shoeking2101
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2k12 grading system is what pissed me off
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This.
2K12 was different from 11 but it wasnt hard to learn the new controls. I actually liked that they changed it for 2k12 because in 11 all everyone did was eurostep in the lane with WHOEVER was on the team, or they would just hop step in the paint and pumpfake a lot lol. I remember someone tried euro stepping on me with ******g Shaq!
I hope they do something like this for 13 also.
All of this. Euro-step was close to unguardable in 2k11. Takes way more skill to pull it off in 2k12. As for the hop step
...That was one of my go to moves in 2k11 and now I cant get it down with the joystick in 2k12.
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If they don't let us play with some cot damn Olympic teams already >:
Also, enough with the half-court charges, ridiculous player ratings, and rebounding difficulty.
They could give us the next entire Jay studio album as the soundtrack for all I care. Unless they start addressing gameplay issues, I'm not sold.
Also, enough with the half-court charges, ridiculous player ratings, and rebounding difficulty.
They could give us the next entire Jay studio album as the soundtrack for all I care. Unless they start addressing gameplay issues, I'm not sold.
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Just go to the post man. My PG is a 66 in my player & I'm averaging 35 on 60% shooting. It would be more but I wanna lead the league in assists too so I can get that milestone.if they make this game any harder than before than SMH
i still cant do hop steps and score of spin moves
You can murder dudes online with that too if you have a guy like Kobe who has a nice fadeaway. You can do that or do up & unders. They either concede the fadeaway or they try to block it & you have a layup.
Or they'll control the center & you can pass mid-shot to whoever they leave open when he rotates the center over to you.
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Your averaging 35 with a PG in my player
What difficulty do you play on?And Kobe's fadeaway is almost a guaranteed 2 points :x
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Hall of Fame, and yeah if your opponent tries to block that deadly fadeaway just do an up & under and you're good. It's either a layup or a foul.
Your averaging 35 with a PG in my player
And Kobe's fadeaway is almost a guaranteed 2 points :x
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I just want a ranked lobby and a Leaderboard that actually make sense
Kirilenko is back, LeBron about to be pedestrian again
Knicks & Twolves this year until I get bored. Then I'll use the even lesser teams
Kirilenko is back, LeBron about to be pedestrian again
Knicks & Twolves this year until I get bored. Then I'll use the even lesser teams
Ja's 2¢
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The spin move frustrated the hell out of me. Every time I tried doing the move in the post, a damn charging foul would be called. Euro step is deadly if used right. Hop step was clutch with a post player.
Rondo's up and under ball move is
Rondo's up and under ball move is
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For My Player? That grading system is way too damn easy man. I wish they would let me fix it for them. It is too easy to get an A
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Truth. Once you figured out what it wanted, it was real easy. Just set picks and box out.
I just hated the "Bad call of pass" mark down. I'm the point and the 2 just got the rebound deep in the paint, surrounded by the other teams big, how in the hell is it a bad to call for the ball and reset?!?
Not to mention, "held the ball too long", while you're screaming "CUT STUPID!!" at the TV.
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Am I the only one that's sick of the damb CPU on your team not playing at all ,they don't Do anything at all just stand there on offense and defense it's so sickening ,especially since the CPU your playing against be going so hard.its been that way forever an they still haven changed it.makes me me sick but I still play.its the only nba simulation out there.
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The Lakers are gonna be so nasty in this game
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i play with the grizzlies. i hate when you have a 2 on 1 fastbreak and just as u throw the lob your partner stops and u throw the ball out of bounds.
and for some reason marc gasol is always behind the 3 point line like he's a shooter :x
and for some reason marc gasol is always behind the 3 point line like he's a shooter :x
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Lakers in this game with Dwight :x
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2k13 is gonna be crazy. The Heat, Lakers, OKC= most used teams online. Teams im looking forward to mastering are Suns, T-Wolves, Rockets and Nuggets.
hongcouver604
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Already know which teams I'm gonna use.
Rockets
Wolves
Mavs
Hornets
Lakers
Rockets
Wolves
Mavs
Hornets
Lakers
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Lakers in this game with Dwight :x
:x:x:x:x:x:x:x
[tyga]***** I'm RAW, turn the oven on, chef PAPA JOHN, I get the parmesan...[/tyga]
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THIS x 100000
$30 pre order for PC version? Might have to do that. Just gotta pick up a receiver ...
