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aight even i gotta say jeter's buggin.


but he cant seem to get over the fact that arod's getting what he's getting. yanks made a mistake giving arod that bigger contract.


just seems like jeter dont wanna deal with the fact that he is " mr yankee " and arod's gonna be making 10 mil more a year.
 
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Jeter. This would be the first dude talking about "loyalty" and what it means to be a "Yankee" and then reject a $15 million dollar a year salary.
 
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Jeter. This would be the first dude talking about "loyalty" and what it means to be a "Yankee" and then reject a $15 million dollar a year salary.
 
The issue with ARod is we gave him $25mil a year when he was still playing like a player in his prime (playoff choker or not).. And since he was only 32 we gave him 10 years.. Should have given him 6-8.. But he had the leverage he was actually going to leave.

Jeter is not and will not be in his prime again... So 6 years at age 36 is one disastrous thing... But $25 a mil per is another thing that is even worse...

I would be willing to give him 6 years if he goes down to $10-12 mil a year.

But for right now I'd give 3-4 for $15mil per.

If he doesn't even come off the years and price that !%@+#+!!*$%# can walk for all I care..
 
The issue with ARod is we gave him $25mil a year when he was still playing like a player in his prime (playoff choker or not).. And since he was only 32 we gave him 10 years.. Should have given him 6-8.. But he had the leverage he was actually going to leave.

Jeter is not and will not be in his prime again... So 6 years at age 36 is one disastrous thing... But $25 a mil per is another thing that is even worse...

I would be willing to give him 6 years if he goes down to $10-12 mil a year.

But for right now I'd give 3-4 for $15mil per.

If he doesn't even come off the years and price that !%@+#+!!*$%# can walk for all I care..
 
We paid A-Rod wayyyyy over the market value. Paying for that now on two fronts because for one they don't want to overpay like that again and two DJ wants that kind of money and doesn't want to feel slighted.
 
We paid A-Rod wayyyyy over the market value. Paying for that now on two fronts because for one they don't want to overpay like that again and two DJ wants that kind of money and doesn't want to feel slighted.
 
I understand hal is trying to bring a culture change to how the front office does business and im all for it.

but jeter was the wrong guy to make an example out of.
 
I understand hal is trying to bring a culture change to how the front office does business and im all for it.

but jeter was the wrong guy to make an example out of.
 
Keith Olbermann's baseball blog

http://keitholbermann.mlb...11/what_price_jeter.html

What Price Jeter?


Let's put aside for a second the premise that Derek Jeter believes he should be baseball's second-highest paid player after a season in which he batted .241 against right handed pitchers. Let's not address what it must look like in that higher plane of consciousness in which a team should pay a man $25 million a year through his 42nd birthday not because he is performing at that a supreme level of production, but out of loyalty and recognition of past greatness, and because he deserves to make nearly as much as Alex Rodriguez does.

Let's start with reality. If the Yankees actually have offered him three years at $15 million - is there any team prepared to outbid them? The first part of that question is obviously simpler: for how many teams would Jeter be an upgrade at shortstop - or even second base - and have any marquee value?

It's best to begin inside the division. The Red Sox are out; it would look pretty funny to see Jeter in a Boston uniform and Theo Epstein would delight in the gigantic nose-thumbing it would constitute. But the Sox believe themselves overstocked up the middle as it is with Dustin Pedroia, Jed Lowrie and Marco Scutaro, and are trying to unload Scutaro as it is (one can almost see them offering Scutaro to the Yankees as a Jeter replacement). Tampa Bay might think Jeter a better second base option than Sean Rodriguez, but they're seeking to trim payroll, not engorge it. Toronto is set with Escobar and Hill. On the other hand, the Orioles don't really have a shortstop despite Robert Andino's flashes of adequacy last September.

Could any of the other big market teams be interested? At first blush you could envision a scenario in which the Mets actually do unload Jose Reyes and grab Jeter (or grab him to play second). But don't be fooled if the first half of this shuffle takes place. Reyes would be moved to lighten the payroll and there are serious doubts about whether ownership will sign even the most economical of free agents this winter. The only real bidding war the Yankees might face for Jeter would be over before it got back to the dealer.

In Los Angeles, Erick Aybar and Maicer Izturis had weak seasons in 2010, but the Angels love them both. Owner Arte Moreno may be enough of a Yankee emulator at heart to have named his ballpark "Angel Stadium" (and not "Angels Stadium") but he's probably not enough of one to spend the money on Jeter when he could spend it on Adrian Beltre and/or Carl Crawford. Surely Jeter would be an improvement for the Dodgers at second base, but as at CitiField, ownership questions remain the deciding factor in the ever-deepening Chavez Ravine.

In Chicago, the numbers have yet to explain the Cubs' interest in Blake DeWitt but jettisoning him to pay Jeter to play second seems unlikely. As we move into the high-end middle markets, the Rockies have just cleared the way for Eric Young, Jr., at second. The Tigers would probably be happy to add Jeter to replace the Will Rhymes/Scott Sizemore uncertainty at second, but not at these prices. The Giants need a shortstop, but the field of free agents includes two incumbents from their own club in Edgar Renteria and Juan Uribe. The Reds are in a similar situation with Orlando Cabrera testing the waters. The Cardinals are inexplicably satisfied with their middle infield mish-mosh of Daniel Descalso, Tyler Greene, Brendan Ryan and Skip Schumaker but Jeter would be an upgrade on any of them.

