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Who ends up sitting on the Iron Throne?


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My theory, Littlefinger intentionally got Marg/Loras arrested to bait Cersei into going to the church knowing that if she was arrested anywhere else that she would have the KG fight to save her. His "handsome young man" is the the blonde kid who ratted out the Tyrell's that will now recant his statement as the Tyrell's never admitted guilt. Yes, he lied and can be punished for lying but knows that LF is who he serves.
 
My theory, Littlefinger intentionally got Marg/Loras arrested to bait Cersei into going to the church knowing that if she was arrested anywhere else that she would have the KG fight to save her. His "handsome young man" is the the blonde kid who ratted out the Tyrell's that will now recant his statement as the Tyrell's never admitted guilt. Yes, he lied and can be punished for lying but knows that LF is who he serves.

this is a VERY good theory.
 
Well he didn't say exactly what he did, just that he'll giver her the samething he gave Cersei.


and he could have very easily just said "i am here with a gift.. here is this information on cersei that you might find useful"

doesn't implicate himself at all.. there is no reason for him to just give up that information, unless you're dumbing things down for the audience and feel you need to remind them: "hey, it was litttlefinger that did this"

Not sure bro. I just know I'm not going to make too many assumptions based on a few scenes considering a lot of Little Fingers moves are long plays.
 
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Littlefinger's most likely just trying to gain some trust/favor from his probable future ally. If he really manages to get Margaery and Lora freed then that would solidify their alliance.

He's been stringing Cersei along in a web since he's know that the Lannisters have been a sinking ship ever since Tywin died.
 
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Little finger is a character GRRM loved so much in the show. (him and Osha) that im sure we'll get some more of him in Winds of Winter now.

Good theory and that makes sense btw.
To get deeper in to that theory, Little finger been playing the lannisters since Robert died and Stannis sent that letter, he knew stuff was going to be a crap show with joffery...
He knew the tyrells wanted power and with no heir to casterly rock and tywin being the Kings hand. all this was inevitable imo
 
Littlefinger's most likely just trying to gain some trust/favor from his probable future ally. If he really manages to get Margaery and Lora freed then that would solidify their alliance.

He's been stringing Cersei along in a web since he's know that the Lannisters have been a sinking ship ever since Tywin died.
Cersei has no grasp of politics and her tantrums are the reason shes gonna get punished
 
I think what @itsaboutthattime
(correct me if I'm wrong) is getting at is prior to this season Littlefinger had spys that gathered information that nobody knew and used that to put his plans in motion, but his season he's using knowledge that everyone should know, which is why he feels like certain things should have happened without his interference. One example that I can think of is the Cersie and Jamie incest. In season 2 there was a scene where Stannis gets the letter from Ned about what he found out about the Lannister siblings. Stannis then sent that letter to all the lords of Westeros, and the word spread even to common folk, so why did Lady Olenna not know this until Little Finger told her this season? And if that wasn't the info that Little Finger gave up The High Sparrow still should have heard about the Queen awhile ago. 
There's a difference between widely rumored and proving it with evidence or testimony.

Everybody knows the rumor of the heirs being inbred bastards and Cersi's incest with Jamie. As it goes, Ned told everybody that Stannis was the rightful king after Robert's death but only told Stannis that also cuz of Cersi's incest. Stannis then told everybody it was cuz of incest.

Littlefinger currently isn't using common known rumors to orchestrate things. He's using proof that could actually take down Cersi after she gave the High Sparrow power in King's Landing. There's a difference.
and we cant forget that littlefinger admitted to lady olenna that it was him who provided cersei with the person who put loras and margarey in their current positions..

how exactly does that help him to give up that information?
What do you mean how? Her grandkids are in prison about to be put on trial for something they are guilty of with no help or signs of them buying their way out of it. Littlefinger is putting House Tyrell in a bind. At the end of this they're going to owe him.

Just because you don't see how it helps him doesn't mean it isn't a smart move.

this a dude who was moving in silence prior to this season.. and all of a sudden he wants credit from someone he is screwing over.. an extremely powerful family (hell probably the most powerful family right now)
You can't move in silence forever b. Littlefinger wants to sit on the Iron throne. You think he gonna hide in the shadows until the final season?

What you think this is?

Besides this isn't the first time he's momentarily stepped in to the light to make moves just to dip back in to the shadows. It's exactly how he screwed over Ned Stark.

Just cuz you don't like how he's winning don't mean he aint winning.
Saying something like his actions are to only keep him involved with what's going on makes no damn sense. From the very start of the show we come to find out all of his actions have reasons.


his actions now don't make sense.. read what I am continuously saying.. what he is doing this season doesn't make sense

like literally ratting himself out to lady olenna last episode
They don't make sense because you seemingly don't understand them but going off what you said you don't understand them because you think it'd be better if he just chilled in the Vale and let things happen without him doing anything.

