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OFFICIAL GAME OF THRONES THREAD | HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Premieres 8.21.22 | OFFICIAL TRAILER REVEALED
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Greenseers were around before whitewalkers and will be around after them. Also, the three-eyed raven came to be AFTER the white walkers, not simultaneously. I don't think they're inherently connected.
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yeah this could have been done better...
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/4/30/18522955/game-of-thrones-season-8-battle-winterfell-military
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Not sure exactly who ends up on the throne, but at least Sam and Gilly survive. Here's what I saw.
Sam and Gilly have survived whatever chaos ensued in the interim. Sam is writing the history of the great wars in their modest home in The Citadel. He gets into bed, kisses Gilly and goes to sleep.
In the middle of the night, Sam gasps and sits up. He is now old, and is played by GRRM himself. We see the white hair of Gilly or whoever Sam's (GRRM's) wife is now, in the bed next to him.
Sam gets out of bed, puts on a robe and slippers and leaves the room. He flips on a light switch and we see we are now in modern times. He looks awed and excited by whatever he was dreaming, which we assume was the entire GoT series.
Sam goes into a room filled with beautiful model castles and toy knights displayed on shelves. We recognize models similar to many places and characters from the show. He picks up a toy dragon and looks at it, then sits down in front of a typewriter and starts writing. We zoom in on the page he is typing and see the words "A Game of Thrones, by George R. R. Martin".
Sam and Gilly have survived whatever chaos ensued in the interim. Sam is writing the history of the great wars in their modest home in The Citadel. He gets into bed, kisses Gilly and goes to sleep.
In the middle of the night, Sam gasps and sits up. He is now old, and is played by GRRM himself. We see the white hair of Gilly or whoever Sam's (GRRM's) wife is now, in the bed next to him.
Sam gets out of bed, puts on a robe and slippers and leaves the room. He flips on a light switch and we see we are now in modern times. He looks awed and excited by whatever he was dreaming, which we assume was the entire GoT series.
Sam goes into a room filled with beautiful model castles and toy knights displayed on shelves. We recognize models similar to many places and characters from the show. He picks up a toy dragon and looks at it, then sits down in front of a typewriter and starts writing. We zoom in on the page he is typing and see the words "A Game of Thrones, by George R. R. Martin".
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you do realize what year GoT events are set in right. So you're saying Sam is immortal?
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Of course it was. Ever since they ran out of book material, everything has been fan fiction lol
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Lyanna’s a savage though. I loved that scene.
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I don’t disagree with anything that any of you are saying, I’m just not sure why people actually gave the credit to the TV writers for the first 4 seasons. Everything was simply translated to the screen, and whatever big changes that the writers took it upon themselves to make usually didn’t go over too well.
As soon as they ran out of books, we saw a dip in the writing and how the show shifted pretty heavily to fan service. Perhaps I’ve just prepared myself for these moments considering the TV writers clearly want to please fans of the show the way George never really cared to pay attention to.
These writers have always been these writers, they were just using a template handed to them by one of the best fantasy writers of our generation. I’m trying to appreciate it for what it is now, a bunch of TV writers trying to close out a HUGE story that the original writer couldn’t even close in in two 1000 page books in a quick SIX episodes.
You have to know it isn’t going to be what we got from George and the books, because George, as a long form novel writer has completely different goals in the story he tells and how he decides to tell it. I’ve hated the idea of a happy ending for this story, but I’ve prepared myself for it since that trash Sand Snakes storyline.
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RIP Arya, ***** You Drake.
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One of the greatest shows on tv until the final season.
Creators said they would answer all questions and reveal all mysteries but fumbled the ball.
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Mcu (iw etc) had one baddie. Completely different dynamic imo
But i would also argue that this mcu phase def had plot holes and glazed over characters. It is what it is I recognize the difficulty of ending such a story
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The MCU didn’t have just one baddie...lol
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Am I crazy to think episode was shot more than once with alternate scenarios depending on the audience reactions?...
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I think that was one of the better moments of the episode. If it was real fan fiction, she would have survived like the main characters. Unfortunately for her she was a bench player so she had to go. At least she had a moment. I think GRRM would have been smarter with respect to house lineage. He might not have had her out in the open like that.
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yeah all the Mormonts died a honorable death, they definitely had to make her go out with a bang as well
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The last two movies did and again it had 2 movies to focus just on him
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They couldn’t even afford to give us adequate lighting during the “Great War”, you think they filmed multiple versions of an episode?
Yes, you’re crazy for thinking this.
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I was thinking this for a bit also. Brienne died like 10 different times. Sam died 20 times. Jon, Jaime, all the main characters had a moment where they were piled under wights and getting munched on, only to have the camera do a quick cut and then they are somewhere else when the camera pans back to them. It’s like they killed ever character then did a screen test and left the ones alive that tested well. Then they accidentally left 90% of the footage of the peeps getting killed off still in the episode.
They had over a year to get this right. Someone goofed big time with the editing and the lighting and everything. I feel like this was Fyre fest man. Like they had all these ideas planned and someone prolly said “no, that’s not possible. We need more time and money and most of this doesn’t even make sense.” And the show runners were prolly riding jet skis everyday talking about living like movie stars, partying like rockstars, and ******* like pornstars and just said naww it will Work don’t worry. And they just kept going regardless of actually having a plan.
Then the normal editing guy prolly backed out last minute. Then they couldn’t wire enough money to the CGI department in time to get ghost any screen time. Investors started backing out. Blink 182 appearance cancled so they got Chris Stapleton?
The logic used in this episode= FEMA tents marketed as luxury suites. Bragging about how much money was spent and how long it took to film= The supermodel yacht promo vid. Da proof is in da pudding B
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Making way too many excuses for them. Its definitely not a catch-22 for them.
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People want good to great writing. Dunno why some can’t understand that. Yes this is a fantasy show, no things should not happen that make no sense. Just because you dumb yourself down for the show doesn’t mean others will.
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Watched the first 5 mins and this is a spot on critique. 
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Watched the first 5 mins and this is a spot on critique.
The guy doing this really annoyed me at first and I'm getting tired of everyone criticizing everything so I skipped ahead to the second half and watched that....
And he kind of convinced me... Episode on its own was ok, but they really missed an opportunity to capitalize on all these things they've been setting up for 8 seasons.
The great war could have instead been incorporated into the entire season, with scuffles and other events leading up to the full-scale invasion.
