OFFICIAL GAME OF THRONES THREAD | HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Premieres 8.21.22 | OFFICIAL TRAILER REVEALED
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Yeah but what if he went through a 300 year history of House Lannister and they were never not the dominant gene? Something has to give. So far everybody in their family has blonde hair bar none.Yeah, that's why I don't agree that Ned or Arryn were on their Sherlock. Could just be possible that Lannister's genes are more dominant than a Baratheon but hey I don't even remember taking biology.
Cuz talk like that reminds me of the Maury show. "That kid can't be mine! All my children got wavy hair Maury!" or "All I have are sons!" or "All my kids never cry Maury!"
That's true but as he went through the 300 year history of House Baratheon, they were never not the dominant gene. Every time a Baratheon man married into another house, all of their children had black hair. To the two of them, that wasn't just a coincedence.
For Ned, it wasn't so much of it's not a coincidence, he had the added knowledge to know that Arryn got killed for what he was researching, that gives extra cause to believe that what Arryn figured out is true.
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how could all of three of Jaimee and Cercis' children be normal {use it lightly when referring to Joffrey}. I thought children born of incest were born deformed/defective in some way.
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I think not always but the chances are increased
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Yeah, that's why I've been wondering about the other kids but the books like the show make it clear all of them are Jaime's.
That's just a lie/rumor spread to deter the act of incest. There are deformed/mentally defective children born everyday and they're not a product of incest. Stuff like that just happens due to other reasons not cuz of incest necessarily (there are exceptions like hereditary diseases and what not).
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Are you saying that was her plan all along, or b/c they were all at the inn she decided to take the opportunity? Because it was common knowledge that Tyrion went to the wall with Snow and the others.
I get that, but I'm wondering if she, Ned, and Littlefinger were done with their investigation of Tyrion. All they had was the blade, which still is not enough to hold him on. I just feel she jumped the gun, and their was another plan in place. What? I don't know, which is irritating me
Yea. They were trying to stay hidden and not be seen but once Tyrion recognized her and asked her what she was doing outside of Winterfell, her choice was made for her. Basically started the whole war
I don't know man, even if she let him go to Kings Landing it's not like she was letting him get away, because the Lannisters didn't know she or Ned suspected them of trying to kill Bran. If she would have made it back to Winterfell, Bran could have told her what he saw then Ned could have killed two birds with one stone. Everything Kat touched got ****** up from that point.
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Cat as we have seen is very impulsive when it comes to her children. At first she wanted revenge right away when she thought she who was to blame for Bran. She just reacted. It wasn't her plan all along to put Tyrion on trial. It was a chance meeting with her going to Winterfell or the Vale and I think Tyrion was going to CR or KL. She jumped on the chance when she thought he was the culprit.
And yeah what they found out wasn't enough to really punish Tyrion but she didn't care. She already didn't like the Lannisters and probably had some bias against midgets. The dagger was said to be Tyrion's so in her mind he must've tried to murder Bran.
We see her same impatient impulsiveness when she let Jamie go.
FTR, Bran last said he didn't remember what happened that led to him falling. Now that can be a lie but it hasn't been spoken upon since and really doesn't matter anymore.
And yeah what they found out wasn't enough to really punish Tyrion but she didn't care. She already didn't like the Lannisters and probably had some bias against midgets. The dagger was said to be Tyrion's so in her mind he must've tried to murder Bran.
We see her same impatient impulsiveness when she let Jamie go.
FTR, Bran last said he didn't remember what happened that led to him falling. Now that can be a lie but it hasn't been spoken upon since and really doesn't matter anymore.
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Incest can greatly increase the risk of getting a recessive trait/disease but it's not a 100% thing, of course. It can be substantial, however, increasing risk by orders of magnitude in some cases.
For phenotypes that are more complex and depend on multiple genes, like personality, I'm not sure if the effects of incest would be stronger or not, but I suspect they would be. Either way, at least within the Game of Thrones universe, incest is thought to lead to personality issues. At one point they say that the incest of the Targaryen's led to their downfall (i.e. the erratic behavior of the Mad King).
It's conceivable (at least in the Game of Thrones universe) that Joffrey's personality disorder is a result of inbreeding amongst his parents, who each have minor and controllable issues.
Are you saying that was her plan all along, or b/c they were all at the inn she decided to take the opportunity? Because it was common knowledge that Tyrion went to the wall with Snow and the others.
I get that, but I'm wondering if she, Ned, and Littlefinger were done with their investigation of Tyrion. All they had was the blade, which still is not enough to hold him on. I just feel she jumped the gun, and their was another plan in place. What? I don't know, which is irritating me
Yea. They were trying to stay hidden and not be seen but once Tyrion recognized her and asked her what she was doing outside of Winterfell, her choice was made for her. Basically started the whole war
I don't know man, even if she let him go to Kings Landing it's not like she was letting him get away, because the Lannisters didn't know she or Ned suspected them of trying to kill Bran. If she would have made it back to Winterfell, Bran could have told her what he saw then Ned could have killed two birds with one stone. Everything Kat touched got ****** up from that point.
It wasn't her plan all along. Her and Rodrik were at the inn and she was planning on either going to Riverrun, the Vale or keep going to Winterfell. When Tyrion arrived with Yoren, they both tried to stay hidden so they wouldn't be recognized. Once he recognized her she took action. Was never her plan to take him at the inn. Once Cat had Tyrion, she thought the best course of action was the Vale. Bran didn't know what he saw so Idk if that would have had any impact on her decisions. If she would have let him keep going to King's Landing, then Ned would have been forced to try and deal with the situation in an unfriendly place. Cat took that out of his hands by taking him hostage with her father's bannerman in her father's/sister's land.
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Like whywesteppin said, not necessarily, but Cersei was quoted as saying
So deformity wasn't necessarily occurring, but madness or cruel/sadistic personalities were in this universe.
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Makes sense.
It seems like Joffrey got all of it b/c his siblings are normal. Every year he gets crueler and crueler.
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Most def, that speech was epic. I usually get pumped with Drogo's speech though. Dude went ham.
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What is dead may never die!
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Drogo's speech was epic, too bad he didn't get to act on it. Same goes for Theon, such a waste of a great speech cause his homies just turned on himMost def, that speech was epic. I usually get pumped with Drogo's speech though. Dude went ham.
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I like that slogan of the Iron Islands.
At least Theon's men let him have say his glorious speech before knocking him out and betraying him
. Embarrassing.
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We do not sow!
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And that's why Theon can't get his penis reattached.
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Scared to watch. Are there any spoilers in these?History of House Stark
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Touche
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Scared to watch. Are there any spoilers in these?History of House Stark
I just finished watching them. Don't watch the last 5-8 minutes of Part 2 if you don't want to find the likely answer of who Jon's mother was.
The Lannister one was good. Shows Jaime in a new light and why he is the way he is now.
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Scared to watch. Are there any spoilers in these?History of House Stark
I just finished watching them. Don't watch the last 5-8 minutes of Part 2 if you don't want to find the likely answer of who Jon's mother was.
The Lannister one was good. Shows Jaime in a new light and why he is the way he is now.
Has it been confirmed in the books yet?
I feel like i read that theory on here before
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Scared to watch. Are there any spoilers in these?History of House Stark
I just finished watching them. Don't watch the last 5-8 minutes of Part 2 if you don't want to find the likely answer of who Jon's mother was.
The Lannister one was good. Shows Jaime in a new light and why he is the way he is now.
Has it been confirmed in the books yet?
I feel like i read that theory on here before
It hasn't been stated in the books that _____ is Jon's mom but anyone who's read the books knows who his mom is.
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