Official: Chicago Bulls Offseason Thread

[seymore cake]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

Originally Posted by jmause3

man i really dont know what to think of this team. I hate the fact that we are banking so much on next summer. Honestly i dont care too much if we get Boozer or not. Im more concerned with the development of Rose and Noah. I see Noah averaging double digit rebounds next year. Deng is on my +#@% list right now, im just sick of him not being the player on this team. Hopefully being third to Salmons and Rose wijl help him

You don't give a boy 80 million to be 3rd to anybody

To a Dookie you do

No the %%$$ you don't, and I loved him when he was in Durham, but got damnit he's got to produce and give back some of that chop.I was pissed when weoffered him that much

 

[da r entertainment]

It's a Catch 22 situation for the Bulls. Do you gamble on landing one of the superstar free agents next year and coming up empty handed or do you get a catnow who gives a prescence in the low post. I would rather them wait until next year because I'm sure they will land one of the superstars whether it beWade or Bosh, but I would rather them get Bosh.

 

[antbanks81]

I agree with you R regarding the Catch 22. I'm just not a Boozer fan. I recognize what he is capable of, but that doesn't matter if he is on the bench.

I definitely am against trading Hinrich when we just lost Gordon. Paxson is an idiot to believe Pargo will replace BG. If we give up Hinrich, then what?

 

[da r entertainment]

Originally Posted by AntBanks81

I agree with you R regarding the Catch 22. I'm just not a Boozer fan. I recognize what he is capable of, but that doesn't matter if he is on the bench.

I definitely am against trading Hinrich when we just lost Gordon. Paxson is an idiot to believe Pargo will replace BG. If we give up Hinrich, then what?

Unless we got a guard in addition to Boozer then it would be pointless as the Bulls will be very thin @ guards.

 

[antbanks81]

...and even then the only guard I would want in return would be Brewer. I doubt we would get that.

Someone else asked what is Portland giving up in the deal? Can anyone answer it?

I can only hope and pray that Tyrus uses this as motivation and has that break-out year we all have been waiting on. I would be more comfortable if the teamjust waits until January. Give the team time to play and see what happens.

They felt so damn confident they could do as good without Gordon, so let the team prove. it.

 

[seymore cake]

Whats Tyrus's status at the end of this season contract wise?

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by Da R Entertainment

but I would rather them get Bosh.

Are you serious? I would take Wade over Bosh anyday and twice on Sunday. Whatever hapens with Boozer, I see us being in the driver seat come nextseason's free agent market.

 

[grusumm18]

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

Whats Tyrus's status at the end of this season contract wise?

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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Luol Deng[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$10,370,425[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$11,355,850[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$12,341,275[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$13,326,700[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$14,312,125[/font]
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Derrick Rose[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$5,184,480[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$5,546,160[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$6,993,707[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,091,819[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Taj Gibson[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,039,800[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,117,680[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1,195,680[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2,155,811[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3,181,977[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Aaron Gray[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,000,497[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anthony Roberson[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$855,189[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font][/font][/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
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it could be worse, we could be gsw and have 40M tied until 12/13

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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Andris Biedrins[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,000,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,000,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,000,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,000,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,000,000[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Corey Maggette[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$8,937,931[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,600,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$10,262,069[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$10,924,138[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Stephen Jackson[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$7,650,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$8,450,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$9,260,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$10,060,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Speedy Claxton[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$5,209,454[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ronny Turiaf[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,140,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,000,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,360,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kelenna Azubuike[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,132,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,364,000[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Stephen Curry[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,710,560[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,913,840[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]117,120[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,958,742[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$5,308,673[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Brandan Wright[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,671,440[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,398,071[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,580,600[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Acie Law[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,216,160[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,940,844[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,026,015[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anthony Randolph[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,837,560[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,965,720[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,911,231[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$4,049,522[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Marco Belinelli[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,547,640[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$2,380,270[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$3,377,604[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anthony Morrow[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$736,420[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$1,029,389[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$0[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TOTALS:[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$60,789,165[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$49,357,229[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$43,882,069[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$40,984,138[/font]	[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]$20,000,000[/font]

 

[seymore cake]

Just looking at Luol's figures makes me sick to my stomache

 

[antbanks81]

Cake, I was going to type the same thing...I think the chart shows there is no need to jump the gun. Let's see where we are at in January and move fromthere.

