***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

And if you rephrase "Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time" to "Pete Maravich is the greatest basketball player of all time", Ben Shapiro would drag out his footstool and shake your hand.

My intent in that joke wasn't to clown you. That said, I got your point and agree with it.

If you'll forgive a bit of a narcissistic aside... I think one difference between us is I'm not super focused on fairness when I discuss things with other people. I mean, I have my sense of what is fair and I use that as a compass, but I find that most people aren't very interested in what I find fair. So either conversation goes nowhere or I find myself painfully trying to cram my vision into their ethical framework which I'm simultaneously guessing at. Instead, what I do think and talk about more is suffering - especially suffering that serves no end that I find valuable. Since I'm new here, I want to be clear: I think white supremacy is the cause of a tremendous amount of suffering and serves no end that I can see any value in.

I have a mother who constantly reminds me that life isn't fair. This wasn't so I'd adopt a fatalistic cynicism: she encouraged me to advocate and act for justice. She did this so I'd understand and be comfortable that despite my best efforts, the world would remain unfair. Despair is a hell of a drug.

The clear caveat is that if Person A has $1 and Person B has $2, giving them each one dollar hasn't changed the absolute difference between the two - but it would change the relative difference.

I had a very similar reductive example all typed out and then thought, he'll tear through this like a bull through paper. Still, I think the example illustrates the idea of different measures of inequality. Here with two people it's relative vs. absolute, but in the more complex scenario of our society the number of reasonable measures is something like unbounded. I'm sure we agree that balancing between these notions can be tricky.

Anyway, I'm 100% on everything else you typed: Retribution is necessary, class doesn't cover all inequality, the judiciary is a mess and might be the worst legacy of the last 4 years, and calling debt relief socialism is internalizing Republican rhetoric. I look forward to barely disagreeing with you more.

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

Shrooms ain’t nothing but good times man. If you haven’t, you should

If in the right mind state, yup should be tried at least once in your life imo. But there needs to be better education about it. can’t just go into it unprepared or thinking it’s like bud. that’s how folks go on bad trips

 

[IATT]

 

[stuntman mike]

you ever sit back and think how life is just easy now? Like compared to the ice smoking days?

nowadays, i’m married and we have two kids. even with all of that, it’s a snap not having to plot my hustle 24-7.

 

[stuntman mike]

I would have hated it if you ended up on TLC, getting hemmed up by Dog the Bounty Hunter.

lol i’ve never had to deal with him personally but i know a few people that he took down. beth threatened me over the phone once and i laughed and hung up on her.

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

Is nobody going to talk about the most dangerous drug of all?

I heard that girl got so goofed up on Columbian hoppers that she wound up in Vegas, eating dog food and dancing topless.

 

[dacomeup]

If in the right mind state, yup should be tried at least once in your life imo. But there needs to be better education about it. can’t just go into it unprepared or thinking it’s like bud. that’s how folks go on bad trips

Need to hear more about this. How can you go in unprepared?

 

[mplsdunk]

Just don’t eat too much. That’s no fun.

it’s not like the movies where you’ll be seeing all sorts of crazy stuff.

stuff might look a little brighter or different but that’s about it. You’ll be laughing at some dumb **** though having a good time.

 

[Mark Antony]

Funny I was listening to this earlier then came here.

Not really into hard drugs like that but when I was in the hospital they gave me some valium and man, I understood.

 

[dmbrhs]

Just don’t eat too much. That’s no fun.

it’s not like the movies where you’ll be seeing all sorts of crazy stuff.

stuff might look a little brighter or different but that’s about it. You’ll be laughing at some dumb **** though having a good time.

The one time I did shrooms, really the only effect was that every color was more vibrant and kind of jumping out at my face. I wasn't seeing anything that wasn't actually there, though.

 

[dmbrhs]

Funny I was listening to this earlier then came here.

Not really into hard drugs like that but when I was in the hospital they gave me some valium and man, I understood.

I took two valium before going in for my wisdom teeth removal. I barely remember it, but I do recall basically floating into the oral surgeon's office. That stuff is no joke.

 

[dacomeup]

Funny I was listening to this earlier then came here.

