Official HTC Thread Vol. Scribe, Thunderbolt 4G, Evo Shift 4G, Inspire 4G for AT&T

Google voice is like another phone on your phone.

Main reason I use it is for my kids school as our main number. We setup for both of our cell phones and our house phone to ring when they call that specific number.
 
U know what sucks is that windows mobile was waay ahead of everyone else with the apps, but microsoft never promoted it and now they're paying for it
 
Originally Posted by Beast4ya

is the HD2 really all that good...?

i want to trade in my instinct (iphone killer fail) for something good

Yes, it's that good.

Originally Posted by tecca nena

U know what sucks is that windows mobile was waay ahead of everyone else with the apps, but microsoft never promoted it and now they're paying for it
Yup and majority of people don't know that.
 
[h1]HTC HD2 Running BlackBerry Application Suite on Video[/h1]
File under: News

By: Anton D. Nagy | Date: 14-Feb-10 | 0 Comments

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Apparently, an XDA Developers user posted a video of his HTC HD2 running BlackBerry Application Suite for all those who wondered how it would run on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor.

According to the thread, a custom SetmodelId for the HD2 is necessary in order to install BlackBerry Application Suite and some users got errors while trying to install but if you're into being unique and running other/ported OSes on your Device, keep an eye on that thread.



(Source: XDA Developers)
 
[h4]Live from Microsoft's Windows Phone press event at MWC 2010[/h4]
By Joshua Topolsky posted Feb 15th 2010 8:52AM

Live Blog



4:16PM And we're out... hands on time!


4:15PM "And with that, I want to wrap up. We hope you enjoy the conference."


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4:15PM "Windows Phone 7 Series will be available this holiday season, 2010."


4:14PM "And there's a lot happening in the TV space. Very exciting stuff."


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4:14PM "Three screens and a cloud. The PC, now mobile. We hope 7 is our lucky number!"


4:13PM "I hope we've given you a chance to look at what we're doing. I think we have an opportunity with these devices. I'm enthusiastic about the direction we're heading. It's a big step, but I think we have a chance to make an impact on the market." Wow. This is Microsoft speaking!


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4:12PM Andy is back. "This is a new way to work together with partners. And now Steve."


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4:11PM "Today only 25% of our customers are going to the mobile internet... in 2011 we have the chance to get the other 75%. We have to work together on distribution and support. Customers will receive care to get up and running, and I am convinced we can get more people to the mobile internet. Thank you!" Okay...


4:10PM "Thank you. Congratulations. A great product. We're proud of the partnership with Microsoft. It was good to find out today we were the first in 2002 with the smartphone... just a year before AT&T." Ha. Nice one Olaf.


4:09PM And now, Olaf Swantee, SVP of personal business at Orange.


4:09PM "We're thrilled to be the premiere partner on these new phones. We'll ship 66 million smartphones in 2010. That's double from the year previous. That will be driven in part by 7 Series phones. We can't wait to get these into the market... thanks!" Wow, that was FAST!


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4:08PM David Christopher from AT&T is up.


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4:07PM Now discussing carriers... AT&T and Orange coming on stage!


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4:05PM More cloud service news at MIX. Man, MIX is going to be hot this year. Hot!


4:05PM Andy is discussing their requirements for phones for OEMs to meet. Tough, but fair, or so he claims. He also used the word synergistical, which is great.


4:04PM "These phones have four point multitouch." Interesting. Perfect for aliens.


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4:03PM And now, the hardware partners... Qualcomm, Dell, LG, Samsung, Garmin-Asus, HTC, HP, Sony Ericsson, and Toshiba. So... pretty much everyone.


4:02PM "We want to strive for synergy where the whole is bigger than the sum of its parts."


4:01PM "There are more than a billion phones sold every year, and a massive shift over to smartphones. Partners can meet the diverse needs of customers. One size does not fit all. People want different phones, different form factors."


4:00PM "I joined the mobile group about 2 years ago. We used that as an opportunity to reevaluate our strategy. We've changed a lot of things, but we've kept the partner model the same."


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4:00PM "I think we're on our way to making the changes we need, and they're pretty exciting. Now I want to invite on stage Andy Lees to talk about our partnerships."


