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^^^^man those are some DAMN good observations
*Official LOST Season 4/5 Discussion Thread*
- Thread in 'General' Thread starter Started by thasoleful1,
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April Parker Jones= sexy as hell
she needs to be in more episodes
she needs to be in more episodes
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Next weeks episode is called "Cabin Fever".
So...
[Jeezy] You awready know what it is! [/Jeezy]
Some background on Horace...For those who don't remember:
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So...
[Jeezy] You awready know what it is! [/Jeezy]
Some background on Horace...For those who don't remember:
[h1][/h1]
[h1]Horace Goodspeed[/h1] [h3]From Lostpedia[/h3]
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Horace Goodspeed
Portrayed by Doug Hutchison
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United States
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Mathematician for the DHARMA Initiative
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Olivia Goodspeed - Wife
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Helped Roger during Ben's birth
Recruited Roger for the DHARMA Initiative
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S1-S2-S3-MP-S4
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Horace Goodspeed was a mathematician in the DHARMA Initiative. Little is known about him so far except that he was present in Oregon on the day that Benjamin Linus was born, helped Ben's father to get a job on the Island, and was killed during the Purge. However, on the DVD commentary track for "The Man Behind the Curtain" Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse describe Horace and his companion Olivia as factoring significantly in the future "game plan" for Lost.
http:// [h2]Off the Island[/h2]
Before he came to the Island, Horace was driving with Olivia 32 miles outside of Portland when he came upon Roger Linus carrying Emily Linus on the side of the road, right after Ben had been prematurely born. He wanted to take Ben's dying mother to the hospital, but she died before he had the chance to.
Horace greets Roger and Ben on the Island.
http:// [h2]On the Island[/h2]
As part of the DHARMA Initiative, Horace was involved in bringing Roger and Ben to the Island roughly ten years after Ben's birth. His DHARMA jumpsuit identified his role as "Mathematician". He also wore the Arrow logo. After a shootout with the Hostiles, Roger confronted Horace, demanding that he be paid more for such a dangerous job.
Horace was in the Barracks at the time of the Purge; he died while sitting on a bench. Ben discovered his body after coming back from having killed his father and showed his respect by closing Horace's eyes, a respect which Ben didn't pay to any of the other deceased. ("The Man Behind the Curtain")
http:// [h2]Unanswered questions[/h2]For fan theories about these unanswered questions, see: Horace Goodspeed/Theories[th=""] Unanswered questions [/th]
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- Keep the questions open-ended and neutral: do not suggest an answer.
- How Did Horace get involved with the Dharma Initiative?
- What is the relevance of Horace being a mathematician?
- What was the nature of Horace's relationship with Olivia?
- Why did Ben close his eyes, and only his?
- Why did neither Horace nor his wife look concerned with the fact that Emily was bleeding?
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What's up everyone. I never really post in this forum only lurk but I am a huge LOST dork. I rarely get into the theories too much but by reading thisblurb on Horace and the questions of people coming back to life on the island....
The lostpedia asks why ben closed his eyes and his eyes only?
What if when you close someones eyes after death they are able to come back to 'life' on the island? They did that to Boone and he was in other peoplesdreams and seen on the island. Same with Libby....
I could be way off on some other stuff but who knows....
The lostpedia asks why ben closed his eyes and his eyes only?
What if when you close someones eyes after death they are able to come back to 'life' on the island? They did that to Boone and he was in other peoplesdreams and seen on the island. Same with Libby....
I could be way off on some other stuff but who knows....
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Hmm...I wana say Ben did that to Alex too, and maybe a few other people that occurred with as well
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That would mean Alex is coming back...And if that was true, Why would Ben mourn her death?
Some Horace theories before I bounce:
Some Horace theories before I bounce:
[h2]Cover Identity[/h2]http:// [h2]Potential Return[/h2]
- It's possible that Horace Goodspeed and Olivia were cover identities for Gerald and Karen DeGroot (with actors "playing" them in the orientation videos to avoid detection) while they are on the Island.
- If true, this lends support to the theory that Marvin Candle used the pseudonym "Mark Wickmund" (or vice versa, or both are pseudonyms).
- Perhaps (as with the Bolshevik revolutionaries of 1917 [Lenin, Stalin...]) the high-ranking DHARMA-ites took on false names.