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dont think olympic team will happen anytime soon since rights and etc are too complicated to get the olympic team on the game.
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get the pc version and play the mods
i've been playing olympic teams for 2k11 and 2k12 and it's fun.
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For those with PC version ..
You guys use a receiver or a PC Xbox controller?
You guys use a receiver or a PC Xbox controller?
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my go to team in 2k just got better s/o to mitch kupchak
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Top of the morning courtesy of OperationSports
2K13 preview courtesy of Polygon.com
[h1]For 'NBA 2K13,' 'accessible' isn't a dirty word[/h1]
By Samit Sarkar on
August 10, 2012 08:00 am
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"You want the cool stuff to be accessible at any level," said NBA 2K13 senior producer Rob Jones, during a recent phone interview with Polygon.
Jones was speaking specifically about developer Visual Concepts' decision to shift control of dribble moves to the right analog stick — a major change from which the studio isn't looking back — but the sentiment applies to sports video games in general.
2K Sports' basketball franchise reached an unprecedented level of critical, commercial, and cultural success with its previous two releases. Not only did NBA 2K11 and 2K12 set new sales records for 2K Sports, they also catapulted the series into a cross-cultural awareness that few other video game properties enjoy.
Success on that level — to date, 2K Sports has sold more than 5 million copies of NBA 2K12 — often comes with calls for a more accessible game, one that novices and die-hards alike can enjoy. This year, Visual Concepts is answering those calls, but they're not ignoring the cries of hardcore fans, either.
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Dribble moves are a vital element in any basketball player's arsenal; the sheer variety of techniques available to the most skilled ball-handlers allows them to toy with defenders and give themselves the best scoring opportunities. Previous NBA 2K titles featured a wide array of dribble moves, most of which were engaged by holding the left trigger and moving the left stick. Known as "Isomotion," this setup was not unlike a fighting game's combo system in its requirements of memory and finger dexterity. You had to know the various trigger/stick combinations and quarter-circle rotations in order to pull off slick-looking chains of moves that would embarrass a defender, and because Isomotion was situation-dependent, you needed to memorize multiple sets of moves.
"Everybody wanted to control their ball-handling moves in a way that felt more akin to real life than what Isomotion would allow us to do," Jones told Polygon, adding that "in order to build that into the left stick, we would've had to introduce a delay" — exactly what you don't want in a sports game. He also explained that losing the Shot Stick "wasn't an option" for Visual Concepts, so the team had to design a system that was more responsive and more accessible, without eliminating the depth demanded by hardcore players or completely abandoning existing control schemes.
Enter the Control Stick. Visual Concepts mapped all dribble moves onto the right stick in NBA 2K13, and Jones insists the new setup is the way of the future. For one thing, it lets everyone, regardless of their skill level, do awesome moves. "If you just throw the right stick around, you're gonna get cool stuff," said Jones, and indeed, we found it much easier to get around defenders — and look good doing it — by manipulating the right stick. And it allows you to more easily and fluidly chain together dribble moves and shots.
NBA 2K12's new scheme is also much more conceptually intuitive: think of it as controlling your feet with the left stick and your hands with the right, similar to the skate/stick setup in EA Sports' NHL series. In addition, the Control Stick unifies certain previously disparate suites of dribble moves, making them easier to understand and learn. The commands for moves in the post, for example, are now identical to those used when facing up a defender; it's a change that makes sense and makes you wonder why things haven't worked this way until now.
"If you just throw the right stick around, you're gonna get cool stuff"
Of course, NBA 2K13 still requires a time investment from players who want to dribble circles around their opponents, so newbies won't quite be on an even plane with longtime NBA 2K players. Jones describes the Control Stick as having an early learning curve with a big reward for players' time investment. When asked if the old system would still be available, Jones said that Visual Concepts discussed it, but he doesn't think that will be the case in the final game. "When you make a change this big, you want people to adopt it as quickly as possible," he explained.
Everyone will appreciate the new real-time physics system for collisions, which makes shots in the paint much more dynamic. A player going up for a lay-in can now get realistically bumped by defenders, altering his path through the air — as well as that of his shot. These aren't canned animations for contact; everything depends on the momentum of the players involved.