3:58PM "With out mobile operators, we needed a model that raised the bar, but gave the carriers freedom."


3:57PM "We still need to enable partners' innovation. We want to see lots of diversity. And I think the new way we'll collaborate with partners, you'll see that."


3:56PM "We also wanted to take a step forward with how we work with partners."


3:56PM "So we'll talk a little bit more about what developers can do next month, but we want to take a very big step forward on that."


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3:56PM "At the end of the day, we all understand that in the business of info tech, software and creativity, and the innovation of developers is important. We build a new foundation with a rich set of development tools which we'll discuss at MIX next month."


3:54PM "We worked hard to say 'what's the minimum hardware'? How do we know that we have a set of smart design."


3:53PM "You'll see us continue to invest in 6.5, but this is a whole new generation. We built with three fundamental changes in mind. Some should have popped clearly, some probably less so. First, we really wanted to lead and take much more accountability then we had in earlier versions of Windows Phones."


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3:52PM "I hope you share some of my excitement for the opportunity. This market is highly competitive, highly dynamic, and super exciting!" Whoa, Steve is getting heated.


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3:52PM Ballmer is back!


3:51PM Well that was a brief video.


3:51PM Ha! "The industry has hit a wall. You just go into apps, and out. In, and out. In and out." The voice over sounds like an infomercial. Pretty tongue in cheek.


3:50PM "I'm going to play a quick video. Thanks very much." Wow -- huge applause.


3:50PM We suspect there will be games. They've said as much -- just nothing being demoed yet. These devices are definitely equipped for gaming.


3:49PM "When we look at Xbox LIVE, we think it's a great addition to the family of services..." Uh, well. So no games? No game demos? Why Microsoft? Why?


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3:49PM "I want to show you how this looks and works on a real phone. So you've got your avatar here, spotlight updates, and recent achievements. There are requests -- you can see someone is nudging Anna to come and game with them."


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3:48PM "As I think about my use of games, I play games on my phone, I connect on my PC, and I play on Xbox LIVE. We wanted to bring that experience together for people. So here's the games hub, which features Xbox LIVE. We're bringing the service as a built in part of the 7 Series."


3:47PM "Okay, I have one more hub to show you... games." Aw yeah. Here we go.


3:47PM Joe's just showing off Zune to everyone in Europe. Hey you know what they should do? Release Zune for everyone in Europe. Just a thought.


3:46PM Now a demo of syncing. "You'll see the phone is recognized, and the Zune software pops up. I know some of you here in Europe may not have seen it. I want to show how easy it is to get music on your device."


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3:45PM "But we go beyond that. So here's a look at Zune on the 7 Series. Notice the Pandora Train radio here." Hmm, Pandora is integrated right into the Zune application. Not really clear on how that works, but obviously Microsoft has some partnerships lined up.


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3:44PM "So the fun stuff... music and video. Now I love Pandora... it's easy on the PC, but the phone is, again, not a PC. So let me introduce the music and video hub. First off, every 7 Series phone will be a Zune."


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3:43PM Office loads up with options for new pages and your most recently created items. In the middle panel is your full list of documents. And on the right panel is a SharePoint panel. No real look at Office here. Hopefully they'll have that rolled out before launch.


3:41PM Okay! Office now. "Most of you have probably used Microsoft Office. I'm a big fan of OneNote, I love it. SharePoint is also a great service... but we've tried to take that experience and bring it together on the phone. Here's the office hub." Whoa.


3:41PM "Now these are folders I've saved on the phone, and here are others that are on Facebook." So it pulls galleries from the cloud as well. Pretty nice feature.


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3:40PM Facebook pic uploading integrated into the photo app.


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3:39PM Pictures hub walkthrough now. Same basic layout, but a list of galleries, a panel with recently synced items, and then a "what's new" feed that shows latest updates to your social networks from friends and loved ones. And people you don't know that well too, presumably.


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3:38PM "Next up, pictures. The way I use pictures on my PC is really rich and varied. On the PC using different applications is easy... but the phone's not a PC." Wait, it isn't?


3:37PM "Now I can press the pin button and add that person to my favorites." "That's the idea, bring this stuff together in one place that's simple."


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3:37PM Showing off the people hub navigation. One pane with your recent contacts, one pane your info, and one pane with latest social networking updates.


