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Which Kobe was better

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Am I the only one who doesnt understand the Lebron to Philly fit? You can't really have 4/5 of your lineup be mediocre 3 pt shooters.
 
if i was a betting man...

lebron stays in cleveland
trades that 8th pick
and prays someone takes jr, tt, and other big contracts
LBJ is gunning for Kareem's record more than anything

and will still lose to the warriors in the finals. prepare for cavs/dubs part V, VI, VII, VIII, and possibly IX

Lebron is gone. He didn't want the Cavs to trade Kyrie and they did, he hates Dan Gilbert and they're capped out. They're paying TT, Clarkson and George hill a combined $46m for the next two years, they have no room to improve. I think he goes to LA and joins PG and makes a run there.

Also, this is the last year of this Cavs team making the Finals. They're only getting older and slower and a healthy Celtics team smashes them.
 
Am I the only one who doesnt understand the Lebron to Philly fit? You can't really have 4/5 of your lineup be mediocre 3 pt shooters.

The fit is terrible. I think it's just a matter of putting the best talent on the floor and figuring it out. And if Bron does go to Philly they definitely giving him free reign to trade whomever he wants to fit more of his style of play.
 
If Lebby becomes scorer Lebby it could work in philly

Simmons can’t be passive and can’t be a non shooter with Lebby but if Lebby changes his focus to score first it would work better
 
I have no idea how anyone could watch this dude play basketball during these playoffs and think "yeah, I don't want that dude on the Lakers", unless it involves "I can't stand him, therefore I can't root for him" reasons. But as far as basketball reasons? Really? He's one of the 5 best players of all time, he's the current best player in the world on top of that, he's available as a free agent and, thus, we don't have to trade anyone to get him, and many of y'all don't want him?

You're an instant contender with this man, and we don't have to gut the young core to acquire him. He would be coming almost certainly with one of the best two-way wings in the sport in PG, and the rest of the team would have an upward trajectory due to the youthful assets, whether they just stayed and got better or whether we traded one or more of those assets for even more All-Star talent.

I'm starting to believe to that the "keep the young core at all costs" people just want an excuse not to get Lebron. Some people think we trying to set up a Golden State dynasty with the current core. I personally don't see that potential with our crew even though I love them and many of us think they do. Even if they are that great, don't you think the Warriors would have signed a 33 year old Lebron in 2013? Maybe there are people insecure that Lebron winning here would diminish Kobe's legacy which it wouldn't.

Also someone in the LA sports media needs to educate the general fanbase that getting Lebron won't cost the entire young core. What I hear from most fans is that they don't want Lebron because all the young pieces would be gone which isn't the case.

There are Lakers fan with the mentality that "I'd rather lose without Lebron than win with him" :lol::lol::lol:. We're the only fanbase that doesn't want to add the best player in the league because of loyalty to a retired player. :lol:
 
it'd be interesting if he goes to LA. the nba would have to try and max out both lakers and warriors for the late gms on prime time. would assume philly would get more national tv gms
 
You're completely naive if you think Bron is going to come here and not want to play GM. Magic unfortunately will bend to his whim and we're going to end up selling the farm for Kawhi to compete for 2 years maybe as this dude Bron finishes his mercenary tour. The timeline doesn't match up with the young guys we have.

Not even getting into the on court fit and him turning everybody into spot up shooters hindering the development of the young dudes.
 
You're completely naive if you think Bron is going to come here and not want to play GM. Magic unfortunately will bend to his whim and we're going to end up selling the farm for Kawhi to compete for 2 years maybe as this dude Bron finishes his mercenary tour. The timeline doesn't match up with the young guys we have.

kawhi is only 26. pg is 28. you give up every piece if you can have these two for the next 5 yrs and that doesnt even include bron coming and filling the roster with vets
 
kawhi is only 26. pg is 28. you give up every piece if you can have these two for the next 5 yrs and that doesnt even include bron coming and filling the roster with vets

Kawhi + PG + keeping the young guys = competing and contending for the next decade as they continue to get better. Bron rushes and shortens that timeline.
 
I have no idea how anyone could watch this dude play basketball during these playoffs and think "yeah, I don't want that dude on the Lakers", unless it involves "I can't stand him, therefore I can't root for him" reasons. But as far as basketball reasons? Really? He's one of the 5 best players of all time, he's the current best player in the world on top of that, he's available as a free agent and, thus, we don't have to trade anyone to get him, and many of y'all don't want him?

You're an instant contender with this man, and we don't have to gut the young core to acquire him. He would be coming almost certainly with one of the best two-way wings in the sport in PG, and the rest of the team would have an upward trajectory due to the youthful assets, whether they just stayed and got better or whether we traded one or more of those assets for even more All-Star talent.

I'm starting to believe to that the "keep the young core at all costs" people just want an excuse not to get Lebron. Some people think we trying to set up a Golden State dynasty with the current core. I personally don't see that potential with our crew even though I love them and many of us think they do. Even if they are that great, don't you think the Warriors would have signed a 33 year old Lebron in 2013? Maybe there are people insecure that Lebron winning here would diminish Kobe's legacy which it wouldn't.

