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Chads contract is nice, he is going to get his money regardless. i want him to get traded but i hope he doesnt sit out though.
Official NFL Offseason Thread
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NFL May Change Tune With Radio for Defense
By Mark Maske
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 9, 2008; Page E01
The NFL's reaction to the spying scandal involving the New England Patriots will include a renewed push this offseason to persuade owners to approve a proposal that would allow one defensive player per team to be connected to a coach on the sideline during games via a wireless communication device, officials said.
The rule would put offenses and defenses on an even footing because each quarterback already is outfitted with a helmet receiver connecting him to a coach during games. It would eliminate the need for coaches to signal in defensive plays from the sideline and, thus, eliminate the possibility of those signals being stolen by an opponent.
The proposal would have to be approved by 24 of the 32 owners to be enacted next season, and likely will be recommended by the NFL's competition committee and put to a vote at the annual league meeting that begins March 30 in Palm Beach, Fla.
"It's safe to say you will see some sort of proposal, yes," said Atlanta Falcons President Rich McKay, the co-chairman of the competition committee.
The proposal fell two votes shy of being ratified by the owners last March, and McKay said he's optimistic that it will be approved this time.
"I hope so," McKay said by telephone from Atlanta. "I would hope we would get it without just that [the spying scandal] being the impetus. We tried in the past to get it passed, and we got close. We were two or three votes away the last couple years. I hope now it gets passed."
The owner of one NFL team said this week he expects the proposal to be supported by the league office and passed by the owners in the aftermath of the Spygate scandal, in which the Patriots were punished for illegally videotaping the play signals of New York Jets coaches in the opening game of the just-completed season.
"That should push this [approval of the proposal] over the top," said the owner, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the controversial nature of the topic and the recent congressional interest in it. "If there are no defensive signals, there's nothing to steal and nothing to videotape. I'm sure the league will want this and that should get it done."
Under the proposal, one defensive player would have a radio receiver in his helmet to hear a coach's play calls. One objection raised by some teams to the proposal in the past is that the rule might be difficult for game officials to administer.
Unlike the quarterback, who generally plays the entire game, most defensive players leave the field regularly as part of a team's substitution pattern. The question has been whether more than one defensive player should have a helmet with a radio. If only one player's helmet has one, opponents to the proposal have wondered, what happens when he's not in the game? And if more than one defensive player's helmet has a radio, will officials be expected to monitor that only one of those players is in the game at a time?
The proposal received 22 approval votes last spring, two short of being ratified. The year before that, it received 18 votes.
"This last time, I think some of the offensive coaches didn't think it was necessary," McKay said. "They did not feel the playing field needed to be leveled. The time before that, I think it had to do with people wanting to see how it would be administered and having concerns about whether it would work with only one defensive player being designated."
McKay said the members of the competition committee might tweak the proposal to address teams' concerns before it's presented to the owners in Palm Beach.
"We'll have to see if the proposal changes at all," McKay said. "We have to study it and talk about it first. We'll look at the surveys we get every year from the teams."
In September, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell fined the Patriots $250,000 and their coach, Bill Belichick, $500,000. Goodell also stripped a first-round draft pick in the spring from the team. The Spygate scandal received renewed attention last week when Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) criticized the league's investigation and questioned Goodell's decision to have the six videotapes that were turned over to the league by the Patriots destroyed. Plans are being made for Goodell to meet with Specter next week.
League officials also are arranging to interview former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh after the Boston Herald reported last weekend that the Patriots videotaped a St. Louis Rams walk-through before the teams met in the Super Bowl at the conclusion of the 2001 season. The Patriots have denied the allegation and Goodell has said there's no evidence to support it.
Whatever the Patriots did or didn't do in the past, part of the league's aim is to make it more difficult to gain an improper competitive edge in the future. But McKay said the competition committee wanted to see this proposal ratified long before spying became such an issue.
"Our feeling was, it wasn't so much concern over signs being stolen," McKay said. "It was not so much driven by that. It was just making things go smoother. It was kind of silly for people to be holding up signs and things like that. In some people's minds, it might be about sign-stealing. But in our minds, it's not. It's not driven by all of this that has happened. We've been going down this path a long time before all of this happened."
By Mark Maske
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 9, 2008; Page E01
The NFL's reaction to the spying scandal involving the New England Patriots will include a renewed push this offseason to persuade owners to approve a proposal that would allow one defensive player per team to be connected to a coach on the sideline during games via a wireless communication device, officials said.
The rule would put offenses and defenses on an even footing because each quarterback already is outfitted with a helmet receiver connecting him to a coach during games. It would eliminate the need for coaches to signal in defensive plays from the sideline and, thus, eliminate the possibility of those signals being stolen by an opponent.
