OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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Is this the appropriate place for cliches about football being too soft now when it used to be for real men and how the game has been ruined and it's now flag football, or no?
When people complain that football is too soft now, they should have to live 1 day with the side effects of former players and see if they are still spewing that nonsense.
 
 
Best Deep Passer: Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers

Deep passing stats are often skewed by the quality of the wide receiver, as downfield throws involve more tracking, hand fighting, and positioning than shorter throws. So looking at the stats is not always the best way to determine the best deep-ball thrower, but our grades take into consideration the timing and ball location of each throw, as well as crediting the quarterback for well-placed passes that are dropped. For that reason, Roethlisberger was the league’s best downfield thrower, as he consistently launched well-placed passes all season. He led the league with a +27.4 grade on passes thrown at least 20 yards in the air (0.0 is average).

Runner-up: Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

Best Intermediate Passer: Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

This is where Palmer dominated, grading at +45.1 at the intermediate level. Between the numbers, he was 58-for-79 for 998 yards, six touchdowns, and two interceptions, good for a passer rating of 130.1.

Runner-up:  Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Best Short Passer: Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Brady is always among the league’s best in the short game, and he topped the grades again in 2015. His accuracy percentage of 84.4 percent ranked fifth in the league, and his 22 touchdowns led the NFL.

Runner-up:  Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals

Best Under Pressure: Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

Palmer’s +14.6 grade under pressure led the league, and his passer rating of 92.2 ranked second.

Runner-up:  Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Most Elusive: Doug Martin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Martin rejuvenated his career by grading as our top runner while also leading with an elusive rating of 65.7. He forced a league-high 57 missed tackles and picked up 3.1 yards after contact per rush.

Runner-up:  Mark Ingram, New Orleans Saints

Best Hands: Jason Witten, Dallas Cowboys 

With all due respect to Jeremy Maclin of the Kansas City Chiefs (two drops in the last two seasons on 184 catchable passes), Witten didn’t drop any of his 77 catchable passes, so he gets the nod. Credit Maclin, however, who turned his once perceived average hands into the league’s best among wide receivers.

Runner-up:  Jeremy Maclin, Kansas City Chiefs

Best Deep Threat: Allen Robinson, Jacksonville Jaguars

No wide receiver helped his quarterback as much as Robinson, who led the league with 672 yards on deep passes, a PFF record dating back to 2007. Whether running away from defenders or leaping over them to extend a drive, Robinson made big plays happen all season long for the Jaguars.

Runner-up:  Sammy Watkins, Buffalo Bills

Best Slot Receiver: Doug Baldwin, Seattle Seahawks

Baldwin ran away with all of the slot awards this year, leading in yards (1,007), touchdowns (12), and yards per route run (2.46). He also caught a league-high 83.1 percent of his slot targets.

Runner-up:  Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

Most Disciplined: Andrew Norwell, Carolina Panthers

Norwell played 834 snaps without committing a penalty, the only guard to play at least 500 snaps and avoid any flags.

Runner-up:  Rob Havenstein, St. Louis Rams

Iron Man: James Laurinaitis, St. Louis Rams

With 1,183 snaps, Laurinaitis saw more action than any linebacker in the league, and for the seventh straight year of his career, he played more than 99.0 percent of team’s snaps.

Runner-up:  J.J. Watt, Houston Texans

Best Tackler: Corey Graham, Buffalo Bills

Graham had only three missed tackles on 104 attempts, one every 35.7 attempts. It was the best rate among linebackers and safeties.

Runner-up:  K.J. Wright, Seattle Seahawks

Ball Hawk: Delvin Breaux, New Orleans Saints

Breaux had 15 passes defended and three interceptions, getting his hand on 22.0 percent of his 82 targets to lead the league.

Runner-up:  Johnathan Joseph, Houston Texans

Best Blitzer: Dont’a Hightower, New England Patriots

Hightower led all linebackers with a 94.0 pass rush rating, picking up four sacks, two hits, and 18 hurries on 116 rushes. Even though some of that came as a pure edge rusher, few linebackers attack the “A” gap like Hightower.

Runner-up:  Anthony Barr, Minnesota Vikings

Best run-stopping safety: Reshad Jones, Miami Dolphins

Jones set a PFF record with 38 run stops, and he finished with the top grade against run among safeties.

Runner-up:  Harrison Smith, Minnesota Vikings
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/19/pro-pff-superlative-awards/
wheres MVP Cam at ........

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When people complain that football is too soft now, they should have to live 1 day with the side effects of former players and see if they are still spewing that nonsense.

