Well I bought the SEALS the weekend they came out, so that was a little impatient on my part. And for the Steel Blues, I waited a good couple of weeks for those and paid 275 shipped. I personally still can't find Steel Blues cheaper than that right now, and I love that shoe so it was worth the money. I don't have any connection or anybody who can get me these kind of shoes for cheap or even a little over retail. And my internet isn't the best, so getting them on release date has been joke. So when I find out something is coming out that I really want, like those two and the Salmon Soles, I just save up and bite the bullet unfortunately. I don't like it, but I really don't have much of a choice.