i am looking at to add email and internet

and how fast is the internet
Sorry to sidestep but can you tell me how you got that plan? I barely go over 100 minutes so your plan would actually be good for me.
Here its called basic plan

http://www.t-mobile.com/s...ndvidual-cell-phone-plan
oh.
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I have shared family so I am not a candidate
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. Thanks though.
 
Plazmic is what i use to design my themes

thanks for the link, didnt know there was a new V. out
 
OK question, in case there are any VZW reps out there: I want a Blackberry but i'm not eligible for upgrade until july. I was planning on waiting till thenand copping the niagara. My old verizon phone just broke for the second time this year (got the same model using the insurance plan, i know stupid) how muchwould it cost me to upgrade to a berry andr what phone should I get to tide me over until niagara drops?
 
As long as you are willing to get locked in for another 2 year contract tell the mgr that you are tired of the current phone breaking on you and you want a BB.I'm not a rep but I work for VZ...just not VZW. I do it all the time.
 
For those with Sprint, You can FINALLY get call tones on your BlackBerry. You know the music that plays when you call someone. You can finally get them. Justthought I would share
 
Originally Posted by urbano wears nikes

I just got my blackberry bold, what apps is good for download?
Facebook
Myspace
Opera Mini (alernate browser)
Google (this gives you google search, g-mail, and the download for google maps)
Radio Companion (you can see whats playing on a radio station and find a song that you don't know the name of)
Viigo
BBFileScout (If you had a windows mobile phone this is what file explorer is)
 
Ok so let me just make sure. The only 3g blackberry on verizon is the storm? Are there any other 3g phones that are definitely coming out for Verizon in thenext few months?
 
UrbenYouth - Looks like verizon will be getting the 9630 Niagara. It's already slated for Sprint in the Q3. So expect Verizon having this also sinceit's a cdma phone. I'll be making the switch to it when it comes out from my blackberry storm. Not saying because the Storm is not nice. I just cameto realize I need a phone which has physical keyboard.

BlackBerry 9630 Hands-On Hardware First Look!
Posted in Device Reviews on 17 Mar 2009 15:55 by Kevin Michaluk | 75 comments

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A CrackBerry.com Hands-On First Look at the BlackBerry "Niagara" 9630...

A First Hands-On Look at the BlackBerry 9630 WE

The Full Qwerty BlackBerry CDMA Carriers & Users Have Been Waiting For!

Didn't we say when it rains it pours? As you likely surmised from the previously leaked images and video and forum posts, the BlackBerry "Niagara" 9630 has made its way into the wild. And once an unannounced, pre-release BlackBerry Smartphone gets loose you know it's just a matter of time before it winds up getting photographed and videoed on the CrackBerry review table. So following up on our pre-release reviews of the BlackBerry Bold, BlackBerry Pearl Flip, BlackBerry Curve 8900 and BlackBerry Storm, it's time for a hands-on first look (lots of photos and video!) at next full-qwerty BlackBerry that'll be coming to a CDMA carrier near you in the months ahead.

* Disclaimer: Like all of our pre-release reviews, please note that this is non-commercially available device which means things could change by the time it comes to market. *

Read on For Photos, Video and First Impressions of the BlackBerry 9630 >>



A Note About the Pre-Release Device Review

In the case of the 9630 unit reviewed here, the hardware is actually really solid. Compared to the other pre-release devices I have handled, this hardware feels final form (which gives me hope that it could be announced and available sooner than Q3). However, while the hardware seems pretty much good to go, the device software is another. The 4.7.1.10 software on this unit is very early days, which means it's practically unusable. So for the purpose of this review, we're just going to focus on the hardware. We'll be back to talk software and device usage and performance once we get some updated code on it. Don't worry, there's still lots to get excited for and drool over in here!



An Intro and Overview of the BlackBerry 9630

It's been a long time now since word of the BlackBerry with the codename "Niagara" first popped up in the forums and blogs. So what's it all about? It's probably easiest to think of the "Niagara" as the next-generation BlackBerry 8830 World Edition. It's hard to say which carrier will land this new device first (safe bets would be Verizon or Sprint), but the odds are good you will see the "Niagara" roll out with time to every carrier who currently sells the 8830.