The proposal would have to be approved by 24 of the 32 owners to be enacted next season, and likely will be recommended by the NFL's competition committee and put to a vote at the annual league meeting that begins March 30 in Palm Beach, Fla.
"It's safe to say you will see some sort of proposal, yes," said Atlanta Falcons President Rich McKay, the co-chairman of the competition committee.
The proposal fell two votes shy of being ratified by the owners last March, and McKay said he's optimistic that it will be approved this time.
"I hope so," McKay said by telephone from Atlanta. "I would hope we would get it without just that [the spying scandal] being the impetus. We tried in the past to get it passed, and we got close. We were two or three votes away the last couple years. I hope now it gets passed."
The owner of one NFL team said this week he expects the proposal to be supported by the league office and passed by the owners in the aftermath of the Spygate scandal, in which the Patriots were punished for illegally videotaping the play signals of New York Jets coaches in the opening game of the just-completed season.
"That should push this [approval of the proposal] over the top," said the owner, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the controversial nature of the topic and the recent congressional interest in it. "If there are no defensive signals, there's nothing to steal and nothing to videotape. I'm sure the league will want this and that should get it done."
Under the proposal, one defensive player would have a radio receiver in his helmet to hear a coach's play calls. One objection raised by some teams to the proposal in the past is that the rule might be difficult for game officials to administer.
Unlike the quarterback, who generally plays the entire game, most defensive players leave the field regularly as part of a team's substitution pattern. The question has been whether more than one defensive player should have a helmet with a radio. If only one player's helmet has one, opponents to the proposal have wondered, what happens when he's not in the game? And if more than one defensive player's helmet has a radio, will officials be expected to monitor that only one of those players is in the game at a time?
The proposal received 22 approval votes last spring, two short of being ratified. The year before that, it received 18 votes.
"This last time, I think some of the offensive coaches didn't think it was necessary," McKay said. "They did not feel the playing field needed to be leveled. The time before that, I think it had to do with people wanting to see how it would be administered and having concerns about whether it would work with only one defensive player being designated."
McKay said the members of the competition committee might tweak the proposal to address teams' concerns before it's presented to the owners in Palm Beach.
"We'll have to see if the proposal changes at all," McKay said. "We have to study it and talk about it first. We'll look at the surveys we get every year from the teams."
In September, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell fined the Patriots $250,000 and their coach, Bill Belichick, $500,000. Goodell also stripped a first-round draft pick in the spring from the team. The Spygate scandal received renewed attention last week when Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) criticized the league's investigation and questioned Goodell's decision to have the six videotapes that were turned over to the league by the Patriots destroyed. Plans are being made for Goodell to meet with Specter next week.
League officials also are arranging to interview former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh after the Boston Herald reported last weekend that the Patriots videotaped a St. Louis Rams walk-through before the teams met in the Super Bowl at the conclusion of the 2001 season. The Patriots have denied the allegation and Goodell has said there's no evidence to support it.
Whatever the Patriots did or didn't do in the past, part of the league's aim is to make it more difficult to gain an improper competitive edge in the future. But McKay said the competition committee wanted to see this proposal ratified long before spying became such an issue.
"Our feeling was, it wasn't so much concern over signs being stolen," McKay said. "It was not so much driven by that. It was just making things go smoother. It was kind of silly for people to be holding up signs and things like that. In some people's minds, it might be about sign-stealing. But in our minds, it's not. It's not driven by all of this that has happened. We've been going down this path a long time before all of this happened."
- Jun 24, 2001
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are the niners looking to spend anymore money this offseason?
- Nov 17, 2004
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Oh yeah, still have a little over $30 mil to spend this offseason. Have to resign Marques Douglas, but other than that, should be straight.
Big names they're going to target (from what I've heard) are Jared Allen, Lance Briggs and Bernard Berrian.
- Jul 23, 2007
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Bernard Berrian.
If I was a 9er fan I'd be
so picking up bum #** Darrel Jackson wasnt enough, they wanna go after another 2nd rate WR.
Better off just drafting a WR than signing Berrian.
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^ Trust me Gunna, u think I want any part of James Hardy, Darrell Jackson or Bernard Berrian? Good lord
The worst part is, this years free agent WR class is so thin, I can almost guarantee the 49ers will pick Berrians lame-duck self up.
Berrian
Bryant Johnson
Andre Davis
Jerry Porter
Devery Fumble Fingers Henderson
Keary Colbert
Ernest Wilford
... the list goes on and on.
