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Jordan never left his team and franchise even when he was losing.
Official Miami Heat (4) vs OKC Thunder (1) NBA Finals Thread - Miami Heat NBA Champions
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He did though
so I really don't understand that stat screen.
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shortie on the right reminded me of this
she was FEELIN it
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Originally Posted by knightngale
Jordan never left his team and franchise even when he was losing.
this
after the magic beat chicago in the ECF MJ didn't say welp. goin to the knicks. peace
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I'll be damned if this doesn't sound exactly like something that could be said about the Pau & Bynum tandem sometimes.
Pau & Drew for Wade & Bosh: do it, Mitch!
Ska do you want me to shoot myself
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????
Are you saying building a team around a player = Joining a team built around another player, after the attempt to build a team around you fails..
Scottie Pippen joined the team before he even played a game. Rodman was traded for Will Perdue.. And Ron Harper was signed after which his minutes were cut 40-50%, and his production was 1/3 of what it was when he played with the Cavs & Clippers. Also Harper joined the team after Jordan left the first time.
Kukoc drafted, Longley traded to the Bulls,
Dennis Rodman was traded for Will Perdue for christ sake.. That's how little people thought of him even with his monstrous rebounding numbers. He scored 5 points a game in 35minutes with 15 rebounds per game.. He was also 34 when he joined the Bulls.. When Steve Kerr joined the Bulls he was at best a journeyman in the NBA. Luc Longley was atrocious.
Now let's look at the Jazz.
Stockton drafted 84, Malone drafted 85, Hornacek traded in 94. Byron Russell drafted.. Ostertag drafted.
This is building a team around players.. Not joining a team built around someone else...
If Wade joined LeBron in Cleveland, would people say a word? NOPE.
You are missing the fundamental difference in them between those Bulls & Jazz teams and the Heat.
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if the Heat had an above average coach, they would be in the middle of a dynasty... and thats coming from a Heat hater.
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Yup blame Coach Spo. Bron also needs more help. Thats it.
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Only way I can see the Heat beating OKC in this series is if, OKC's jumpshots don't fall.
When the Thunder are hitting their jumpshots with regularity. Forget it.
Dwyane looks like he's either hurt or maybe be falling off skill wise.
If Battier and Chalmers can shoot like this, Heat are still in it and can win a couple of games.
When the Thunder are hitting their jumpshots with regularity. Forget it.
Dwyane looks like he's either hurt or maybe be falling off skill wise.
If Battier and Chalmers can shoot like this, Heat are still in it and can win a couple of games.
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Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
@ Bron needing more help
exactly, didnt he leave Cleveland to get more help? Doesnt he have 2 of the top 15 players in basketball on his team? He has the #2 SG in the NBA, and a top 5 PF...I'd say he has a top 5 supporting cast in the NBA
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In order for them to stake those claims, they have to play up to their potential, especially Wade.Originally Posted by solarius49
Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
@ Bron needing more help
exactly, didnt he leave Cleveland to get more help? Doesnt he have 2 of the top 15 players in basketball on his team? He has the #2 SG in the NBA, and a top 5 PF...I'd say he has a top 5 supporting cast in the NBA
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Originally Posted by JUS3
Yup blame Coach Spo. Bron also needs more help. Thats it.
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Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
@ Bron needing more help
Son THIS is what I said when I read that!
In Cleveland that was a more acceptable statement, but what else yall want? Him to get Kobe and KD to come thru and join him?
He's got Wade, an injured but still talented Bosh, A Mario Chalmers I hate looking at but he can provide something. What ELSE does he need?!
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Like I said earlier: "IIt's just a shame that I'm sitting there like "Damn, someone else wanna step up?" about a team employing Chris Bosh, DWade, nice role players like Mike Miller, Haslem. Looking at a star doing his thing and thinking "Who else is gong to do something, though?" should mean the team has guys like Smush Parker and Larry Hughes on it. But no, the Heat have a nice roster that SHOULD be putting up numbers.
And yet the only guy that did his thing was Bron. So what's the final conclusion? "I guess if he wants a ring, he's going to have to go into Kobe 'IDGAF' mode."
And it's unfortunate that we're thinking that about a guy on a team as nice as the Heat roster is."
And yet the only guy that did his thing was Bron. So what's the final conclusion? "I guess if he wants a ring, he's going to have to go into Kobe 'IDGAF' mode."
And it's unfortunate that we're thinking that about a guy on a team as nice as the Heat roster is."
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Lebron can't win a chip by himself..even if he did go into that "idgaf" mode"..he's a great work horse but thats about it
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Bron doesn't need more help. He needs his help to do their jobs.
And I also lol'ed at that stat screen when I saw them put it up. They were so thirsty to throw Bron under the bus they just skipped the part about being logical. What a joke.
And I also lol'ed at that stat screen when I saw them put it up. They were so thirsty to throw Bron under the bus they just skipped the part about being logical. What a joke.
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There it is
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thats the point, he's not by himself....
the problem is that they put together a group of players (not a team) who becomes seriously ineffective when taken out of their roles. Basically they turned Wade into an off the ball player, but he is a TERRIBLE shooter, when 99% of the career he has been most effective dominating the ball. Hell, even Bosh was THE GUY in Toronto. They have the same problems the Knicks have, except theres one more player to feed the ball to.
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Basics.
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Those Cleveland teams had a better record that these Heat teams, and they played against tougher competition.
Starting to believe he left the Cavs and joined a squad with less talent
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Starting to believe he left the Cavs and joined a squad with less talent
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I'm actually shocked to see what's happened to Wade. He's either really injured or age is catching up to him.
There's also some validity as to why Phil Jackson called 1999 season the "asterisk" season. this condensed schedule could be impacting certain players with knick-knack injuries and some more age/mileage.
So it could be the grueling schedule, his age/mileage, or his knee, whatever it is, Wade just isn't the same.
And Bosh...........damn, son is playing like a guard. He used to post up in Toronto, now he's being guarded by Derek Fisher at times during the game and he's out at the 3-pt line. SMH.
There's also some validity as to why Phil Jackson called 1999 season the "asterisk" season. this condensed schedule could be impacting certain players with knick-knack injuries and some more age/mileage.
So it could be the grueling schedule, his age/mileage, or his knee, whatever it is, Wade just isn't the same.
And Bosh...........damn, son is playing like a guard. He used to post up in Toronto, now he's being guarded by Derek Fisher at times during the game and he's out at the 3-pt line. SMH.
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I've noticed Westbrook looks to create off of his shot. By that I mean, he'll pump for the shot, then look for the pass, then look for the shoot, check one more time for the pass and then take the shot. All in one movement while still in the air.
Westbrook has a lot of maturing to do. He thinks too much. Great athletes have a clear mind which creates concentration by itself. For instance with all the stuff that Rondo does, he'll say he doesn't think about it. It just happens for him.
Westbrook has a lot of maturing to do. He thinks too much. Great athletes have a clear mind which creates concentration by itself. For instance with all the stuff that Rondo does, he'll say he doesn't think about it. It just happens for him.