- Horace is very wealthy (possibly due to the aforementioned theory that he is in fact Gerald DeGroot or maybe he is connected to another DHARMA related company). Some evidence supporting this theory includes the fact he and Olivia are driving an expensive looking car when they find Roger and Emily. Further, when Roger and Horace are talking in the Linus home Roger demands more money saying, "Don't tell me YOU don't have it." Of course Roger was probably speaking to Horace as a representative of the DHARMA group (who were presumably rich) but the writers may have been suggesting Horace is in fact the benefactor.
- A Karmann Ghia was a very affordable car in the mid-sixties. If it had been an expensive car, it would have been a Mercedes, Iso Grifo, Ferrari, Bentley T-Series, or Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow. The Ghia cost about 1/6th of these cars.
Something else I found that was crazy...
- Horace will most likely be seen again in future flashbacks and his character will be developed in more detail, perhaps becoming more crucial to the history of the island than we know. As with Clancy Brown's appearance in "One of Them", it is unlikely that the producers of Lost would cast someone like Doug Hutchison, someone so well known especially for playing darker characters, only to have them die and never be seen again in a small, throw-away role.
- He appears in the previews for episode 11 of season 4 (Cabin Fever), having a conversation with Locke and talking about how he's been "dead for 12 years"
- Horace is the musician that programmed "Good Vibrations" into the keypad in The Looking Glass.
- Horace and Olivia were part of "Geronimo Jackson." This would explain Horace being a musician and how Ben got the code to the Looking Glass station. (For an image of the "Geronimo Jackson" disk art, search in S2 DVD 4 for the hidden menu and you will maybe recognize Olivia and Horace or see the Geronimo Jackson page.)
"Horace" is a reference to the Egyptian god Horus.
Horus = God of the sky?
What's with all this Egyptian/Ancient #+#$? That's one of the most interesting parts of Lost to me.
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The DeGroot's ...
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That looks like Horace with a fake beard/wig...
We all know how dudes get down with fake beards on Lost...
Karen DeGroot looks like his wife Olivia Goodspeed.
We all know how dudes get down with fake beards on Lost...
Karen DeGroot looks like his wife Olivia Goodspeed.
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but like guy said, it could have been actors....
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I like how when the smoke monster (Christain) appeared, the smoke detector went off.
Really clever writers, very clever.
Really clever writers, very clever.
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One thing I've been curious about...although not relative right now...
Ben's mom died giving birth to him....now, what correlation does this possibly have with pregnant women dying on the island...
Did pregnant women die on the island before Ben arrived???
Ben's mom died giving birth to him....now, what correlation does this possibly have with pregnant women dying on the island...
Did pregnant women die on the island before Ben arrived???
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for the people that "download" episodes, how do you watch them? on your computer or on your TV?
i'd rather watch them on my bigscreen tv
i'd rather watch them on my bigscreen tv
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Who's bummed that Rousseau died? I was expecting to see some flashbacks of her and how she got to the island and turned psycho.
Anyways, after watching the last episode, I'm thinking everyone is dead now
And one last thing I have to mention, Ben used a teleportation device to get off the island, and Jack is going to go back in time to the point where they stopthe jamming signal so everyone's gonna stay on the island
haha nah...
Anyways, after watching the last episode, I'm thinking everyone is dead now
And one last thing I have to mention, Ben used a teleportation device to get off the island, and Jack is going to go back in time to the point where they stopthe jamming signal so everyone's gonna stay on the island
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They confirmed they would be showing Rousseau flashbacks whether she was dead or alive.
So, I'm guessing we'll get some Ben flashback or something about the island and she'll pop up...
So, I'm guessing we'll get some Ben flashback or something about the island and she'll pop up...
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This ep was better than I expected. Not great but solid. I am very intrigued to see whats up with Horace next week.
craxyaznguy
Banned
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i was dissapointed with the episode
all i want to see now is what Ben is doing, he seems to be the most interesting character now.
all i want to see now is what Ben is doing, he seems to be the most interesting character now.
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Horus = God of the sky?
that makes two for heavenly/divine references.
the first being when nycknicks posted the "x-tian" thing meaning some connection to god.
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Lost has really become mind blowing. Its so hard to figure out, truly a great show that actually has the viewers involved and thinking rather than just sittingon the couch staring at the tv. I just watched the first epsoide again and it was as just as good back then as it is now.
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observation from lostpedia.com about Christian Shephard "He later suddenly appeared outside Sawyer, Miles, and Claire's camp, holding Aaron. Claireawakened to see him, recognizing him. This was the first time that we see Christian on the island not wearing the blue suit. He is wearing a dress shirt thatcould be the one he has on under the blue suit jacket. Claire later walked away with him, leaving Aaron behind. Miles saw Christian as well, but Sawyer wasasleep."
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