Also someone in the LA sports media needs to educate the general fanbase that getting Lebron won't cost the entire young core. What I hear from most fans is that they don't want Lebron because all the young pieces would be gone which isn't the case.

There are Lakers fan with the mentality that "I'd rather lose without Lebron than win with him" :lol::lol::lol:. We're the only fanbase that doesn't want to add the best player in the league because of loyalty to a retired player. :lol:

Literally none of the people in the Lakers thread that don't want him share the rationale you just explained, that's a whole lot of typing for an opinion you think exists.
 
Honestly though, who has Lebron gotten traded? The only trade I can remember is the Kevin Love trade where they gave us Wiggins (kinda bust) and Bennett (allt-ime bust) for Love which is an all-time great trade IMO. The bigger issue is Lebron trying to play GM and giving his friends big contracts (i.e Tristan Thompson)
 
Am I the only one who doesnt understand the Lebron to Philly fit? You can't really have 4/5 of your lineup be mediocre 3 pt shooters.

Ben is the only non-shooter in the lineup. JJ Redick is a top 5 shooter in the entire league. Dario and Embiid are both good shooters. Did you watch any of our games this year? We were shooting threes like crazy. It was basically Ben, Embiid and a bunch of shooters. LeBron gives us the other playmaker we need.
 
Honestly though, who has Lebron gotten traded? The only trade I can remember is the Kevin Love trade where they gave us Wiggins (kinda bust) and Bennett (allt-ime bust) for Love which is an all-time great trade IMO. The bigger issue is Lebron trying to play GM and giving his friends big contracts (i.e Tristan Thompson)

if those guys werent signed with klutch, lebron would've dropped them. that was his mistake and nobody else to blame for his current cap situation
 
The Sixers and Lakers are the only teams that even make sense right now. I just don’t know if he truly wants to take the risk of finishing up his career in the Western Conference though.
 

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Ben is the only non-shooter in the lineup. JJ Redick is a top 5 shooter in the entire league. Dario and Embiid are both good shooters. Did you watch any of our games this year? We were shooting threes like crazy. It was basically Ben, Embiid and a bunch of shooters. LeBron gives us the other playmaker we need.

Im guessing if Lebron goes there they would start Fultz or maybe they just completely give up on him. But Embiid is a 30% 3pt shooter, Simmons is awful, lebron is 36%, Fultz is awful, and then Redick who is fantastic.

A lineup of Ben/Dario/Lebron/Embiid/Redick seems redundant at many different levels.
 
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Embiid is a really good shooter from anywhere on the floor for a center. I really don’t care about you pointing out his three point percentage this year. He put up way too many dumb ones that lowered his percentage. Every center in the league still is scared of him shooting from out there and continues biting on his pump fake.
 
Embiid is a really good shooter from anywhere on the floor for a center. I really don’t care about you pointing out his three point percentage this year. He put up way too many dumb ones that lowered his percentage. Every center in the league still is scared of him shooting from out there and continues biting on his pump fake.

I mean, he damn near put up the exact same amount of threes per game this year as last year. He shot even worse in the playoffs at 27%.
 
Fultz not starting in any scenario is a failure

It should be

Fultz
JJ
Lebby
Simmons
Embiid

If they can’t retain JJ because of Lebby then

Simmons
Fultz
Lebby
Dario
Embiid
 
Im guessing if Lebron goes there they would start Fultz or maybe they just completely give up on him. But Embiid is a 30% 3pt shooter, Simmons is awful, lebron is 36%, Fultz is awful, and then Redick who is fantastic.

A lineup of Ben/Dario/Lebron/Embiid/Redick seems redundant at many different levels.

Ben would be literally the only player in that lineup not a shooting threat. I’m failing to see the redundancy in any of the 5 of them besides LeBron and Ben both being big *** point forwards. Dario can bring up the ball too and create for others. They’re the #1 passing team in the league...LeBron would have no problem playing with any of them.
 
Ben would be literally the only player in that lineup not a shooting threat. I’m failing to see the redundancy in any of the 5 of them besides LeBron and Ben both being big *** point forwards. Dario can bring up the ball too and create for others. They’re the #1 passing team in the league...LeBron would have no problem playing with any of them.

There is a difference between being a shooting threat and being a good shooter. Draymond is a threat to shoot the ball, but he is a poor shooter. JJ would be the only above average three point shooter on that team. Lebron is about average, and the other 3 are poor three point shooters (assuming Fultz starts). At some point, teams are going to have to pick their poison and would just let everyone but Lebron and JJ shoot threes and pack in the paint. Teams may legitimately be able to play zone against that lineup.

They will still be a really damn good team just based off talent alone, but I can't see that team winning a championship unless either Ben/Lebron/Embiid significantly changed their playing style.
 
Embiid is a really good shooter from anywhere on the floor for a center. I really don’t care about you pointing out his three point percentage this year. He put up way too many dumb ones that lowered his percentage. Every center in the league still is scared of him shooting from out there and continues biting on his pump fake.

Taking a lot of dumb shots means you're not a good shooter. Somebody biting on your pump fake doesn't make you a good shooter
 
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