OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

[Upptempo]

Jordan imo was the most complete of the 3. Scoring, clutch factor, big game factor, aggressiveness, jumper (outside of 3 point shooting), ability to drive to the hoop, defense, basketball IQ, etc. I respect Lebrons career but Jordan's skill on Lebron's body, dude would've scored 40ppg for his career

 

[geno90221]

Jordan imo was the most complete of the 3. Scoring, clutch factor, big game factor, aggressiveness, jumper (outside of 3 point shooting), ability to drive to the hoop, defense, basketball IQ, etc. I respect Lebrons career but Jordan's skill on Lebron's body, dude would've scored 40ppg for his career

LeBron is more talented than MJ

 

[B Sox]

Just based off those numbers I posted, it seems pretty easy to understand the hierarchy of the players.

 

[friscostylez]

MJ's prime was really his entire Bulls career. He just evolved.

MJ prime: 85-98: 31.5 ppg/6.3 rpg/5.4 apg on 51/33/84
Kobe prime: 00-13: 27.8 ppg/5.7 rpg/5.2 apg on 46/34/84
Bron prime: 05-current: 27.6 ppg/7.4 rpg/7.2 apg on 51/35/74
Wade prime: 05-12: 26.2 ppg/5.2 rpg/6.4 apg on 49/29/77

For kobe's prime, it started the 2000-2001 season, right?

then for Bron and Wade's prime, it started 2004-2005, right?

Unless you meant kobe's prime started 1999-2000, i'm not sure why you took a year off bron and wade's prime.

edit: I also feel like wade's prime ended 2012-2013 season. so his prime should be 04-13.

 

[MVP]

For kobe's prime, it started the 2000-2001 season, right?

then for Bron and Wade's prime, it started 2004-2005, right?

Unless you meant kobe's prime started 1999-2000, i'm not sure why you took a year off bron and wade's prime.

Kobe put up 23/6/5 in 99/2000, right near his 25/5/5 career averages. Wade and Bron took a big jump from their rookie to 2nd years and were much closer to their prime averages during 05 than they were in 04. (16/4/5 for Wade and 21/6/6 for Bron during their rookie seasons).

 

[dacomeup]

Bruh said a 13 year prime.

 

[drewsone]

Always took prime as ages like 26-31 lol

 

[MVP]

Always took prime as ages like 26-31 lol

That's usually peak performance where a player is at the apex of his prime.

Peak performance-
MJ 88-93: 32.5 ppg/6.6 rpg/6.2 apg on 53/32/84
Kobe 06-10: 29.8 ppg/5.6 rpg/5.0 apg on 46/35/85
Bron 09-13: 27.8 ppg/7.6 rpg/7.2 apg on 51/35/77
Wade 06-10: 27.2 ppg/5 rpg/7 apg on 49/29/78

There are subsequent years where each player reached peak performance after sans Wade but this was their physical peaks for the most part sans HGH Bron.

 

[Peep Game]

Ahhhh I remember this peak vs prime topic

 

[Upptempo]

Lebron an all time great but you not making me think he was better than Jordan when dude is like 6-25 all time in crunch time free throws

 

[JD617]

Bruh said a 13 year prime.

I’m trying to figure out how someone’s prime... which is supposed to mean their best... is when they put up their career average numbers. The word average is right there.

 

[friscostylez]

I’m trying to figure out how someone’s prime... which is supposed to mean their best... is when they put up their career average numbers. The word average is right there.

lol well i don't believe that what primes mean but i was just going off his definition or interruption. idk why dude laughed at me when i said 13 yr prime when someone before me said 15 yr prime lol.

just for convo, going off your definition, what year was/is bron's prime? one year during his 1st cavs stints, a year in Miami, or now?

 

[rook]

Don Mitchell eating way to early. Wth lmao nobody expected this ****. I was real high on him but nah his some wild stuff he’s balling like a vet

This **** really makes me question NCAA hoops + coaches gameplans. Cause Pitino definitely should’ve had this man running whatever the **** he wanted if he’s this good just a year removed from school.

 

[BIG FISH]

Bron has the best basketball iq of any player ever

 

[pmatic]

Kobe's prime was 03 to about 09 to me. Wade's prime was probably 05 to 11.

I'd say they were about equal.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Spurs are the matrix, this they year

 

[buc em]

I feel the peak of Dwade's defense >
The peak of Kobe's offensive game >

But obviously career wise, one has many more accolades sooooo.................

Please explain to me what Wade did defensively that would be equal to Kobe scoring 81 points in a single game

This dude never in his entire career even made First Team All-Defense what the **** are you even talking about

Ben Wallace won three DPOY awards and even then the peak of Kobe's offense > the peak of Wallace's defense

 

[AEA18]

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Just based off those numbers I posted, it seems pretty easy to understand the hierarchy of the players.

If only stats told the whole story. But they never do

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Jordan was a chucker in 98.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

One of these are not alike

 

[bballkid11]

Beal Deaaaal!!!

 

[bballkid11]

 

[antidope]

Most terrible games - Lonzo Ball

 

[bballkid11]

Most terrible games - Lonzo Ball

I agree. LOL.
Just throwing the graphic out there. haha