Make a move for Ocho-Cinco, Larry Fitz or somethin. Mike Martz is gonna lose his mind, and Gore is gonna be TIRED by the end of next season.
The worst part is, this years free agent WR class is so thin, I can almost guarantee the 49ers will pick Berrians lame-duck self up.
Berrian
Bryant Johnson
Andre Davis
Jerry Porter
Devery Fumble Fingers Henderson
Keary Colbert
Ernest Wilford
... the list goes on and on.
Make a move for Ocho-Cinco, Larry Fitz or somethin. Mike Martz is gonna lose his mind, and Gore is gonna be TIRED by the end of next season.
im like pele
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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
^U just choose to interpret it that way. he didnt pull a Sprewell, he said he wants to be made happy. If you feel you are the best at what you do, dont u think u should be paid as tho u are? and that relates to any job, industry or sport.
wat a piimp...
im like pele
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Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy
^ Trust me Gunna, u think I want any part of James Hardy, Darrell Jackson or Bernard Berrian? Good lord
The worst part is, this years free agent WR class is so thin, I can almost guarantee the 49ers will pick Berrians lame-duck self up.
Berrian
Bryant Johnson
Andre Davis
Jerry Porter
Devery Fumble Fingers Henderson
Keary Colbert
Ernest Wilford
... the list goes on and on.
Make a move for Ocho-Cinco, Larry Fitz or somethin. Mike Martz is gonna lose his mind, and Gore is gonna be TIRED by the end of next season.
you guys can always make a move for "Marques Colston"
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IF the Niners were smart they would try and get some of the Martz plaers that are still withthe lions. S. McDonald, M. Furrey or even T. Walters. I would givethe niners McDonald for a 5th rounder. He wes the go to guy last year in our offense and seems to be the perfect fit.
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double post
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Please my bills draft all defensive line and Lbs please
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Ex-Seattle QB Zorn hired as head coach for ********
Associated Press
Updated: February 9, 2008, 10:58 PM ET
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Jim Zorn Hired as ******** Head Coach
WASHINGTON -- The Washington ******** hired Jim Zorn as their coach Saturday night, a surprise ending to a month-long search for a replacement for Joe Gibbs.
The former Seattle Seahawks quarterback was promoted to head coach Saturday night two weeks after being hired as the offensive coordinator, bringing an end to a secretive process that tried fans' patience and produced a new coaching favorite every week.
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Zorn's new contract is for five years and approximately $15 million. Zorn will be introduced at a news conference at noon Sunday.
"I've always dreamed of being a head coach with a franchise rich in tradition like the ********," Zorn said in a statement released by the team. "As a player who had to fight ******** teams at RFK as well as at our home field, I know about the history of this franchise as well as the passion of its fans. I won't let you down."
Zorn was the Seahawks' quarterbacks coach for the last seven years, helping develop Matt Hasselbeck into a Pro Bowl player, but he had never been a coordinator for an NFL team until the ******** came calling. Now he's making the jump to head coach.
"We're proud that our search was diligent, thorough, and resulted in today's announcement," owner Dan Snyder said. "Jim's track record and reputation as a player, great teacher, and as a coach makes us confident that they will translate to success for the ********."
Hashmarks: Tough Transition
Jim Zorn was known in Seattle as a hands-on, effective offensive coordinator who gets along well with his players. But is he ready to take on the responsibility of a head coach? Mike Sando
Zorn becomes the sixth coach under Snyder, who bought the team in 1999, and he ends a string of high-profile coaching hires by an owner who had developed a reputation for hiring top names at a top price. Snyder's last three coaches were Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier and Gibbs. None had a cumulative winning record, although Gibbs took the ******** to the playoffs in two of his four seasons before his resignation Jan. 8.
Zorn's hiring came after Snyder held marathon sessions with a variety of candidates. Two prominent names, Jim Mora and Steve Spagnuolo, withdrew from consideration to remain with their own teams. Jim Fassel had multiple interviews, but fans were seething when word got out that the former New York Giants coach was a possible finalist.
Others who didn't fit the bill for a variety of reasons included Steve Mariucci, Ron Meeks, Pete Carroll and Jim Schwartz. ******** assistant Gregg Williams had the support of many players, but he had been unsuccessful in his previous stint as a head coach in Buffalo and was fired after meeting four times with Snyder about the job.
Meanwhile, during several of the interviews, candidates mentioned Zorn as a favorable possibility as an offensive coordinator to replace Al Saunders, whose offense had been a disappointment for the last two years.
In the statement released by the team, Snyder -- who has been widely criticized during the coaching search -- went into detail to explain how Zorn ended up with the top job.
