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Happy New Years Poltical Brehs and Brehettes
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Happy New Years Poltical Brehs and Brehettes
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Happy Progressive New Year
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Happy New Year!
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Part of me is like damn she is tweeting like this and a member of Congress….. Then I remember this is the United States in 2022. So it’s both tame and justified compared to what elected Republicans are saying online.
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In 2022, I am resolving to accuse anyone, who is also left wing but in a slight disagreement with me, of being a troll, gratuitously contrarian, deeply uninformed, hypocritical, blinded by privilege, and secretly in league with the right.
This thread has been far too genial these last few years.
This thread has been far too genial these last few years.
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Dude finally figured out how to reverse sear in 2022 and lost his mind
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That bar is too high of a bar considering that there is a process to weaponize speech, and it almost never starts with explicit calls to violence. Someone who wants others to be hurt because of their identity doesn't ever need to be explicit about promoting violence towards that demographic. That's why hate speech is a thing.
What kind of dissent is being opposed? All of it, or the kind of dissent that demonizes and dehumanizes the subject? Can we agree that there are degrees to dissent, from "let's agree to disagree" to "let's eliminate those who disagree?"
You asked if distributing a book can be considered violent, and I asked you what your thoughts were on how the German public perceived the Jewish population after buying and reading those books that advocated dealing with the Jews. I don't know how that constitutes an escalation.
Now, I don't agree with a ban on those books (for the same reason I think confederate statues belong in museums - historical purposes), but I won't pretend that the promotion of those books/statues as politically and historically accurate is harmless because they're just words on paper.
It is.
When the principle of free speech can be used to kill free speech, one has to separate the scenarios where the application of the principle doesn't eliminate it from the scenarios where the principle cannibalizes itself, if they care about preserving free speech.
Here, the harm can be measured and is not difficult to pin down. Because of that, I fail to see the hypocrisy in staying silent when someone decides to burn his books vs speaking up when the state decides which books you should have access to.
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This is an American public intellectual for conservatives and I am not being facetious.
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if Americans realized we are workers before consumers that would be great.
“Missing work for 10 days” the only problem is it’s unpaid.
“Missing work for 10 days” the only problem is it’s unpaid.
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Trying to show off the yams, huh Michelle? Lol
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Never before has a single video so perfectly summed up NY
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She how happy she looks
mplsdunk
. You really she wants to leave this bliss to beg Joe Rogan listening white folk to not walk off the cliff.
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She how happy she looks
I’ll be honest, she looks happy and like she’s ready to come out and tell the world she’s running for president in 2024.
Obama is amping her up too since she’s a little drunk.
“Run for president Michelle, I told Biden not to and he did anyways. In 2024 it’s your turn.”
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We the black delegation would like to offer delk, Kanye, Candice, condoleeza and any other black regular on fox news for
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imo This only make sense in like between bong rips in a freshman dorm thought experiment vacuum.
in actual practice creating exceptions for principles just lead to them being abused by the most mendiacious people in socitey.
hate speech is a thing but if it isn't specifically and narrowly defined it's just a tool to stifle dissent.
cultural conservatives justified their censoriousness by a desire to protect society from xyz social ill. Im very skeptical of these kind of arguments.
I don't believe cultural conservatives bank shot arguments about gay marriage leading to the end liberal democracy
and I also don't believe in some progressive bank shot arguments that xyz cultural content they don't like is going to lead to the murder wave again xyz marginalized group.
I think legitimate dissent is being suppressed
because it's sidestepping the original example, because easier to substitute nasizm.
this is my point, it's easier to brush ideas you don't like under the umbrella of hate speech to justify their suppression.
im not describing a polemic calling for the genocide of jewish people,
an organization of booksellers is calling the distribution of book, literal violence
a book, reviewed by many reputable outlets positively and negatively.
I don't think that speaks to a culture of free expression
we agree, bans on books are bad and words on paper aren't always harmless.
it's just for me the harm needs to be really acute and really really really clear for me to countenance suppression.
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She how happy she looks
Rogan already endorsed her apparently.
Alex Jones gunna have a heart attack when the pod drops.
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“The social network”…..is one of the biggest propaganda films of recent memory.
The way those tech bros laundered their image, in the early 10s, through media (they bought/created/collaborated) and tv is wild. They really just old school texas oil good ole boys…in Silicon Valley some decades later
The way those tech bros laundered their image, in the early 10s, through media (they bought/created/collaborated) and tv is wild. They really just old school texas oil good ole boys…in Silicon Valley some decades later
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