He didn't rat anything out. Grandma Tyrell been knew Littlefinger was a snake. Just look how she's talking to him before he mentions any of that. Damn near everybody knows Littlefinger will screw them over, look at how Cersi talked to him. The problem is they just don't know how venomous his poison is which is why they keep him around thinking he'll be a snake that aids them. They think he's happy being lord of the Vale. If LF felt Olenna was an immediate threat after what he admitted he'd be gone like a thief in the night back to the Vale like he did last time.
That theory is true..the young handsome boy is olyvar

I swear these book readers and spoiler searchers stay ruining it for me :{ :lol :rolleyes

I'll just wait until the end of this season to continue to praise my boy Littlefinger's superior level manipulating skills.
 
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Also I'm still surprised the Queen of Thorns is letting this jus go down.. raise Highgarden
Her hands are tied, the Faith has both kids. They take the ultimate L (family name)if things go wrong.
It was me who said littlefinger's moves weren't really the smartest moves.. And the show is being written extremely stupid right now

Beef with the lannisters and tyrells was going to happen with or without littlefinger's interference.. Stannis is going to winterfell no matter what

It's dumb for knowledge of loras' birthmark to be damning for him as a homosexual.. As a highborn and as a knight, there should be a fair amount of people who would have knowledge of the birthmark.. Especially someone who acted as a squire for him

And it was dumb for it to need to take littlefinger to tell lady tyrell about lancel.. Lancel would have been said that information to the high sparrow





I get that littlefinger is trying to create as much chaos as possible and burn everything down and raise from the ashes.. But these are all things that would have happened anyways and he basically traded in a valuable asset for no real gain

All of his actions are literally being done for the show to keep the character involved in what is going on.. Dude could have been kicking it back in vale untouchable by anyone but dany and her dragons.. Then he could wait to see how the inevitable mess that was going to happen, happened then play the Sansa card
I think so too, but I'll wait to see how it plays out.
 
The High Sparrow locking up Cersei is not Little Finger's play. Cersei did that to herself. The Sparrows were always around, they just hadn't been militarized for hundreds of years or something. Cersei got Tommen to sign a royal decree arming them again.  Cersei empowered and enabled her own captors. And Lacnel wasn't a handsome young man, he was a frail, little emo, softy before. Seemed like he was one of the lowest of the Lannister's in the capital I mean he was basically a cup bearer at one point.

Most people recognize that Little Finger is a master except dude who was spouting off last week, there were people in this thread who banked on him being the orchestrator of the Purple Wedding from the moment it happened. But him controlling Lancel and manipulating the High Sparrow just doesn't fit. 

I'm betting on the "handsome young man" being Robin who's heir to the Vale when he becomes of age. Little Finger weds him to one of Ollena's grandchildren or nieces fostering an alliance between the Vale and the Tyrell's. Being that Robin is functionally ******ed he's even easier to manipulate than Tommen giving Little Finger control of the Vale for life. 

Little Finger bout to have the North, The Vale, and an alliance with the strongest and wealthiest remaining house in the realm. 
Agree with all this.
 
Tyene very cute, that pic shows her age a bit. I didnt think she was that young looking on the show.

she still not in my top 5 though. (especially since she just showed a little titty and im suppose to be impressed)

Melisandre
Roz
Missandei.
Doreah
Talisa
 
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you think it'd be better if he just chilled in the Vale and let things happen without him doing anything.

Everything he has done in kings landing could have been done from the vale.. Which is what I think he should have done

Continue to use his spies and pawns.. And retain one of his most valuable chips (Sansa).. While he was safe in the vale chilling


But things are simply being done for the sake of the show, as I have previously stated
 
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There's a difference between widely rumored and proving it with evidence or testimony.

Everybody knows the rumor of the heirs being inbred bastards and Cersi's incest with Jamie. As it goes, Ned told everybody that Stannis was the rightful king after Robert's death but only told Stannis that also cuz of Cersi's incest. Stannis then told everybody it was cuz of incest.

Littlefinger currently isn't using common known rumors to orchestrate things. He's using proof that could actually take down Cersi after she gave the High Sparrow power in King's Landing. There's a difference.
What "proof" has Littlefinger presented this season? All he has given this season is his word. Granted he was telling the truth to Cersie about Sansa being at Winterfell, but as you stated everyone knows he's a snake, so why would she believe him. Littlefinger whispering information like Sansa's whereabouts to one of his pieces and having them tell the Queen seems more like Littlefinger, but this season he has been doing more of the work himself instead of moving pieces around. 

I'm not saying Littlefinger is an idiot. Just saying his moves this season is a little uncharacteristic of him. 
 
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