OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

  • No. 8

    Votes: 29 49.2%
  • No. 24

    Votes: 30 50.8%

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I'm over the who switched teams the right or wrong way argument.not that serious. Every NBA teams goal should be to build the most talented team possible.
 
I omitted Kobes 1st 4 years and started when he 1st won a championship.
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Harden has lost to 3 of the greatest teams ever by SRS. The only time I'll say he's choked was against Portland.

This is the First time iv'e heard of SRS so i decided to look up Melo's Who always gets flack for not doing "more" in the playoffs..... i tend to bring up that he played GREAT teams every year but that never seems to matter

These are the SRS for teams he got eliminated by
5.8
7.84
1.75
8.35
7.34
7.11
5.33
4.83
5.72

(For reference the 73-9 Warriors are at 10.38)

This has nothing to do with our original convo but i just wanted to post these numbers for people who act like Melo was some kind of underachiever or never that good. Dude was fighting some extremely good teams through those years.
 
Rockets may upset the Dubs this year.

Their 3 ball game better also. Their death lineup of Harden, Paul, Gordon, Ariza/Anderson and Capella/Tucker can def keep up with the Dubs.
 
Yo im starting to think Harden was really concussed in game 5

This year Horford, Adams, Rivers have all gotten concussed on plays that didn't look all that bad.
 
Just maybe because he's leaps and bounds more efficient at scoring in the playoffs than Westbrook.

Leaps & Bounds :lol::lol:

there literal splits in the playoffs (I'm only Counting James in HOU as Requested)

James - 41/32/88
Russ - 41/30/84

WTF are you talking about my guy....... i'm gonna be told field goal percentages don't matter and i have to Multiply his shots by infinity, then divide it by the amount Of hardens chin hair to get the true percentage........ Both are extremely inefficient when it counts.
 
Leaps & Bounds :lol::lol:

there literal splits in the playoffs (I'm only Counting James in HOU as Requested)

James - 41/32/88
Russ - 41/30/84

WTF are you talking about my guy....... i'm gonna be told field goal percentages don't matter and i have to Multiply his shots by infinity, then divide it by the amount Of hardens chin hair to get the true percentage........ Both are extremely inefficient when it counts.


The people you're talking to don't know what a TS is :lol:

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aite man, dudes is making up fake symptoms to defend Harden now....... my lord

@ donknock from clutchfans pointed this out



  • Then after the next play (where Harden scores) when the camera cuts to a close up of him he shakes his head like he's trying to reorient himself.
  • Then two plays after that he lumbers around on defense very flatfooted even by his standards.
  • The next time he has the ball he almost falls over trying to turn the corner on Mills and then he eventually does fall over when Mills bumps him.
  • When Simmons draws the offensive foul on him, rather than react demonstratively to the ref (like he normally does) he just walks towards the other end of the court with a spaced out look on his face.
  • He has virtually no expression when Mills makes the buzzer beater as well.
  • Next, Simmons gets a poke away from behind when Harden does not turn the corner with his usual burst.
  • Then when Harden guards Aldridge in the post he is stumbling around again, it even looks like he might have been holding on to Aldridge to stabilize himself
  • After he makes the pass off on the next play, Mills comes to box him out for the rebound and Harden topples over completely.
  • When Danny Green makes the layup on him he once again walks around with a spaced out look on his face.
His balance and proprioception were visibly thrown off. At times here he looks like a boxer that is on the ropes. We have a clear point of reference of a head injury (initial contact from Pau). His outside shot wasn't falling, possibly due to light sensitivity. Even on his drives he didn't go through contact the same way he normally does, instead he passed it off or tried to finish around the defender.


Horford missed a couple of games on nearly an identical foul

 
Leaps & Bounds :lol::lol:

there literal splits in the playoffs (I'm only Counting James in HOU as Requested)

James - 41/32/88
Russ - 41/30/84

WTF are you talking about my guy....... i'm gonna be told field goal percentages don't matter and i have to Multiply his shots by infinity, then divide it by the amount Of hardens chin hair to get the true percentage........ Both are extremely inefficient when it counts.

Harden shoots more free throws therefore his epic playoff choke jobs are more impressive
 
@ donknock from clutchfans pointed this out



  • Then after the next play (where Harden scores) when the camera cuts to a close up of him he shakes his head like he's trying to reorient himself.
  • Then two plays after that he lumbers around on defense very flatfooted even by his standards.
  • The next time he has the ball he almost falls over trying to turn the corner on Mills and then he eventually does fall over when Mills bumps him.
  • When Simmons draws the offensive foul on him, rather than react demonstratively to the ref (like he normally does) he just walks towards the other end of the court with a spaced out look on his face.
  • He has virtually no expression when Mills makes the buzzer beater as well.
  • Next, Simmons gets a poke away from behind when Harden does not turn the corner with his usual burst.
  • Then when Harden guards Aldridge in the post he is stumbling around again, it even looks like he might have been holding on to Aldridge to stabilize himself
  • After he makes the pass off on the next play, Mills comes to box him out for the rebound and Harden topples over completely.
  • When Danny Green makes the layup on him he once again walks around with a spaced out look on his face.
His balance and proprioception were visibly thrown off. At times here he looks like a boxer that is on the ropes. We have a clear point of reference of a head injury (initial contact from Pau). His outside shot wasn't falling, possibly due to light sensitivity. Even on his drives he didn't go through contact the same way he normally does, instead he passed it off or tried to finish around the defender.


Horford missed a couple of games on nearly an identical foul



My guy i'm not getting a PHD to examine why Harden had a bumass game :lol:
 
Harden shoots more free throws therefore his epic playoff choke jobs are more impressive

don't forget Threes!!! i know he's only making them at a 32% clip but him missing the three is so much more efficient than missing that two.... I know they're both worth 0 points BUT IF.... Whooooooo efficiency
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