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BlackBerry 8830 WE vs. 9630 WE
Out with the old (8830) and in with the new (9630)!!

The BlackBerry 9630 itself is really a mash-up of RIM's BlackBerry Bold, BlackBerry Curve 8900 and BlackBerry Storm. Size-wise it fits somewhere in the middle between the 8900 and Bold, and it shares design influences from both. Though smaller, the 9630's keyboard is of same style as the Bold, with no spaces between the keys and "guitar frets" between the rows. The 9630's display is the same as the Curve 8900's, as is the layout and type of ports/buttons around the perimeter of the device. And with the 9630 being a world phone, under the battery cover the 'guts' are basically the same as the BlackBerry Storm in terms of processor (528) and radios (though layout is of course different). And like the Storm and Curve 8900 both, the 9630 gets the new and improved 3.2 megapixel camera. Looking at the 9630, the most unique visual queue is its battery door which I'm happy to say I personally think looks much better in person than in the previous photos that popped up on the net of it.
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The BlackBerry 9630 feels great in the hand. The battery door is deceptive. It's not skinny - its the full device width and looks good.

Like the 8900 the left side is clean with just a convenience key. Note the lanyard hole and new multi-hole sound escape ports. The right side is identical to the Curve 8900, MicroUSB and all.
A hands-on look at the BlackBerry 9630

One last thing to think about before moving on to some hand-on impressions is the name. While "Niagara" is kind of a cool name that won't be the go-to-market name labeled to the 9630. After holding the device, I'm really baffled as to what name it will be sold under. Is the keyboard what makes a Bold a Bold? Maybe it'll be the BlackBerry Bold 9630. Or BlackBerry Bold 9630 World Edition (or WE). Or maybe RIM will skip the brand name and just go with BlackBerry 9630 WE. It seems unlikely that they'd develop a new brand name to market it under, but they do have to name it something... and I don't think BlackBerry Curvy Bold 9630 would work!



BlackBerry 9630 Video Hardware Overview

For those of you on CDMA carriers that don't offer the BlackBerry Storm of if you're simply not a fan of RIM's touchscreen smartphone, this is going to be the next BlackBerry you buy. Seriously, once you pick it up you're going to say to yourself "You Ought To Be With Me." So to that end, I'll save my voice for once I get some hands-on time with this 9630 running a more stable OS and for now we'll let Al Green do the talking...



BlackBerry 9630 Hardware First Impressions

Every time I look at the BlackBerry 9630 I can't help but do a double take. And I'll bet the same thing will happen to those of you reading this when you first see it. The Curve 8900 and Bold dominant my brain when it comes to new BlackBerry smartphones with keyboards it seems, so to see this third same but different form factor keeps tripping me out.

Form Factor - In hand, the BlackBerry 9630 feels awesome. For all those who say the Curve 8900 is too small or that the Bold is too big, you're going to find this device to feel just right. As you can tell from the photos, the Curve 8900 is definitely the smaller device, which means the 9630 isn't quite as pocket-able (but it's still small). It also seems to be a hair thicker than the 8900. There's definitely a different and distinct feeling when holding the 9630 as opposed to the 8900. I think I like the feel of the 8900 a little bit better personally, but am sure many will prefer the feeling of the 9630.

Compared to the BlackBerry Bold the 9630 shaves off about a quarter inch of width, which is really noticeable when you back and forth between devices. All said and done, I think the 9630 is the first device from RIM to sort of "bridge the gap". A lot of BlackBerry users go with the Bold because they have big hands, and a lot people choose the Curve because they have small hands. I think regardless of hand size, most will be able to get a long with the BlackBerry 9630 just fine. As for comparing the 9630 to the 8830 World Edition... well.. honestly, there is no comparison. If you're on an 8830 right now, start saving your pennies.
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The BlackBerry 9630's battery door. The dotted pattern on the skinny part looks nice. The 9630 is a World Phone so there is a SIM card slot. The configuration under the hood is slightly different than the Storm and feels a bit cleaner.

