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The Cavs were going to take on contracts? I doubt it.
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could have sworn lakers started back to back to back this season
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you just answered your own question
they had a chance to ship Jrich or Hedo to rockets
and i think the nets were even willing to take on Jrich before the JJ trade
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what are these new CBA / S&T rules?
Also if magic wait till next summer for a S&T they gonna end up with like 2-3 mid to late 1st rounderswatch.
Magic New GM had a chance, he couldve blown up the team, shipped out Jrich / Hedo and not taking back Jameer, sucked it up for for this for the next few years and built some lottery talent, but now hes backed himself into a corner for being stubbon / greedy.
Starting next offseason, if you are $4mil over luxury tax.. You cannot acquire players through S&T.
Lakers clearly are.
Nets have $75mil tied in DWill, JJ, Crash, Humph, Brook
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The Rockets deal was their best bet the whole time if they were going to trade him this offseason...
The Nets wouldn't have worked because they still would've had to have taken back Brook Lopez on a max contract AND possibly Kris Humphries on a deal similar to what the Nets just inked, so you're essentially swapping one bad contract for another. The Lakers and Cavs weren't going to clear space and there was no reason in the world for them to even be entertaining that whole ordeal.
If Hennigan was going to trade Dwight, it would've been to Houston. None of the other deals made any sense. I just don't agree with the people acting like he's completely blown this situation...
Next offseason you'll have Dallas and Atlanta completely burning away cap space to get their hands on Dwight and/or Chris Paul. There will inevitably be other teams, too... At that point, Dwight's options are limited, so he can't make demands. In theory, they'll still be able dump Hedo or JRich on someone without taking anything back.
There will still be teams with cap space and there will still be teams desperate to sign Dwight.
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He should get used to being in the back of the line with the way Minnesota is collecting these white players.
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Lets say they ship out Humph / Brook wouldnt that techinically bring them out down from Luxury Tax and allow them to take D12? or that rule is set once the season is over in terms of cap / tax / etc ? Loopholes ?
So basically Nets/Lakers have to the trade dead line to get it done
great we get to hear more of this nonsense
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@ those emails
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I dont know why people act like Lopez got a terrible contract, its a 4 year deal for a player near the top at his posistion (in which the league is thin at) and in his prime, its a pretty good deal for him. Now the humpy contract on the other hand is sorta
but i guess you can look at in the aspect that its a good trade Chip considering its a 2 / 24 deal, so basically a 12 Millie expiring contract next year for a double double PF that runs the floor well, decent ttrade chip since the league favors that.Honestly Dwight to dallas doesnt make sense, Dirk is the face there, plus its gonna be what? Dirk + Dwight plus filler? is that really a champ team? He goes to atlanta Its him, Smith and lou Williams cause they are gonna have to move Horford, and not smith if thats the whole reason for him going there. So atlanta has d12 + Smith + Lou + Fillers.... is that a championship team? nope.
His best chance to get a Chip / Be the face is Nets, LA he has a very good shot at a chip but thats Kobes team and everyone knows that.
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Knicks/Nets is perfect. Wouldn't be surprised if Lakers/Clips follow.
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The Lopez deal is a contract that kills any hope for a bad team to rebuild. For a team like the Nets, where they have his rights and they already have some pieces in place, it's fine. But a team like Orlando tearing down and building around that? It's bad business and it's stupid to think you can build any sort of real contender around it. As a piece that you think might complete the puzzle, sure. Fine. I don't hate it. But as the center of a rebuilding project?I dont know why people act like Lopez got a terrible contract, its a 4 year deal for a player near the top at his posistion (in which the league is thin at) and in his prime, its a pretty good deal for him. Now the humpy contract on the other hand is sortabut i guess you can look at in the aspect that its a good trade Chip considering its a 2 / 24 deal, so basically a 12 Millie expiring contract next year for a double double PF that runs the floor well, decent ttrade chip since the league favors that.
Honestly Dwight to dallas doesnt make sense, Dirk is the face there, plus its gonna be what? Dirk + Dwight plus filler? is that really a champ team? He goes to atlanta Its him, Smith and lou Williams cause they are gonna have to move Horford, and not smith if thats the whole reason for him going there. So atlanta has d12 + Smith + Lou + Fillers.... is that a championship team? nope.
His best chance to get a Chip / Be the face is Nets, LA he has a very good shot at a chip but thats Kobes team and everyone knows that.
The Humphries contract is the same thing. It's fine for a team like the Nets. Would be fine for someone like the Lakers or Celtics or Heat. But for a team that isn't a playoff team and needs to rebuild? It's bad business.
Anything to the Nets at this point you've gotta think is dead. If Orlando wanted Brook they would've taken it already. He's just not going to be a Net. Same with the Lakers and Cavs deal. If they wanted to take back Drew or they wanted whatever crap Cleveland would give up without taking back Hedo/JRich, they would've done it.
Come next offseason Dwight has no leverage. Oh, you're gonna go sign with Brooklyn for the minimum? Do it. Dare ya. You're gonna go to LA for less than the max? Bet you won't. The Magic will have more leverage to trade him somewhere like Dallas or Atlanta where he'll get his money and they'll have a chance to dump a contract on a team desperate to acquire him. Does he immediately make either of those teams a title contender? No. But he's pissed away all his leverage and it looks like Orlando is going to basically tell him to **** himself with his demands. And that's a good thing.
They're better taking a monster trade exception and sitting on it for a year or two than taking back any kind of contract with Brook Lopez or Kris Humphries or Anderson Varejao...
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Fair enough, made some good points with your rebuttal. * insert seinfield black/white cookie gif*
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Cant wait for the schedule to come out. Knicks vs Nets... i will findmy way into the building as well.
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dont go racial, please...
anyways, the magic are being dumb, because if they keep howard until next season, he's gonna walk away and they will have nothing to show for.. no draft picks, no superstar players, nothing... if they think they'll get a better deal, they'll be in for a rude awakening.. leave it up to a rookie GM to screw over a franchise for years to come
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Rockets sign their rookies. Looks like they're out of this Dwightmare for 30 days, if not longer. Guess the Magic really are gonna keep him until the deadline.
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Good for the rockets.. **** the magic
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Glad Houston didn't cave and forfeit their draft (and then some) to rent Dwight Howard. Looks like the Magic are down to making a deal work with LA/CLE or persuading Dwight into staying long-term.
Good luck with that.
Good luck with that.
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Lets say they ship out Humph / Brook wouldnt that techinically bring them out down from Luxury Tax and allow them to take D12? or that rule is set once the season is over in terms of cap / tax / etc ? Loopholes ?
So basically Nets/Lakers have to the trade dead line to get it done
great we get to hear more of this nonsense
from what I understand it is once the new season starts. So if you're over luxury before the trade, you wouldn't be eligible.
This whole damn thing is nonsense.. And every day it is less Dwight, more Hennigan/Magic
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i still think 3 of those rookies are gonna be future all stars
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AK47 to the Timberwolves
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This was never on Dwight , his only problem was being too nice and signing the option.....he been wanted out of Orlando
i feel like Orlando approached him on some " bruh , you seen the decision , you don't want to be hated like that"
and told him to chill for a couple months that way Orlando get's something and he gets no backlash/extra year +26 mill
and gets one crack at beating the heatles with the magic . then orlando said lolwut we dont want brook lopez....
i feel like Orlando approached him on some " bruh , you seen the decision , you don't want to be hated like that"
and told him to chill for a couple months that way Orlando get's something and he gets no backlash/extra year +26 mill
and gets one crack at beating the heatles with the magic . then orlando said lolwut we dont want brook lopez....
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