Another improvement NBA 2K fans will notice is passing, which Visual Concepts acknowledges has been a problem area in the past. "Passing is one of the toughest, toughest aspects of the game," said Jones, and to address it, the team dedicated a gameplay engineer to passing alone. Passes tended to feel floaty, and Jones explained the reason: the game prioritized the appearance of a pass and catch, so it had to keep passes slow in order to ensure that a receiver's hands lined up with the ball's position.
Visual Concepts "finally decoupled passing and catching" in NBA 2K13, which fixes that problem while introducing a greater chance of errant passes. "It's not as canned as it was before," Jones told Polygon, which is a good thing: the developers realized that previous NBA 2K titles had too few loose balls compared to real-life NBA games. The team also worked on pass targeting, although much of that comes down to a user's incorrect perception of their left-stick aiming. According to Jones, "there's about a 30-degree difference" between the direction in which most players thought they aimed and the truth. But thanks to those improvements, plus a new control option for user-initiated bounce passes (holding the left trigger and pressing the pass button), NBA 2K13 will let players better direct the flow of the game through passing.
Other changes and additions are indicative of Visual Concepts' desire to open up NBA 2K13 to a wider audience. The Control Stick isn't the only streamlining the team has done; this year, calling for a pick is as simple as holding down the left bumper. And the hop step move, which the developers removed for NBA 2K12 — much to the chagrin of many fans — is back, on the B/circle button.
Visual Concepts also wanted to do a better job of differentiating players and highlighting their particular strengths. So NBA 2K13 incorporates 2K Sports' Signature Skills tags, with a list of abilities that have a material, though perhaps not quantifiable, effect in the game. Most Signature Skills affect probability rather than ratings; "we didn't really want to go there," said Jones, pointing out that attributes alone don't convey players' talents well enough. "Brick Wall" gives players like Kendrick Perkins a better chance of knocking down a player with a pick. Derrick Rose is a "Floor General," a Skill that increases his team's offensive awareness. Each player can have up to five Signature Skills, and they all have recognizable icons to let gamers know which ones a player possesses.
It's all part of Visual Concepts' twofold focus in making NBA 2K13 — the same line that most sports game developers try to toe: making the gameplay as good as they can, while ensuring that it's enjoyable for as broad an audience as possible. The changes coming this year seem geared toward accessibility, but they don't appear to sacrifice the franchise's acclaimed gameplay.
2K13 preview courtesy of Polygon.com
[h1]For 'NBA 2K13,' 'accessible' isn't a dirty word[/h1]
By Samit Sarkar on
August 10, 2012 08:00 am
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"You want the cool stuff to be accessible at any level," said NBA 2K13 senior producer Rob Jones, during a recent phone interview with Polygon.
Jones was speaking specifically about developer Visual Concepts' decision to shift control of dribble moves to the right analog stick — a major change from which the studio isn't looking back — but the sentiment applies to sports video games in general.
2K Sports' basketball franchise reached an unprecedented level of critical, commercial, and cultural success with its previous two releases. Not only did NBA 2K11 and 2K12 set new sales records for 2K Sports, they also catapulted the series into a cross-cultural awareness that few other video game properties enjoy.
Success on that level — to date, 2K Sports has sold more than 5 million copies of NBA 2K12 — often comes with calls for a more accessible game, one that novices and die-hards alike can enjoy. This year, Visual Concepts is answering those calls, but they're not ignoring the cries of hardcore fans, either.
[h3]'NBA 2K13' screenshots[/h3]
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Dribble moves are a vital element in any basketball player's arsenal; the sheer variety of techniques available to the most skilled ball-handlers allows them to toy with defenders and give themselves the best scoring opportunities. Previous NBA 2K titles featured a wide array of dribble moves, most of which were engaged by holding the left trigger and moving the left stick. Known as "Isomotion," this setup was not unlike a fighting game's combo system in its requirements of memory and finger dexterity. You had to know the various trigger/stick combinations and quarter-circle rotations in order to pull off slick-looking chains of moves that would embarrass a defender, and because Isomotion was situation-dependent, you needed to memorize multiple sets of moves.
"Everybody wanted to control their ball-handling moves in a way that felt more akin to real life than what Isomotion would allow us to do," Jones told Polygon, adding that "in order to build that into the left stick, we would've had to introduce a delay" — exactly what you don't want in a sports game. He also explained that losing the Shot Stick "wasn't an option" for Visual Concepts, so the team had to design a system that was more responsive and more accessible, without eliminating the depth demanded by hardcore players or completely abandoning existing control schemes.