So now we begin to move down market. The Astros like what Jeff Keppinger did for them last year and have just traded for Clint Barmes. Jeter would clearly be an improvement here. The same for Oakland and shortstop Cliff Pennington and second baseman Mark Ellis. The Padres likewise have unappealing options in Everth Cabrera and David Eckstein. The Indians are not sold on second baseman Jason Donald, but the Pirates probably would not think Jeter enough of an improvement to demote cheap shortstop Ronny Cedeno. And in Seattle, Jack Wilson can't hit but the Mariners rightly fell in love with his glove. Perhaps these non-spending teams could all get together and offer Jeter one large contract and share him at a rate of 27 games each.

The Jeter market, then, is Baltimore, San Francisco and maybe St. Louis.

That's the market at $15,000,001 a year.

The market at $25,000,000 is in Jeter's imagination. Or in the year 2000.
 
Keith Olbermann's baseball blog

http://keitholbermann.mlb...11/what_price_jeter.html

What Price Jeter?


Let's put aside for a second the premise that Derek Jeter believes he should be baseball's second-highest paid player after a season in which he batted .241 against right handed pitchers. Let's not address what it must look like in that higher plane of consciousness in which a team should pay a man $25 million a year through his 42nd birthday not because he is performing at that a supreme level of production, but out of loyalty and recognition of past greatness, and because he deserves to make nearly as much as Alex Rodriguez does.

Let's start with reality. If the Yankees actually have offered him three years at $15 million - is there any team prepared to outbid them? The first part of that question is obviously simpler: for how many teams would Jeter be an upgrade at shortstop - or even second base - and have any marquee value?

It's best to begin inside the division. The Red Sox are out; it would look pretty funny to see Jeter in a Boston uniform and Theo Epstein would delight in the gigantic nose-thumbing it would constitute. But the Sox believe themselves overstocked up the middle as it is with Dustin Pedroia, Jed Lowrie and Marco Scutaro, and are trying to unload Scutaro as it is (one can almost see them offering Scutaro to the Yankees as a Jeter replacement). Tampa Bay might think Jeter a better second base option than Sean Rodriguez, but they're seeking to trim payroll, not engorge it. Toronto is set with Escobar and Hill. On the other hand, the Orioles don't really have a shortstop despite Robert Andino's flashes of adequacy last September.

Could any of the other big market teams be interested? At first blush you could envision a scenario in which the Mets actually do unload Jose Reyes and grab Jeter (or grab him to play second). But don't be fooled if the first half of this shuffle takes place. Reyes would be moved to lighten the payroll and there are serious doubts about whether ownership will sign even the most economical of free agents this winter. The only real bidding war the Yankees might face for Jeter would be over before it got back to the dealer.

In Los Angeles, Erick Aybar and Maicer Izturis had weak seasons in 2010, but the Angels love them both. Owner Arte Moreno may be enough of a Yankee emulator at heart to have named his ballpark "Angel Stadium" (and not "Angels Stadium") but he's probably not enough of one to spend the money on Jeter when he could spend it on Adrian Beltre and/or Carl Crawford. Surely Jeter would be an improvement for the Dodgers at second base, but as at CitiField, ownership questions remain the deciding factor in the ever-deepening Chavez Ravine.

In Chicago, the numbers have yet to explain the Cubs' interest in Blake DeWitt but jettisoning him to pay Jeter to play second seems unlikely. As we move into the high-end middle markets, the Rockies have just cleared the way for Eric Young, Jr., at second. The Tigers would probably be happy to add Jeter to replace the Will Rhymes/Scott Sizemore uncertainty at second, but not at these prices. The Giants need a shortstop, but the field of free agents includes two incumbents from their own club in Edgar Renteria and Juan Uribe. The Reds are in a similar situation with Orlando Cabrera testing the waters. The Cardinals are inexplicably satisfied with their middle infield mish-mosh of Daniel Descalso, Tyler Greene, Brendan Ryan and Skip Schumaker but Jeter would be an upgrade on any of them.

So now we begin to move down market. The Astros like what Jeff Keppinger did for them last year and have just traded for Clint Barmes. Jeter would clearly be an improvement here. The same for Oakland and shortstop Cliff Pennington and second baseman Mark Ellis. The Padres likewise have unappealing options in Everth Cabrera and David Eckstein. The Indians are not sold on second baseman Jason Donald, but the Pirates probably would not think Jeter enough of an improvement to demote cheap shortstop Ronny Cedeno. And in Seattle, Jack Wilson can't hit but the Mariners rightly fell in love with his glove. Perhaps these non-spending teams could all get together and offer Jeter one large contract and share him at a rate of 27 games each.

The Jeter market, then, is Baltimore, San Francisco and maybe St. Louis.

That's the market at $15,000,001 a year.

The market at $25,000,000 is in Jeter's imagination. Or in the year 2000.
 
Originally Posted by rashi

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Jeter. This would be the first dude talking about "loyalty" and what it means to be a "Yankee" and then reject a $15 million dollar a year salary.

The mythology of sports 
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Originally Posted by rashi

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Jeter. This would be the first dude talking about "loyalty" and what it means to be a "Yankee" and then reject a $15 million dollar a year salary.

The mythology of sports 
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Originally Posted by BigUglyAmerican

I understand hal is trying to bring a culture change to how the front office does business and im all for it.

but jeter was the wrong guy to make an example out of.

You had to create a new SN to say this?
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Originally Posted by BigUglyAmerican

I understand hal is trying to bring a culture change to how the front office does business and im all for it.

but jeter was the wrong guy to make an example out of.

You had to create a new SN to say this?
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now the reports are that jeter never wanted 6 for 150

he wants atleast 4 at 23 to 24 million a year
 
now the reports are that jeter never wanted 6 for 150

he wants atleast 4 at 23 to 24 million a year
 
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