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3:35PM "On the PC it's easy to switch between those, but the phone is not a PC. So let me introduce the people hub. The idea is to bring together the people you care about the most."


3:35PM "I'm going to walk you through 5 of these hubs -- first up is People. There's lots of ways to manage lists of people. Outlook, Facebook, I use webmail like Gmail."


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3:34PM "We call these integrated experiences Hubs." Hey!


3:33PM "That's the state of our software running on the phone... and there's a whole second set of features I want to talk about. Integrated services."


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3:32PM Flags, attachments, multiple message management is present here. Nice. What about threaded views? No? No.


3:32PM Tabs, favorites, you can pin a page to your Start menu as a tile. "So that's the browser. I'm going to go back to the Start experience. I want to show you the communication features of the phone." Here's the new Outlook. Really bold, really... big. Everything.


3:31PM "Here's a look at the browser. This is a much more advanced browser then we've ever shipped. It's based on the desktop version of IE, so it's highly compatible with lots of webpages." The browser looks pretty darn speedy. "I'm going to zoom way in here. I want you to take a look at this, this is a step beyond cleartype, it's called pixel positioning."


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3:29PM "If I want to pick one of these, the Bing engine tries to provide data... here in Spain we haven't filled out all the data for these items. Directions to here, I can dial the number, I can read reviews. I can businesses near this one."


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3:28PM Bing automatically locates you and does a local search.


3:27PM "So I'm going to go back, I'm back at my calendar... I'm going to think of a way to use some free time. I haven't had any time to get lunch... so here in Spain, I'm a fan of Sushi -- I touch the search button... and here I am in the Bing search environment."


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3:26PM Ha! "We support multitouch and all these rich multitouch gestures. It's consistent with our PC implementation."


3:26PM Showing off maps now... pinch to zoom, and very smooth animations on transitions. In fact, there's been no hiccups at all on performance. Everything is super smooth.


3:25PM "This detects phone numbers and address in the browser, in email and messages, so you don't have to copy and paste to get them."


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3:24PM Who would of thought we could be impressed by a calendar?


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3:24PM "Here's the calendar in agenda view... items in red are my personal calendar, blue is exchange. Here's day view -- I see all my appointments. Down on the bottom is something we call the app bar, it's all the commands for the application." Oh cool, you can drag it up for more options. Nice month calendar view as well...


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3:23PM "You can put people on these tiles, you can promote applications, a playlist of the music you're listening to. Now I want to show you the experiences that are built into the phone. Here's the calendar... ooh, I lost my connection..."


3:22PM He's listing off the tiles on the start screen -- everything is moving really quite smoothly. Lots of little animations within the tiles. "When my wife updates her Facebook profile, it updates on the tile so I always know what's going on."


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3:20PM "Those pictures are coming from your friends, and social networks, exchange."


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3:20PM "I'm going to show you a real live demo of a real live device. This is prototype hardware."


3:19PM "We wanted the software experience to be deeply personal and relevant to your life. It should dynamically change to address where you are physically."


3:18PM "We've tried to make hardware and software that work in unison. Every phone will have three buttons on the front -- start, search, and back."


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3:18PM Nice iconography here, even in the presentation.


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3:17PM "We want to make a modern phone that fits people's complex lives. I'm going to show you videos and some code. But there are two parts here. First, we want a smart design that puts the user at the center of the experience. Second, we wanted to design integrated experiences."


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3:16PM Just to put this in perspective, it's somewhat astonishing that Microsoft has actually produced something this different from their previous work. Think about what you've seen in previous versions of WM. It's a bit nuts.


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3:15PM Here we go. Sounds like some Eno. Oooh, wait. No. Demo of the UI on a long tall screen to the left of us. Man -- it does look fresh up there.


3:15PM "And with that context, I'm going to step aside and just let you see the new user experience for 7 phones."


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3:14PM "Phones kind of look like PCs... and the phone is not a PC. They all started to look the same. We wanted to revisit how we thought about that design. We wanted to move beyond the metaphor that works well for the PC. We asked ourselves a couple of questions. We said how can we build a phone that focuses on the end user?"