Not really into hard drugs like that but when I was in the hospital they gave me some valium and man, I understood.

It’s wild how these youngins pop perks all wild, but just off of having one on an empty stomach I completely get the addiction.

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

Need to hear more about this. How can you go in unprepared?

Cant go in thinking it’s like weed just stronger. Have to be mentally prepared to be high for 8-12 hours. I usually plan a few days or week ahead of time before I take them.
Be mentally prepared in a good headspace. You won’t be able to really control the trip and shrooms will magnifying your mental state. If somethings got you down or anxious your mind will circle back to that situation(s) often through out the trip and it kinda kills the experience.
Control the setting and have a trip sitter if you can. You want somewhere you are comfortable and safe. You don’t want to trip out in a public crowded space it’s not that type of drug unless you are a seasoned user and even still.

 

[Sharpshoeter13]

All these stories and experiences...

 

[rexanglorum]

Cant go in thinking it’s like weed just stronger. Have to be mentally prepared to be high for 8-12 hours. I usually plan a few days or week ahead of time before I take them.
Be mentally prepared in a good headspace. You won’t be able to really control the trip and shrooms will magnifying your mental state. If somethings got you down or anxious your mind will circle back to that situation(s) often through out the trip and it kinda kills the experience.
Control the setting and have a trip sitter if you can. You want somewhere you are comfortable and safe. You don’t want to trip out in a public crowded space it’s not that type of drug unless you are a seasoned user and even still.

All this.

I’d add, don’t take on a completely empty stomach. Eat a little bit but don’t take on a full stomach either.

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

Just don’t eat too much. That’s no fun.

it’s not like the movies where you’ll be seeing all sorts of crazy stuff.

stuff might look a little brighter or different but that’s about it. You’ll be laughing at some dumb **** though having a good time.

I do what they call heroic does (4 grams and up) and yes you will see all sorts of crazy stuff. Vividly remember looking out my window and the sky, moon and streets were pixelated like it was Minecraft. seeing kaleidoscopes and all that

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

All this.

I’d add, don’t take on a completely empty stomach. Eat a little bit but don’t take on a full stomach either.

If you want a good chance to get visuals (seeing crazy ****) take them on a empty stomach. Don’t eat 6-8 hours before taking them and do the lemon tek method of consumption (fresh squeezed lemon juice and grinded shrooms stir every 5 min for 20 min then chug that **** in one shot) you will have an insane trip

 

[biggie62]

Is nobody going to talk about the most dangerous drug of all?

You ain’t lying. I drink 10 oz of espresso during each week day in my flat white (24oz is the total size of the drink). I have my own fully automatic espresso machine because I realized how much I was spending at Starbucks and how even the cost or a 3k machine pays itself off within about a year with the amount of coffee I drink.

Funny thing is you’d think I would be addicted to caffeine right? When I don’t work, vacations, and during the weekends I never drink any caffeine and I get no headaches or anything of that sort.

 

[swendro]

I've only ever eaten them straight up.

They are vile. Worth it though.

Next time I'm going to do that.

 

[dmbrhs]

All these stories and experiences...

Better pray she ain't sweating, because cocaine is quite water soluble.

 

[IATT]

 

[boris]

You ain’t lying. I drink 10 oz of espresso during each week day in my flat white (24oz is the total size of the drink). I have my own fully automatic espresso machine because I realized how much I was spending at Starbucks and how even the cost or a 3k machine pays itself off within about a year with the amount of coffee I drink.

Funny thing is you’d think I would be addicted to caffeine right? When I don’t work, vacations, and during the weekends I never drink any caffeine and I get no headaches or anything of that sort.

Holy ****. I was drinking probably 500 mg of caffeine a day at my peak, but 10 oz of espresso is a **** ton.

 

[mplsdunk]

I stay eating food probably why I never see anything.

I do exactly the opposite of what you’re supposed to do, this bar in my neighborhood is the trip out bar. Eat shrooms and go play big buck hunter for a couple hours

Then you go have a bonfire.

don’t be in public until you’re used to them though.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[mister friendly]

I’am ready for more woman politicians.

Kamala! AOC, MTG, Boerbert. I like it.

I want to the Republicans to run a Conservative Woman.