"We knew of Jim's stellar offensive reputation, so we hired him as coordinator, but we also suspected he would be a strong candidate for head coach," Snyder said. "After our first six-hour interview with him, I told Joe [Gibbs], 'This guy would make a terrific head coach.' But we stayed true to our commitment to interview every candidate."
Cutting Their Teeth In D.C.
After a month-long search to replace coach Joe Gibbs, the ******** hired Seattle quarterbacks' coach Jim Zorn. Zorn is also the fifth Washington coach since 1970 to lead the ******** with no prior NFL head coaching experience.
******** Hiring Head Coaches With No Prior Head Coach Experience, Since 1970 Coach (1st season) W-L record in 1st season Number of winning seasons
Jim Zorn (200? ?
Steve Spurrier (2002) 7-9 0
Norv Turner (1994) 3-13 3
Richie Petitbon (1993) 4-12 0
Joe Gibbs (1981) 8-8 13
The ******** had to wait until the Super Bowl was played to interview their final candidate, Giants defensive coordinator Spagnuolo. After Spagnuolo announced Thursday that he'd rather stay with the Giants -- who gave him a new three-year, $6 million contract -- Snyder said he invited Zorn to lunch.
"I told him we were considering him as the next head coach, and asked if he wanted to move forward. Without hesitation he said 'absolutely,' and that's all I needed to hear," Snyder said. "We spent two days taking Jim through the same interview process as every other candidate. Those sessions only confirmed my earlier comment to Joe: Jim Zorn will be a terrific head coach."
In his new role, Zorn will have plenty of guidance. Snyder kept most of Gibbs' staff intact, including veteran assistants Joe Bugel and Greg Blache. Blache was promoted to take charge of the defense after Williams was fired.
"Those guys have been around," Gibbs said from the garage area at Daytona International Speedway, where his team was preparing to compete in Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout exhibition race. "So what they did is continuity-wise, they kept the coaching staff and the support group and the training group and everybody, so he's in a real solid [situation]."
Zorn takes over a team that went 9-7, snatching the NFC's final wild card berth on the last weekend of the regular season, before losing to Seattle in the first round of the playoffs. The team is also well above the salary cap, although it has already started to address that problem by opening contract renegotiations with some of its highest-paid players.
The offense will undergo an overhaul under Zorn, who is expected to install a version of the West Coast attack. He will also have to sell himself to players who have expressed disappointment that the job didn't go to Williams, who has been hired as defensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Zorn is a longtime local favorite in Seattle. He was the franchise's original starting quarterback in 1976, played nine seasons with the team and is in the Seahawks' Ring of Honor. He returned as an offensive assistant from 1997-98 and again as quarterbacks coach in 2001.
He also coached in college for nine years as a quarterbacks coach or offensive coordinator at Boise State, Utah State and Minnesota. In between his coaching stints in Seattle, he spent two years coaching quarterbacks with the Detroit Lions.
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
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[h2]Dolphins Release Nine Players[/h2]February 11, 2008
The Miami Dolphins today terminated the contracts of wide receiver Marty Booker, quarterback Trent Green, tackle L.J. Shelton and defensive tackle KeithTraylor, the team announced. In addition, the team waived tackle Anthony Alabi, defensive tackle Anthony Bryant, tackle Marion Dukes, defensive tackle MarquayLove and tackle Joe Toledo.
"This is never easy, especially since all of these players worked hard during their tenure here," Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland said."In particular, in the case of each of the veterans, it's especially difficult to release players who have been productive and valued members of theorganization. However, we feel these decisions are in the best interest of the team.
"I want to thank all of them for their contributions to the Dolphins and wish them good luck."
The Miami Dolphins today terminated the contracts of wide receiver Marty Booker, quarterback Trent Green, tackle L.J. Shelton and defensive tackle KeithTraylor, the team announced. In addition, the team waived tackle Anthony Alabi, defensive tackle Anthony Bryant, tackle Marion Dukes, defensive tackle MarquayLove and tackle Joe Toledo.
"This is never easy, especially since all of these players worked hard during their tenure here," Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland said."In particular, in the case of each of the veterans, it's especially difficult to release players who have been productive and valued members of theorganization. However, we feel these decisions are in the best interest of the team.
"I want to thank all of them for their contributions to the Dolphins and wish them good luck."
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not really a surprise that Trent Green was getting the boot. over pay for a mediocre QB and thats what you got. mark my words, they will start saying Dolphinsafe Tuna in the next few months with all the restructuring going on. No one is safe except for the horrible choice of T. Ginn as their 1st rounder and thelast draft class.