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3:13PM "I want to give you a little bit of context, then we're going to jump in and show you the product. When I came to the team about a year and a half ago, we knew this was an opportunity to change. We saw what was happening in the cloud, we saw what was happening with devs... but it created complexity... and we didn't see UIs of phones changing to meet that."


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3:12PM "Good afternoon -- I've been at MSFT twenty years, and I'm really excited about today."


3:12PM "Please welcome Joe Belfiore."


3:12PM "At the end of the day, this is all about the phone and how the consumer will react to these devices. It's our pleasure to share with you the next version of Windows Phones... the 7 Series."


3:11PM "It's my pleasure to welcome you all here. It's a real pleasure for me to be here with you. We debated a lot how much we should position and talk about from whence we've come... I said 'stop' -- we said let's just get on with the show."


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3:11PM "Ladies and gentlemen... Steve Ballmer."


3:07PM No wait. It's back!


3:07PM Okay... music is down...


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3:03PM Everything here is very white, very light. And we've got a lot of "Ready. Set." Go? Go? Just say when guys.


2:59PM 'Groove Is In the Heart'? Okay, we dig it. The crowd here is immense. Getting into our seats was seriously a miracle. Microsoft provided Ethernet for bloggers though! Isn't that toughtful? It is. Admit it.


2:57PM Okay folks -- this thing is getting underway soon. Some smooth house music on right now. At least it's not the Black Eyed Peas!

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We're in our seats and the show is about to begin. Hang tight! Everything is set to go at these times:
 
[h1]MWC: HTC To Release Windows Phone 7 Series Devices Later This Year [/h1]
File under: News

By: Daniel Webster | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 6 Comments

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HTC has just released news that they will be developing WP7 Series devices to debut later this year. This new mobile operating system is very user friendly and allows HTC to begin developing technologies that will coincide with Windows Phone 7 Series.

“Windows Phone 7 Series is a significant milestone for Microsoft, the industry and ultimately people looking to do more on their phones. HTC is working closely with Microsoft to bring the unique HTC experience that customers love,
 
[h1]MWC: New Windows Phone 7 Series Videos on YouTube[/h1]
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By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 0 Comments

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Want more Windows Phone 7 series? The official Windows Phone YouTube channel has posted two new videos showing the new operating system. If you want a nice overview of what happened today, check out the videos below!






[h1]MWC: Hands on with Windows Phone 7 Series[/h1]
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By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 0 Comments

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Although the demo unit was a bit buggy, here's some video showing Windows Phone 7 Series in action. Again, we can't emphasize how Zune-inspired the interface is. Everything from the screen animations to the operating system navigation is right from the Zune HD. Also shown in this video is the integrated voice search, which should come in handy for times when you don't want to have to type to find information.
 
Originally Posted by MusicalExcellence

so when are new WM phones droppin for sprint?

Nothing has been said yet.

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[h1]MWC: Meet the HTC Touch HD Mini[/h1]
File under: News

By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 1 Comments

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It looks like HTC is looking to capitalize on the success they've had with the HD2 by making a smaller (and less expensive) version of the device. The Touch HD Mini, while not official just yet, should be unveiled shortly at an HTC press event. While specs are unavailable, we're thinking it will have a 3.0" multitouch capacitive display running on Windows Mobile 6.5.3. Also inside may be a less powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU, and 256MB of RAM.
 
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[h1]Windows Phone 7 Series Intra-Program Menu System[/h1]
File under: News

By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 2 Comments

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We're learning more and more details about Windows Phone 7 Series. Here's an interesting bit: wonder how you can access in-program menu controls? In legacy Windows Mobile, you have soft keys. In 7 Series, you have the app bar, shown above. The app bar shows you the most commonly used menu items in graphical form. Then, if you tap the menu bar in the black strip, it will expand to show all of the in-program menu options. Pretty slick!


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[h1]MWC: 22 Minutes with Windows Phone 7 Series[/h1]
File under: News

By: CJ Lippstreu | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 3 Comments

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If you’re craving more Windows Phone 7 Series videos, here’s one that will give you a detailed look at all the hubs found within the WP7S experience. It’s from channel9, hosted by Laura Foy, and the video tour is given by Joe Belfiore, Corporate Vice President of Windows Phone Program Management. It's 22 minutes long, so sit back and try to absorb it all in.

