OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

  • No. 8

    Votes: 29 49.2%
  • No. 24

    Votes: 30 50.8%

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My guy was up 3-1, blew the series and then decided to join the team that beat him, :lol:

His image has been ruined since that moment and he's done absolutely nothing since then to help it.

So TF what
He made best decision for HIM!
**** if I had chance to leave a bum *** job for great position at a rival company that pays way more and better benefits you bet your *** I'm out
 
:rofl:
Okay
He left and picked his own team pick of da litter just like LeBron bum *** does
Who wouldn't want to leave Oklahoma for Cali anyway :rolleyes

You watch your mouth when you speak of LeBron.

Northern California is butt cheeks anyway. Da Souf is where it's at.
 
Please explain to me what Wade did defensively that would be equal to Kobe scoring 81 points in a single game

This dude never in his entire career even made First Team All-Defense :lol: what the **** are you even talking about

Ben Wallace won three DPOY awards and even then the peak of Kobe's offense > the peak of Wallace's defense

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Wade's peak defensively as a disruptor> Kobe defensively

Kobe's "81" and his other scoring prowess (really just his 3pt shooting alone puts him above Wade) > Wade ability as a playmaker and efficient scorer.

It's not that difficult man :lol:. The part about accolades speaks to exactly why Kobe has the better career. The question was who's peak was best tho, and that's a whole nother question to me at least.
 
KD is better than LeBron

He proved that in the Finals last year >D
Yeah the Finals LeBron averaged a triple double in on great efficiency while KD arguably wasn’t even the best player on his team in that series :lol:

Also sad that addict is cosigning a troll but I digress.
 
If only stats told the whole story. But they never do
This is true.

Kobe- 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 11x 1st Team All-NBA
Lebron- 4x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 11x 1st Team All-NBA
Jordan- 5x MVP, 6x Finals MVP, 10x 1st Team All-NBA
 
Yeah the Finals LeBron averaged a triple double in on great efficiency while KD arguably wasn’t even the best player on his team in that series :lol:

Also sad that addict is cosigning a troll but I digress.

Averaging a triple double is cool and all but KD had the bigger impact. Game 3 when the Warriors erased that deficit, that was KD. Same game Lebron didn’t challenge Draymond at the rim only to kick it to an ice cold korver. I forget what game it was but there was a stretch in the second quarter Lebron didn’t score and the team blew a double digit lead while KD went to work. KD was protecting the rim while Lebron was getting beat on switches with JR Smith. KD was getting buckets in the second halves of games while Lebron was running out of gas.

I’m sure you’ll blame Lebrons teammates but he was outplayed by KD.
 
LeBron Finals- 34/12/10/1/1 on 56/39/65 shooting
KD Finals- 35/8/5/1/2 on 56/47/93 shooting

They were both incredible. KD certainly wasn't far and away better than Bron in the finals like some dudes in here make it out to be.
 
Averaging a triple double is cool and all but KD had the bigger impact. Game 3 when the Warriors erased that deficit, that was KD. Same game Lebron didn’t challenge Draymond at the rim only to kick it to an ice cold korver. I forget what game it was but there was a stretch in the second quarter Lebron didn’t score and the team blew a double digit lead while KD went to work. KD was protecting the rim while Lebron was getting beat on switches with JR Smith. KD was getting buckets in the second halves of games while Lebron was running out of gas.

I’m sure you’ll blame Lebrons teammates but he was outplayed by KD.
LeBron wasn’t outplayed
If you don’t see how the supporting casts played a factor then idk.
Cavs literally blew a 10 point lead in like 1 minute when LeBron went to the bench.
How was KD’s impact bigger when Steph was putting up similar numbers?
Warriors would’ve won that series without KD.
 
They were both incredible. KD certainly wasn't far and away better than Bron in the finals like some dudes in here make it out to be.
This is all I’m saying lol
But addict also said Steph outplayed LeBron in 2015 :lol:
 
LeBron wasn’t outplayed
If you don’t see how the supporting casts played a factor then idk.
Cavs literally blew a 10 point lead in like 1 minute when LeBron went to the bench.
How was KD’s impact bigger when Steph was putting up similar numbers?
Warriors would’ve won that series without KD.

It’s bigger than numbers. It’s when you score them.

 
I don’t engage with you on LeBron or Steph. Literally have never seen you be unbiased with either.

Cut it man :lol. I’m as unbiased as it can get with both. Bron can be the 6th-8th best player of all time and the 2nd best in the world right now.

And That’s ok. That’s not a slight. He still needs moar help and it’s still **** Bron Bron :hat
 
This is all I’m saying lol
But addict also said Steph outplayed LeBron in 2015 :lol:

Again, you can get enamored with these hollow numbers, but the Cavs were double teaming Steph out at half court which lead to open shots for Draymond and Iggy because they couldn’t. It’s literally the same thing as fisher and Horry getting open shots from Shaq being doubled.

Impact >>> numbers
 
So TF what
He made best decision for HIM!
**** if I had chance to leave a bum *** job for great position at a rival company that pays way more and better benefits you bet your *** I'm out

Bum *** job?

He blew a 3-1 lead, he wasn't on a lottery team.
 
LeBron’s workload was way higher than KD’s hence him being gassed in the 4th.
I mean if you wanna use that same logic Harden’s numbers and efficiency drop drastically in the 4th quarter but I’m sure you have him as your MVP.
 
Again, you can get enamored with these hollow numbers, but the Cavs were double teaming Steph out at half court which lead to open shots for Draymond and Iggy because they couldn’t. It’s literally the same thing as fisher and Horry getting open shots from Shaq being doubled.

Impact >>> numbers
Hollow numbers?
Bron wasn’t being doubled/damn near tripled every possession?
He didn’t single-handedly win 2 games? lol
No impact? You’re reaching
 
LeBron Finals- 34/12/10/1/1 on 56/39/65 shooting
KD Finals- 35/8/5/1/2 on 56/47/93 shooting

They were both incredible. KD certainly wasn't far and away better than Bron in the finals like some dudes in here make it out to be.

In every finals that Bron loses where his teams have lost by record finals margins (2014 & 2017)....he always cleverly pads his stats...while not playing defense.

That way...he can go and say...”look...I averaged a triple double, I did “my part”. 2016....Bron was amazing. That’s an all time great finals right there as much as I hate to admit it.

But 2014 and 2017...his impact wasn’t felt outside the box score...and well all know and saw it.
 
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