HOU$TON
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Wayne was great on hello Brooklyn
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Beach Chair>>>
Proposition Joe
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The way just blaze flipped that rick James sample on kingdom come 
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As far as KC, it's a toss up between Prelude and Lost Ones as far as the best track goes imo
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There you go with the album sales again
Stop talking about an era you obviously know nothing about, because you were to young or didn't have interest.
i wasn't you b, don't extrapolate my music with what you thought was too young for you.
i got every Source Mag from 1994 to present day.
newflash b, Jay-z wasn't a big deal till 1998.
Hard Knock life Vol. 2 to be exact, and even then he played second fiddle to DMX.
1996 was too crowded for Jay-Z to make a impact, you seen 1996 line up for rap release dates? its probably da best da genre ever had..EVER.
all these albums i had when they first came out.
no one is saying reasonable doubt is trash (its a poor man's Only Built For Cuban Linx but thats another topic) all we're saying is Reasonable Doubt was da Jordan IX olives in 1994 & 2001....no one bought em, and it took years to go by for people to actually respect em. thats all.
sonoftony
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KC was an expensive *** weed plate. **** was garbage
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I think we need to really look at the gap between AG and TBA... for the 3rd spot in his catalog.
With AG turning 10 years old... i think enough time has passed to place it above the TBA. TBA was great and all, but the weakest joints on there(Justify my thug and Moment of Clarity) vs the weakest joint on AG(Hello Brooklyn) is what gives AG the edge.
Top 4.
RD
BP1
AG
TBA
and 4:44 has NO SKIPS...can we say that about any other Top 4 Jay album besides RD?? Even BP1 has "J****thatN" which is basically filler... When its all said and done 4:44 could really be his 2nd greatest album.
With AG turning 10 years old... i think enough time has passed to place it above the TBA. TBA was great and all, but the weakest joints on there(Justify my thug and Moment of Clarity) vs the weakest joint on AG(Hello Brooklyn) is what gives AG the edge.
Top 4.
RD
BP1
AG
TBA
and 4:44 has NO SKIPS...can we say that about any other Top 4 Jay album besides RD?? Even BP1 has "J****thatN" which is basically filler... When its all said and done 4:44 could really be his 2nd greatest album.
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Reasonable Doubt, too crowded to make an impact
but he damn near went gold by the end of 1996.Vol 1 went platinum by your "sales" standards and debuted at number 3
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Ninja is right on this one.....
Hell, Hov himself said the same think on the reasonable doubt Doc iirc
Hell, Hov himself said the same think on the reasonable doubt Doc iirc
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There's a huge in between a huge star and a nobody
He was far from a nobody, and people took that line too literal like a lot of Jay lines.
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Oh...ain't know he called Jay a "nobody"
. Hov had his lane. Any ****** that can get Prime BIG and DJ Premier on their debut album is far from a "nobody".
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He only responds to part of statements.
Nobody lauded over Reasonable Doubt in 96?
Yet, it almost went gold by the end of 96 and he was on a soundtrack while not being on Def Jam
So the 400,000 people who bought the album....?
I know albums that nobody bought. I know albums that few knew about, like All City or Cru. But I know if you were in to hip hop you know how good Da Dirty 30 was. Sales didn't determine that. But I would never say crap like people didn't know about Reasonable Doubt if you're from that era and were actually in to New York hip hop.
That sales **** dudes throw out is some revisionist stuff by people who don't know the culture.
So nobody must have really known about MF Doom, because he didn't sell But the dude who was on Def Jam, videos on Rap City appearing on soundtracks nobody knew about him
Nobody lauded over Reasonable Doubt in 96?
Yet, it almost went gold by the end of 96 and he was on a soundtrack while not being on Def Jam
So the 400,000 people who bought the album....?
I know albums that nobody bought. I know albums that few knew about, like All City or Cru. But I know if you were in to hip hop you know how good Da Dirty 30 was. Sales didn't determine that. But I would never say crap like people didn't know about Reasonable Doubt if you're from that era and were actually in to New York hip hop.
That sales **** dudes throw out is some revisionist stuff by people who don't know the culture.
So nobody must have really known about MF Doom, because he didn't sell
But the dude who was on Def Jam, videos on Rap City appearing on soundtracks nobody knew about him
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The Actual 
Pronto
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Got my tickets to the DC show.
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Reasonable Doubt, too crowded to make an impact
Vol 1 went platinum by your "sales" standards and debuted at number 3
*sigh*
https://revolt.tv/stories/2017/07/05/fast-jayzs-albums-platinum-years-07001c5197
it got slept on b...why are you resisting reality? [emoji]129300[/emoji]
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and to add to Reasonable Doubt being slept on..
3 months in da 90's to go gold....
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=JAY-Z&ti=REASONABLE+DOUBT
compare da same amount of time to Nas in 1996
with It Was Written.
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=NAS&ti=IT+WAS+WRITTEN
3 months in da 90's to go gold....
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=JAY-Z&ti=REASONABLE+DOUBT
compare da same amount of time to Nas in 1996
with It Was Written.
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=NAS&ti=IT+WAS+WRITTEN
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Reasonable doubt was definitely slept on upon its initial release. Hov himself has said it time and time again. Idk what's so hard to concede about that .
He was still a known rapper....but the project was retconned in terms of critical acclaim....and sold modestly. Thought this was widely accepted.
One of the greatest albums I've ever heard btw. The older you get...the more relatable and better it gets.
. He was still a known rapper....but the project was retconned in terms of critical acclaim....and sold modestly. Thought this was widely accepted.
One of the greatest albums I've ever heard btw. The older you get...the more relatable and better it gets.
Proposition Joe
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"I gave you prophecy on my first joint, and you all lamed out"
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and just for good measure...
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=FUGEES&ti=THE+SCORE
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=FUGEES&ti=THE+SCORE
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Yessir.....
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Debut a classic first album four mics
Shoulda gotta five but _'s lack foresight
But I don't give a **** I ain't do it for the hype
I do it for the hustlas for the ghetto for their plight
For the struggle for those who bubble white
For fly four by fours, roofless cars, flawless ice
For the pain for y'all to know what its like
Shoulda gotta five but _'s lack foresight
But I don't give a **** I ain't do it for the hype
I do it for the hustlas for the ghetto for their plight
For the struggle for those who bubble white
For fly four by fours, roofless cars, flawless ice
For the pain for y'all to know what its like
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Reasonable doubt was definitely slept on upon its initial release. Hov himself has said it time and time again. Idk what's so hard to concede about that
He was still a known rapper....but the project was retconned in terms of critical acclaim....and sold modestly. Thought this was widely accepted.
that's all im sayin.
bingo.
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bruh is Magic ... Dude is always 100% wrong but somehow be naked himself to be a knowledgeable person that's always right. Then he moves the pole.Reasonable doubt was definitely slept on upon its initial release. Hov himself has said it time and time again. Idk what's so hard to concede about that
He was still a known rapper....but the project was retconned in terms of critical acclaim....and sold modestly. Thought this was widely accepted.
One of the greatest albums I've ever heard btw. The older you get...the more relatable and better it gets.
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