Link to video http://pocketnow.com/tech...h-windows-phone-7-series
Here’s some of what they cover:

•The new user experience
•Integration with social networks like Facebook
•Internet Explorer
•Photos, videos, and music
•E-mail and texting
•GPS and maps
•Search integration
•Hardware standards
 
It looks like Windows is learnin from past Mobile OSes and not releasin an OS like 6.5.3 and callin it WM7 I need multitaksing and HTC Sense tho
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Just got a hero on sprint yesterday. I'm in love with this phone. There's so. Much you can do to it. And the keyboard is actually pretty good.
 
[h1]MWC: Windows Phone 7 Series Marketplace Screenshots[/h1]
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By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 15-Feb-10 | 2 Comments

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We saw a lot today, but we didn't see was the Marketplace for Windows Phone 7 Series. It's pretty clear by now that Windows Mobile 6.5 and below apps won't work on 7, and so this new Marketplace probably runs independently of what you can access on Windows Mobile 6.5. As you can see above, the Zune-inspired interface continues into the Marketplace. It looks like Microsoft has saved the first screen to feature an application. Beyond that, you can filter into apps, games, music, and podcasts.

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Here we can see what happens when go into applications. From here you can drill into featured, popular, and new.
 
[h1]MWC: Will HTC Sense UI Experience be Welcomed on Windows Phone 7 Series? [/h1]
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By: Chuong Nguyen | Date: 16-Feb-10 | 0 Comments

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HTC has stated in its press release that the company is working with Microsoft on bringing HTC-made Windows Phone 7 Series smartphones to the market, citing that Microsoft has done a great job with the OS and UI: "The revolutionary new software offers a fresh approach to smartphones by bringing web content and applications together to create a phone experience that is very personal, relevant and connected." However, HTC doesn't stop there. CEO Peter Chou went on to comment that the company will still bring the "HTC experience" to consumers. Whether that experience is in the excellent HTC-made hardware or via software tweaks such as Sense UI and TouchFLO is unknown at this time. Chou says: "HTC is working closely with Microsoft to bring the unique HTC experience that customers love."

At this point, Microsoft hasn't announced much details about Windows Phone 7 Series aside from showing off the UI and some of the main features. Questions about whether third-party UIs would be allowed on the device have been floating around since before Mobile World Congress. Other big questions related to the platform include multitasking in the true sense and not the limited iPhone way of handling background processes and app development related to the platform.

When Microsoft announced the incremental 6.5.x upgrades to the Windows Mobile line, Sense UI and TouchFLO were important considerations for some consumers since they gave the OS a fresh look. With Windows Phone 7 Series, many of the basic functions have been addressed by the Microsoft design team in this latest OS revision.

(via: WMExperts)

HTC Europe Press Release:

HTC TO DELIVER PORTFOLIO OF MICROSOFT
WINDOWS PHONE 7 SERIES PHONES

Xbox LIVE games and Zune music and video service coming to HTC phones in 2010

BARCELONA, Mobile World Congress – February 15, 2010 – HTC Corporation, a global designer of smartphones, today announced plans to bring Microsoft’s next generation of Windows [emoji]174[/emoji] Phones, the Windows Phone 7 Series, to market later this year. The revolutionary new software offers a fresh approach to smartphones by bringing web content and applications together to create a phone experience that is very personal, relevant and connected. With this news, HTC builds on its Windows Phone leadership and extends its commitment to offering customers the most innovative mobile phone experiences available.

“Windows Phone 7 Series is a significant milestone for Microsoft, the industry and ultimately people looking to do more on their phones. HTC is working closely with Microsoft to bring the unique HTC experience that customers love,
 
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And now the HTC Desire, previously known as the HTC Bravo . The look and specs of the Desire is almost similar to the Nexus One. The difference is that the HTC Desire doesn’t comes with a physical trackball unlike the Nexus One which also includes active noise cancellation. The Desire also comes with the latest Sense UI. The newest Sense UI comes with some new features like improved social network integration and new Friend Stream update app. The HTC Desire features:
  • 1GHz Snapgragon processor
  • 3.7-inch AMOLED capacitive touchscreen
  • 5-megapixel camera with LED flash
  • Android 2.1
  • Quadband GSM/EDGE
  • Dualband (900/2100) UMTS/HSPA
  • WiFi, Bluetooth
  • GPS/AGPS
Basically this is a Nexus One with Sense UI
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COPPED!!!