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[h1]Panthers release injury-prone linebacker Morgan, guard Wahle[/h1]
Associated Press
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Carolina Panthers released injury-prone linebacker Dan Morgan and guard Mike Wahle on Monday in the first of many expected changes during the offseason.
Morgan was Carolina's first-round pick in 2001, but played in only 59 of 112 games with the Panthers because of numerous injuries, including at least five concussions. He missed the final 13 games last season with a partially torn right Achilles' tendon.
Wahle started all 16 games last season at left guard. He turns 30 next month and the Panthers clear salary cap space with his release.
Dan Morgan never fulfilled to be a top LB in the NFL due to several injuries Dude should call it quits.
Associated Press
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Carolina Panthers released injury-prone linebacker Dan Morgan and guard Mike Wahle on Monday in the first of many expected changes during the offseason.
Morgan was Carolina's first-round pick in 2001, but played in only 59 of 112 games with the Panthers because of numerous injuries, including at least five concussions. He missed the final 13 games last season with a partially torn right Achilles' tendon.
Wahle started all 16 games last season at left guard. He turns 30 next month and the Panthers clear salary cap space with his release.
Dan Morgan never fulfilled to be a top LB in the NFL due to several injuries Dude should call it quits.
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I miss Wahle.
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Look at how foul the NFL is.
This Dude Dan Morgan came back all those times from Concussions to help out the wack %+@ panthers out of LB their dire needs and these cats cut him soon as hehas one healthy season so he cant file an injury grievance.
This Dude Dan Morgan came back all those times from Concussions to help out the wack %+@ panthers out of LB their dire needs and these cats cut him soon as hehas one healthy season so he cant file an injury grievance.
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Don't even get me started on the NFL and how they treat injured/retired players... billion dollar industry that keeps getting bigger and bigger,and these dudes from the 50's-now who wern't gettin paid like these modern day athletes can't even walk, got bad backs, concussions, it's sad.Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT
Look at how foul the NFL is.
This Dude Dan Morgan came back all those times from Concussions to help out the wack %+@ panthers out of LB their dire needs and these cats cut him soon as he has one healthy season so he cant file an injury grievance.
It ain't like Morgan was out there doin crazy %%%# in his free time, dude got 5 concussions playin hard during the games. If he did some stupid shh on theweekend and got jackd up, that's one thing.
Im gonna stop.
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Berrian is hot garbage trust. Now hes a good number 2 but dude dont have the ability to become a number 1.
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Originally Posted by IM LIKE PELE
Originally Posted by Chester McFloppy
^ Trust me Gunna, u think I want any part of James Hardy, Darrell Jackson or Bernard Berrian? Good lord
The worst part is, this years free agent WR class is so thin, I can almost guarantee the 49ers will pick Berrians lame-duck self up.
Berrian
Bryant Johnson
Andre Davis
Jerry Porter
Devery Fumble Fingers Henderson
Keary Colbert
Ernest Wilford
... the list goes on and on.
Make a move for Ocho-Cinco, Larry Fitz or somethin. Mike Martz is gonna lose his mind, and Gore is gonna be TIRED by the end of next season.
you guys can always make a move for "Marques Colston"
Jerry Porter = money if you get him out of oakland
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I'm not the biggest Berrian fan like the rest of you but unless the 49ers are working on a deal to bring one of the rumored disgruntled receivers then heis pretty much the only way to improve the offense, and is a great fit for the Mike Martz style. If the 49ers don't get Berrian, they will be stuck with 2slower WR's in Darrel Jackson and Arnaz Battle who can't get vertical and don't really fit with what Martz likes to do on offense. I'm hopingthe Patriots can't retain Stallworth and he becomes available and the 49ers sign both him and Berrian. A WR corps of Stallworth, Berrian, and Ashley Leliecan be very effective in a Mike Martz offense and throw in Vernon Davis at TE and this passing game will be respectable again.
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What about Roy Williams from the Lions on the 49ers?
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HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
key points:
-Trying to bring in Chad Johnson
-Want to add Lance Briggs
-F the Salary cap
-Rock Cartwright won't be back
-Trent Dilfer might be our #3 QB....
-Brunell is gone
-Laron Landry (in their words) is on the verge of stardom
-Ladell Betts is the backup....but will be the #1 kick returner next year....
key points:
-Trying to bring in Chad Johnson
-Want to add Lance Briggs
-F the Salary cap
-Rock Cartwright won't be back
-Trent Dilfer might be our #3 QB....
-Brunell is gone
-Laron Landry (in their words) is on the verge of stardom
-Ladell Betts is the backup....but will be the #1 kick returner next year....
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Damn Dan Morgan....Dude was a monster @ Da U....