Enter the Control Stick. Visual Concepts mapped all dribble moves onto the right stick in NBA 2K13, and Jones insists the new setup is the way of the future. For one thing, it lets everyone, regardless of their skill level, do awesome moves. "If you just throw the right stick around, you're gonna get cool stuff," said Jones, and indeed, we found it much easier to get around defenders — and look good doing it — by manipulating the right stick. And it allows you to more easily and fluidly chain together dribble moves and shots.
NBA 2K12's new scheme is also much more conceptually intuitive: think of it as controlling your feet with the left stick and your hands with the right, similar to the skate/stick setup in EA Sports' NHL series. In addition, the Control Stick unifies certain previously disparate suites of dribble moves, making them easier to understand and learn. The commands for moves in the post, for example, are now identical to those used when facing up a defender; it's a change that makes sense and makes you wonder why things haven't worked this way until now.
"If you just throw the right stick around, you're gonna get cool stuff"
Of course, NBA 2K13 still requires a time investment from players who want to dribble circles around their opponents, so newbies won't quite be on an even plane with longtime NBA 2K players. Jones describes the Control Stick as having an early learning curve with a big reward for players' time investment. When asked if the old system would still be available, Jones said that Visual Concepts discussed it, but he doesn't think that will be the case in the final game. "When you make a change this big, you want people to adopt it as quickly as possible," he explained.
Everyone will appreciate the new real-time physics system for collisions, which makes shots in the paint much more dynamic. A player going up for a lay-in can now get realistically bumped by defenders, altering his path through the air — as well as that of his shot. These aren't canned animations for contact; everything depends on the momentum of the players involved.
Another improvement NBA 2K fans will notice is passing, which Visual Concepts acknowledges has been a problem area in the past. "Passing is one of the toughest, toughest aspects of the game," said Jones, and to address it, the team dedicated a gameplay engineer to passing alone. Passes tended to feel floaty, and Jones explained the reason: the game prioritized the appearance of a pass and catch, so it had to keep passes slow in order to ensure that a receiver's hands lined up with the ball's position.
Visual Concepts "finally decoupled passing and catching" in NBA 2K13, which fixes that problem while introducing a greater chance of errant passes. "It's not as canned as it was before," Jones told Polygon, which is a good thing: the developers realized that previous NBA 2K titles had too few loose balls compared to real-life NBA games. The team also worked on pass targeting, although much of that comes down to a user's incorrect perception of their left-stick aiming. According to Jones, "there's about a 30-degree difference" between the direction in which most players thought they aimed and the truth. But thanks to those improvements, plus a new control option for user-initiated bounce passes (holding the left trigger and pressing the pass button), NBA 2K13 will let players better direct the flow of the game through passing.
Other changes and additions are indicative of Visual Concepts' desire to open up NBA 2K13 to a wider audience. The Control Stick isn't the only streamlining the team has done; this year, calling for a pick is as simple as holding down the left bumper. And the hop step move, which the developers removed for NBA 2K12 — much to the chagrin of many fans — is back, on the B/circle button.
Visual Concepts also wanted to do a better job of differentiating players and highlighting their particular strengths. So NBA 2K13 incorporates 2K Sports' Signature Skills tags, with a list of abilities that have a material, though perhaps not quantifiable, effect in the game. Most Signature Skills affect probability rather than ratings; "we didn't really want to go there," said Jones, pointing out that attributes alone don't convey players' talents well enough. "Brick Wall" gives players like Kendrick Perkins a better chance of knocking down a player with a pick. Derrick Rose is a "Floor General," a Skill that increases his team's offensive awareness. Each player can have up to five Signature Skills, and they all have recognizable icons to let gamers know which ones a player possesses.
It's all part of Visual Concepts' twofold focus in making NBA 2K13 — the same line that most sports game developers try to toe: making the gameplay as good as they can, while ensuring that it's enjoyable for as broad an audience as possible. The changes coming this year seem geared toward accessibility, but they don't appear to sacrifice the franchise's acclaimed gameplay.
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Kevin Durant doesn't have muscles like that. I'm not buying this game.
