OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

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    Votes: 29 49.2%
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    Votes: 30 50.8%

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People were begging Gordon Hayward to join their squad last year lol. Shhhhheeet, people were out there begging DEANDRE JORDAN a few seasons ago :lol: Any Star/superstar player is going to be courted
 
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I think you guys overblow LeBron's power over a franchise in terms of making moves.
LeBron held the Cavs hostage the whole time he was in Cleveland v2

Literally 90% of the moves he wanted to be made, were made.

The other 10% weren't made because they were counter moves to LeBron first demands
 
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He really should. If he's serious about wanting to win another chip and not chase stats, he should.

I'm not the biggest bron fan or hater, he's right in the middle with me, and he's great...but I've come around on the whole stat padding, big russ thing with him. (Although he's in another stratosphere as a player in all aspects)

You really can't have a player in today's NBA playing 40 minutes a night, dominating the ball, standing and not moving when he doesn't have it, and not playing defense the way Lebron does and expect to win. He gets away with it because of inferior competition but he'll never come close to winning a chip again IMO unless he actually employs a more team centric brand of play.

Granted roster / organizational construction played a role in how he played and moved in Cleveland, (he played a part in this though) so hopefully wherever he goes next is a team where he doesn't play 40 minutes a night hijacking the ball and running up his stats and is actually playing for chips instead. The Warriors are the warriors so it's not like LBJ changing would mean an auto chip for him, but stylistically in 2018 it gets you closer to the warriors, especially if he goes a team like Houston or Philly where he doesn't need to hijack the team the way he did in Cleveland.

One mo gain for the people in the back

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A lot of how he played this year was a function of not having Kyrie. Usage rate obviously isn't a be-all-end-all stat, but this is how they've looked in these past few years...

2016
LeBron: Regular Season- 31.4%, Playoffs- 30.7%
Kyrie: Regular Season- 29.5%, Playoffs- 30.4%
Love: Regular Season- 23.4%, Playoffs- 22.5%

2017
LeBron: Regular Season- 30%, Playoffs- 31.6%
Kyrie: Regular Season- 30.8%, Playoffs- 31.1%
Love: Regular Season- 26.4%, Playoffs- 21.8%

2018
LeBron: Regular Season- 31.6%, Playoffs- 35%
Love: Regular Season- 25.1%, Playoffs- 24.3%
Hill: Regular Season- 15.4%, Playoffs- 14.6%

Bron and Kyrie were basically equal in usage when they were together and the offense ran significantly more smoothly. Defense has always been an issue for the Cavs, but at least the offense was clicking with those two leading the way. This year's team was completely reliant on LeBron orchestrating the entire offense, and them being able to knock down 3s, which simply didn't happen in the Finals this year. Pieces like JR/TT/Korver are definitely still there because of LeBron, and that has hurt the team. Would've been interested to see how a different GM would've handled some of those contracts, especially coming off a championship win.

He really just needs to be alongside another guard/wing creator that can take some of that load off of him and then have a better 3-8 supporting cast than he had this year, which shouldn't be too hard for him to find.
Thought it was very lazy of Lue to not give Love more of a playmaking role. Instead he just continued to utilize 75% of his repertoire.

He could’ve copied a lot of those high post/3pt line sets that Malone uses for Jokic.
 
id really like to see how ben simmons and lebron james would work

seems like a disaster for ben simmons

but first id like to see lebron on the lakers!

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It’s prob how it was when lakers swept the magic

I wasn’t in here back then but I’m sure everyone knew that series was going to be one sided
 
It's like every team out there is a forced fit for Lebron

The ideal Lebron team is a team that can play off the ball and thrives with him handling the ball a lot, but the rockets have two ball dominant players in Harden and Cp3. Kyrie don't wanna play with him. Ben Simmons growth would really be stunted..I think that kid needs to be the primary ball handler.

I would like the Bucks for Lebron if they had more shooters. I can see Giannis thriving off the ball.
 
Houston would have arguably the 3 best passers in the league if LeBron went there. They would be perfectly fine.

I also don't think the LeBron/Simmons pairing is as bad as people are making it out to be. Ben would still be doing plenty of creating and taking that load off LeBron.
 
Houston would have arguably the 3 best passers in the league if LeBron went there. They would be perfectly fine.

I also don't think the LeBron/Simmons pairing is as bad as people are making it out to be. Ben would still be doing plenty of creating and taking that load off LeBron.
Bron wants a secondary ball handler
Simmons is that and a phenomenal play maker. He hasn’t had a passer of that caliber by his side. Imagine a fast break with those two
 
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