The BlackBerry 9630 viewed from another angle. For those who want a sure grip on their 9630, RIM has made room to attach a lanyard.
More BlackBerry 9630 Eye Candy

Keyboard - When it comes to the physical BlackBerry keyboard, I think RIM has a REAL winner here. I love both the Bold's keyboard and the Curve 8900's keyboard. I feel at home on both of them. But it was only after I installed Fabian Heuwieser's TyperSpeed app onto both devices that I could quantify that the Bold was the better keyboard for me. Though I can type fast on the 8900, the tightness makes it easy to make mistakes as you pick up the speed. On the Bold's keyboard, the design allows me to type faster on average. The slight downfall to the Bold's keyboard is the physical size - because it is bigger you have to move your fingers further for each stroke, which when typing out long emails (which I tend to do a lot) means more fatigue. Tooling around on the Niagara's keyboard appears that it should offer the perfect compromise and be the optimal solution. The feel and accuracy of the Bold's keyboard in a slightly more efficient (tighter) package. I'll be curious to hear what everyone thinks of it once they get in their hands.
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L to R: BlackBerry Curve 8900, BlackBerry 9630, BlackBerry Bold, BlackBerry Storm. What do you call the 9630? The 9630 World Edition? Or a Bold WE? a Curvy Bold?!

A Niagara sandwich. From this vie the 9630 is more Curve than Bold. RIM shifted things around slightly from the 8900 to 9630 on this side (9630 in middle). I wonder if we'll see the 9000 get an update soon... miniUSB seems dated now.

Side by side by side by side...which look do you like best? T to B: Curve 8900, 9630, Bold. RIM has nailed it with the 9630's keyboard. My new favorite.
Comparing the BlackBerry 9630 to its Siblings...



Other Stuff - Once I get some solid code up and running on the BlackBerry 9630 I'll follow up with some more impressions. But drawing on the fact most of the hardware components have already been seen on other devices we know how they'll perform. RIM's 480 by 360 LCD as seen on the Curve 8900 and now used in the 9630 is awesome, and the 3.2 megapixel camera is much improved over the old 2.0 megapixel camera (which of course the 8830 doesn't have a camera). As for WiFi, or lack there of, you know... that is the sad story here.
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Be sure to click all the images above to Zoom in... and I've left some notes in the captions for ya to read (gotta love the lanyard hook! lol).



BlackBerry 9630 WE - Some Closing Thoughts for Now...

With the BlackBerry Bold and Curve 8900 available to GSM carriers, it's once again sad to see CDMA BlackBerry users trail behind in terms of getting new stuff (the exception in North America of course being the BlackBerry Storm). When the BlackBerry 9630 gets released, CDMA carriers will finally have a compelling device to call their own. This isn't them getting the 8830 or Curve 8330 a year down the road, but this is a device they can call their own... at least for a while I'm guessing! Bold owners will show a bit of envy towards the 9630's tight form factor and camera, while 8900 owners will be wishing for the keyboard and data speeds. There's just sooo many BlackBerry smartphones on the market right now, the variety is not making the purchase decisions any easier!

BlackBerry 9630 vs. BlackBerry Storm
The future Verizon, Bell, Telus decision - 9630 or Storm?!
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Time to finish off this hands-on first look at the BlackBerry 9630 review and go play with it some more. And we'll be back soon with more. 4.7.1.10 is early, and we know there's .17 (and even newer by now I'm thinking) out there. Hope you enjoyed this CrackBerry first look. Talk to ya soon.



We'll be back with more on the 9630 once we get some updated device software...
 
Originally Posted by Dead Stokc

If anybody knows or has any decent
prices on a BB 8900-9000, please get
@ me. CL keeps flakin...
Maybe ask someone you know if they have insurance on their bb. They could sell it to you for an "ok" price and with that buy a new onefor cheap.

Blackberry must honestly be making a darn killing with these phones. Btw I actually got to practice with the 8900 and zam! that phone's keypad is not sobad. The person who told me they have grooves in the keys was spot on.

I am surprised at the Niagra because from what I saw before it looked so much like the 8900 but now it looks more like the bold.

Lol. Can anyone quickly break down which phone company's have blackberry's and what is their latest/upcoming model?
 
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