 

[shabooyah1124]

From Rumor Central

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1703

[h3]TRADES: Boozer 3-way deal dead?[/h3]
Carlos Boozer | Jazz | Interested: Pistons? Bulls? Trail Blazers? Jazz?
ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard updated the NBA's story of the day on the noon edition of Sportscenter by stating the proposed three-way trade between the Utah Jazz, Portland Trail Blazers and Chicago Bulls centered around Carlos Boozer is dead. At least in its current incarnation.
Broussard quoted Blazers GM Kevin Pritchard as saying bluntly that it's "not going to happen," despite his team's strong desire to bring in G Kirk Hinrich from Chicago.

Speculation is that the Jazz will continue to try and deal Boozer in order to free up the cap space to retain Paul Millsap. Broussard also suggested one possible match could be with Detroit, with Richard Hamilton entering the mix.

*Scratches head*

 

[seymore cake]

Yea Ant I'm with you in that regard.

 

[jmause3]

looks like the deal is off, im glad we were looking to get Bayless in the trade though.

 

[antbanks81]

Maybe there is someone up there thinking A LITTLE BIT

 

[antbanks81]

ESPn is saying the Bulls want Bayless but Portland is not having it at all. Even if we did get Outlaw, Webster and/or Blake, this trade is a FAIL for us. Ihope that Detroit gets Boozer so that this will all be old news.

 

[da r entertainment]

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by Da R Entertainment

but I would rather them get Bosh.

Are you serious? I would take Wade over Bosh anyday and twice on Sunday. Whatever hapens with Boozer, I see us being in the driver seat come next season's free agent market.

The Bulls need a big man more than they need another guard in the mix seriously.

 

[mblackmon]

I hope that Detroit gets Boozer so that this will all be old news.
Same. I know there's really nobody but Id rather see them go after a legit center than add another pf.

 

[arstyle27]

Word in Chicago is that the Boozer deal was never really close to happening.

We're done making moves until either, the trade deadline or next off season.

 

[Air273]

would you trade kirk and noah for oden?

 

[antbanks81]

Nope, but I would do this...


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Cap Room

-$10,361,074

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• Brandon Roy
• $3,910,816$3.9M
• 24.1

• SG2 0
• 1 Year

Being Traded To

• Greg Oden
• $5,361,240$5.3M
• 18.1

• C9 0
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Acquiring 2 Players

$9,272,056$9.3M

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Being Traded To Portland Trail Blazers

• Luol Deng
• $10,365,000$10.3M
• 14.7

• SF5 0
• 5 Years

Being **** Excuse me for dreaming but Roy is pissed about his contract negotiations and Portland signing (or attempting to) Millsap must signal that Oden is not highly regarded. He seems like a modern day Sam Bowie at the moment, maybe a move back to the mid west will keep him right.Traded To

 

[sterrett02]

Originally Posted by Air273

would you trade kirk and noah for oden?

I wouldnt trade noah for oden


matter fact

i wouldnt trade a 2nd round 2010 for oden

 

[one11archerave]

Originally Posted by Air273

would you trade kirk and noah for oden?

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v104/theycallmedaveed/?action=view&current=5kra0w.gif

 

[mrtramericanjr]

the bulls should of never gave luol that contract, that money shoulda went to ben, hinrich contract is good, cause it was loaded in the front

 

[antbanks81]

^^ agreed but now we have to figure out how to move it. Luol and his agent bluffed Pax.

 

[seymore cake]

and like the fool that he is he fell for it