***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rexanglorum]

I feel similarly.

I wish instead of "student loan forgiveness" we created and improved "loan repayment programs" that would include things like interest-free loans, grants to pay off loans, expanded tax benefits for loans, etc. and also something to address future increases in tuition and to expand need-blind admissions and need-based aid.

A one-time forgiveness plan only addresses part of the problem.

That said, there are others who are more invested in this issue and more knowledgeable, so ultimately I'll trust them to come up with the optimal solution. But it should be based on what'll benefit people the most, correct for economic (and other) inequities, and open up opportunities and not what gets the most reflexive likes on twitter.

The biggest thing to keep in mind is that Biden can do this through EO so he can’t blame Republicans for not getting it done and in this context, any talk about other policy items like more preschool or free community college are red herrings since he cannot do those things through EO. It’s basically a situation where if this is how timid Biden will be with no political obstacles, how weak will he be in an actual negotiation?

 

[RustyShackleford]

You consider anyone who pushes back to be fragile. By that metric, Liz Warren isn’t fragile, since she passed on your fantasy of telling off Bernie Voters. It’s also telling about that your political fantasy is t that she won and made people’s lives better, what you wanted to happen was her putting Bernie supporters in their place, as you imagine it.

Dude, you were clearly throwing a jab.

I threw one back, but because I brought up the ridiculous tantrum you treated the thread to last Spring, you want to complain. You want to make it an issue.

You keep divorcing yourself more and more from reality to make your grievances seem fair when in reality they are not. It seems you feel entitled to never get pushback on anything you say.

And, what the **** are you talking about. Yeah dude, I only support Warren to stick it to some petulant Bernie supporters. I didn't care about her winning. I gave her campaign donations just to lose so this elaborate plan could be set in motion. And I gave Sanders's money, and begged people to vote for him as some elaborate 4643475784D interdimensional chest move too. God damn Rex...

Miss me with this nonsense

 

[rexanglorum]

The fact that the student loan interest deduction is capped at 2,500 a year is laughable

I didn't know that detail. What a slap in the face. Student loans are basically a mortgage without a house and apparently without the tax deduction.

 

[whywesteppin]

The biggest thing to keep in mind is that Biden can do this through EO so he can’t blame Republicans for not getting it done and in this context, any talk about other policy items like more preschool or free community college are red herrings since he cannot do those things through EO. It’s basically a situation where if this is how timid Biden will be with no political obstacles, how weak will he be in an actual negotiation?

Good point. As much as I'm talking about what should be done in an ideal world, the fact is that Biden needs to consider the political reality that 43 senators are obstructionist anti-democracy MAGAs and he needs to work within those confines to accomplish what he can.

 

[rexanglorum]

well RustyShackleford I don’t think we’ll ever agree on exactly what the 2020 primary meant nor will we agree exactly on who has standing to complain online but you’re right that you do care about lifting marginalized people up and that’s what matters the most. Plus your gif and economic analysis game are top notch.

 

[Master Zik]

Rush Limbaugh finally dead. So what are the conspiracies out there about it?

Deep state killed him? He's not really dead but went underground to save abducted children from a pizza shop's basement? Not dead and gone to secretly work on Trump's next campaign run?

 

[rexanglorum]

Good point. As much as I'm talking about what should be done in an ideal world, the fact is that Biden needs to consider the political reality that 43 senators are obstructionist anti-democracy MAGAs and he needs to work within those confines to accomplish what he can.

Also, I feel like Biden and congressional Democrats’ hand will be strengthened when it comes time to negotiate other things. Like, the 50k is done, it’s off the table and Republicans or Republicans lite like Joe Manchin can’t pit student debt relief against other progressive education policy items.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Rush Limbaugh finally dead. So what are the conspiracies out there about it?

Deep state killed him? He's not really dead but went underground to save abducted children from a pizza shop's basement? Not dead and gone to secretly work on Trump's next campaign run?

Ain't no conspiracies needed, there is a simple explanation for Rush's vile *** finally dying...

Spoiler

 

[cedric ceballos]

I got a good laugh from this. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021...gh-celebrate-passing-with-restinpiss-hashtag/

But in all honesty. If you were a vile ****** person throughout your life. Said nothing but despicable insensitive things for decades with no regard or care to how messed up said things were. When you finally kick the bucket you deserve to be vilified and ripped apart. You didn’t have any redeeming qualities.

It’s not, “Well we know he was a horrible racist sexist person, but he passed away so let’s try to find something nice to say about him and pretend his decades of damage never happened or let’s downplay it since he just died”. Na **** that. Let him rot in hell and I wouldn’t blame any of his family if they did disassociate themselves from him when he was alive.

 

[blastercombo]

I hope his cancer didn’t take its time. I hope it moved quickly like it was in a .......... Rush

 

[blastercombo]

What does a sheep dying of cancer say?

Spoiler: Answer

Lim....... Bahhhhhh

 

[IATT]

 

[Nike Jordan]

Once again, the "**** Your Feelings" crowd, all of a sudden, gives a **** about feelings now.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

 

[mplsdunk]

but it actually is 3rd world with hemis and Amazon.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[Nike Jordan]

but it actually is 3rd world with hemis and Amazon.

And smartphones.

 

[mplsdunk]

And smartphones.

Apple is gonna start treating us like the broke bois we are and retro the iPhone 4.

 

[IATT]

 

[whywesteppin]

I mean, just look at this HANDSOME DEVIL.

ok, maybe he's not handsome.

 

[dragicon]

That doesn’t look like him to me.

 

[elpablo21]

That doesn’t look like him to me.

First pic did, then 2nd pic was ehh

But then someone posted Trump's best friend behind him

That's def Grayson Allen

 

[whywesteppin]

I got no defense.

 

[Nike Jordan]