EDIT - Releasing March 26th for Tmobile UK
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I'm in between the HD and the motoroi now...after seeing the new winmo7 stuff.

I think it will come down to pricing and which one is the cheapest when I upgrade. (Plus, if I can't use google voice on the HD....that knocks i t out the box automatically)
 
Just got a hero on sprint yesterday. I'm in love with this phone. There's so. Much you can do to it. And the keyboard is actually pretty good.


Are you referring to home screen customization? Do you have any screen shots you're willing to share?

What phone did you use before?

MWC: Meet the HTC Touch HD Mini


That looks nice too. As much as people rail against Windows Mobile 6.x.x, how many of the complaints were actually hardware related (screen size, resistive vs capacitive touch screen, processor speed)? Releasing 6.5.3 on better hardware is a good idea.


WP7 looks good. Can't wait to see how it develops between now and its release at the end of the year.
 
[h1]HTC HD2 Shown in Windows Phone 7 Promo Video[/h1]
File under: News

By: Brandon Miniman | Date: 16-Feb-10 | 11 Comments

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Ok, it's possible we're splitting hairs here, but after seeing those pictures of what appeared to be (but very well may have been faked) Windows Phone 7 Series running on the HD2, our curiosity is peaked. If you take a look closely at the below "Life in Motion" video from Microsoft, you can see that the device used by the lady in the video is indeed the HTC HD2. This could just mean that they used the HD2 as a prop in the video, or it could suggest that the HD2 will be one of the devices to run Microsoft's new mobile OS. Either way, it's fun to speculate, isn't it?

Thanks for the tip, tyrong.
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Originally Posted by holdenmichael

Just got a hero on sprint yesterday. I'm in love with this phone. There's so. Much you can do to it. And the keyboard is actually pretty good.


Are you referring to home screen customization? Do you have any screen shots you're willing to share?

What phone did you use before?

MWC: Meet the HTC Touch HD Mini


That looks nice too. As much as people rail against Windows Mobile 6.x.x, how many of the complaints were actually hardware related (screen size, resistive vs capacitive touch screen, processor speed)? Releasing 6.5.3 on better hardware is a good idea.


WP7 looks good. Can't wait to see how it develops between now and its release at the end of the year.

not just home customization. everything is customizable. sms apps, camera apps. you can change basically everything on the phone. 
i came from a blackberry pearl. i havent figured out how to take screenshots yet without rooting it. anyone know of a way or an app?
 
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[h4]HTC Desire ROM makes Sense on the Nexus One[/h4]
By Nilay Patel posted Feb 17th 2010 2:33PM


It's no secret that the HTC Desire is the exact same hardware as the Nexus One with a Sense-based Android build on top of it, so it shouldn't be any surprise that an enterprising hacker has already started porting the Desire's ROM over to Google's baby. Interestingly, the system file is a little too big for the Nexus One's internal storage, so some rearranging was necessary, and not everything works yet, but it's a start -- and apparently Flash 10.1 is included and enabled, so this one should be a hot ticket when it's released


Since HTC made the phone, I thought I would post it anyway.....

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[h4]Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 gets ported onto Sony Ericsson's Xperia X1[/h4]
By Darren Murph posted Feb 17th 2010 2:59AM


Not even a fortnight after we saw Android 2.0.1 slapped onto Sony Ericsson's all-but-forgotten Xperia X1, along comes a port that makes the other look like child's play. A dedicated coder over at XDA Developers has managed to stuff Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 onto an X1, and while the functionality is limited (as you'd expect), the amount of fun to be had is restrained only by your imagination (and available vacation time). Go on and peek that source link to join the discussion -- but be warned, you'll be sucking down over a gigabyte worth of data before the first installation process.

[Thanks, Jules]
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Originally Posted by MusicalExcellence

theres a free android screenshot app... google it

the ones that i have seen only work for rooted phones, which i dont want to do right now. but i found something so ill put up screen shots in a minute. 
 
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