No one said the game isn't physical or the players aren't tough. That doesn't change the fact the game is softer then it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. Anyone who believes the game is as brutal now as it was then is lier.
 
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[quote name="SoleByThePound"][QUOTE name="100027"]Is this the appropriate place for cliches about football being too soft now when it used to be for real men and how the game has been ruined and it's now flag football, or no?[/QUOTE]When people complain that football is too soft now, they should have to live 1 day with the side effects of former players and see if they are still spewing that nonsense.[/quote]"Garble, garble, there are no studies supporting blah, blah, blah inconclusive data. Fairy something, something, man's game."

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wonder what Pederson is gonna do with the QB situation.
please dear lord baby jesus let Bradford walk some place else.. hopefully the eagles land a QB early this year to build around

and we'll happily take the compensatory for losing bradford 
 
"Garble, garble, there are no studies supporting blah, blah, blah inconclusive data. Fairy something, something, man's game."

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"They knew what they were getting into"

One of my favorites because it's so untrue but said with such confidence.
 
Yo I'm watching the Namath doc on HBO...the man was a straight goon. :lol
Namath was the original @TimidTebow.

Delvin Breaux is far and away my breakout player this year. He was everything Brandon Browner was not this season. Great story though: Fractured 3 vertebrae in HS. Undrafted out of LSU because he was never cleared to play, although his scholly was honored. Played everywhere: GDFL, AFL, CFL. CFL All-Star in '14. According to PFF, led by 3 percentage points in highest amount of targets defended or intercepted.
 
"They knew what they were getting into"


One of my favorites because it's so untrue but said with such confidence.

Untrue how? What person doesn't realize having your head bashed repeatedly can have health effects. I knew this as a child. Your basically saying these men who have attended college in some form don't have common sense.

money > health

That's the choice they made.
 
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Untrue how? What person doesn't realize having your head bashed repeatedly can have health effects. I knew this as a child. Your basically saying these men who have attended college in some form don't have common sense.
Common sense?  Scientific community hadn't published/discovered the full extent of these head injuries until about 10 years ago AND the NFL was working full time to deny it.  It's only the past 3 years the media has even taken it on as an issue.

Most people still don't know that no helmet comes close to minimizing the impact of head injuries, and that high schoolers who played on the line show permanent effects of brain damage.

Certainly when Randle El was a kid these things were not shared in the public domain.
 
^ It's becoming more widespread now with all the press/movies/etc about head injuries and such, so perhaps for this next generation it'll be different.

I understand football is a physical game and injuries happen, but what bothers me is the unnecessary stuff, like getting in an extra hit late to send a message when it has no bearing on the play. At the end of the day, each player should hope that every other player on both teams is able to go home that night without a serious injury. That's just being a decent human.
 
 
"They knew what they were getting into"


One of my favorites because it's so untrue but said with such confidence.
Untrue how? What person doesn't realize having your head bashed repeatedly can have health effects. I knew this as a child. Your basically saying these men who have attended college in some form don't have common sense.

money > health

That's the choice they made.
this.

I played baseball instead of Football from a young age up until college because i knew the risks of injury were greater in football than baseball not that i wasnt good enough.

i guess thats why i really dont feel remorse for these guys because youd have to be an idiot to decide to make a living out football without understanding the risks.
 
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If guys like Pacman Jones think Antonio Brown faked his concussion, u would understand why some football players don't think of the risks until when they are retired/near retirement
 
 
this.

I played baseball instead of Football from a young age up until college because i knew the risks of injury were greater in football than baseball not that i wasnt good enough.

i guess thats why i really dont feel remorse for these guys because youd have to be an idiot to decide to make a living out football without understanding the risks.
You knew there were greater injury risks.  You didn't know the extent of the risks and you didn't know that permanent brain damage was almost guaranteed and could leave you with dementia at 40.  When you're weighing the pros and cons of a career (and you don't have a lot of other options) the details matter. 
 
Common sense?  Scientific community hadn't published/discovered the full extent of these head injuries until about 10 years ago AND the NFL was working full time to deny it.  It's only the past 3 years the media has even taken it on as an issue.

Most people still don't know that no helmet comes close to minimizing the impact of head injuries, and that high schoolers who played on the line show permanent effects of brain damage.

Certainly when Randle El was a kid these things were not shared in the public domain.

Yes common sense. We've seen the results of head trauma for years. From boxers to anyone in all walks of life who have had these issues. I didn't need a league to tell me getting hit in the head repeatedly can cause health risk. These men lacked common sense if they thought they were risk free. It's that simple.
 
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